Unknown group claims responsibility for Fallujah killings

[NNN0LHI]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040401/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_us_fallujah_claim&cid=1514&ncid=1480

FALLUJAH, Iraq (AFP) - A previously unknown group claimed the gruesome killing of four US contractors in Fallujah, western Iraq (news - web sites), in revenge for Israel's assassination of Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin.

"This is a gift from the people of Fallujah to the people of Palestine and the family of Sheikh Ahmed Yassin who was assassinated by the criminal Zionists," said in the statement from the "Brigades of Martyr Ahmed Yassin."


"We advise the US forces to withdraw from Iraq and we advise the families of the American soldiers and the contractors not to come to Iraq," said the statement obtained by AFP.


The statement, entitled "Fallujah, the graveyard of the Americans," claimed the group's fighters killed "members of the Central Intelligence Agency (news - web sites) and the Zionist Mossad," referring to Israel's intelligence agency.

more

[Mistress Quickly]

1. So it doesn't have to do with the occupation

but with Isreali's murder of Yassin.

We live in a crazy world.

[The Stranger]

6. They seem to be claiming that it has to do with both.

Rather than one or the other.

[Aidoneus]

8. the occupations of Iraq & Palestine are linked

in many ways. Palestine is very dear to the hearts of many in the region, including the Iraqi resistance movements.

[adriennui]

13. palestine is dear to corrupt government hearts

because it diverts from the real problems in the region which is a very wealthy minority ruling a vast, superstitious and uneducated populace.

it's so much easier to blame 6 million israelis just listen to the shrill call to violence by some of these demagogic mullahs. why don't they turn their vitriol to the faux leaders of their countries.

[The Stranger]

17. The occupations are becoming very similar. Military occupation is illegal.

The "real problems in the region" were the result of the policies of the current occupiers (U.S.) in decades past. Remember, the U.S. supported Saddam Hussein.

[FlemingsGhost]

23. LOL... you're talking about Palestine, right?

"because it diverts from the real problems in the region which is a very wealthy minority ruling a vast, superstitious and uneducated populace."

Careful, you are hitting way too close to home:

Let me show you what I mean:

"it's so much easier to blame (Muslims) just listen to the shrill call to violence by some of these (Christian fundamentalists) why don't they turn their vitriol to the faux leaders of their countries."

What fun!

(on edit: typo)

[kainah]

28. and let's not forget

that Philip Zelikow, former Bush aide and now 9/11 Commission Executive Director, told a gathering in late 2002 that we were invading Iraq because of Israel.

They are very closely connected in all minds, but those of most Americans. Interesting to me that I have been stuck in "major media" TV hell all day and this is the first I've seen this. The cable networks have totally ignored this, although the attacks in Fallujah are still big news. Not surprising but always interesting to see how their filters bend to suit the situation.

[jpak]

2. Mubarak warned us

"Invade Iraq and you will create 100 Bin Ladens."

[daleo]

3. No evidence here

Anyone can claim anything. Various groups, with various agendas, may want to link this to the situation in Palestine. Had the Bush administration not chosen to invade Iraq, which posed no threat, none of this would have happened.

[keithyboy]

4. Oh, you must be wrong. The Israeli/Palestinian issue has no bearing on

the attacks around the world against Americans. How can you say that?
Are you kidding? You must be. Didn't your leader tell you that they hate us for our freedoms? Wise up! (end of sarcasm)

[saigon68]

5. They looked like kids throwing rocks

I guess a couple them dumped gas on the mercenaries and set them on fire.

No police anywhere though

[DrWeird]

10. No, there were Iraqi police there.

They were helping with the festivities.

[saigon68]

12. No shit.

I guess we haven't won the hearts and minds. Although there was some Brig General asshole on TV just saying, they were going back to that town to kick ass. Meanwhile Charlie, has hidden his stuff and is just hanging out--- when the inevitable return happens. "Bad Guys" haven't seen them --- No one has seen or heard anything.

Seen it before, in Saigon (the Queen of Asia) Ca: 1968

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

15. You are damn skippy there.... Saigon all over again

The police WERE the crowd, I bet.

[willat]

18. Interesting that

you refer to the General as an "asshole", I wonder what you think of the attackers?

[Zhade]

19. What, should he feel sorry for the fallen war profiteers?

I'm not happy that ANYONE died, because we shouldn't even be in Iraq. But I for one am not going to cry over the deaths of mercenaries aiding in the illegal military occupation of a country that never posed us a threat.

They don't want to get killed, they should leave the fucking country. They're going to end up leaving one day - the only question is, will it be by choice, or will they be forced out again like in Viet Nam?

[willat]

20. I Guess You're Right...

What were they thinking, helping to deliver food to that town? They deserved to die. Free food, at that!

Use a little logic. Who would want to stop a humanitarian food delivery to the town?

[Just Me]

21. The bombs that charred their children's bodies didn't discriminate,...

,...so, I guess that they no longer discriminate either.

It is another very sad day in hell.

Who delivered that provocation that creates such hell?

[willat]

24. So...

What is the point? Are you saying that it is not necessary to punish those responsible, just anyone from the right nationality?

[not systems]

22. I'm sure they were on their way to the nearest orphanage.

NOT.

[Zhade]

25. Yes, that's exactly what I said.

:eyes:

Maybe you could use a class in reading comprehension. Your straw man is showing.

Let's face it - if b*sh and his fellow traitors had not illegally invaded Iraq on the basis of lies for the purpose of war profiteering, this would not have happened.

Use a little logic, indeed.

[willat]

26. Nice

I'm finished, my position is clear and so is yours. Despicable.

[saigon68]

30. What happened to the respect

For the person on the other side of a debate?

[NickB79]

29. Free food, eh?

I hear that's the primary role of mercenaries in battles, food delivery to starving children. Oh, and bringing teddy bears and chocolates too. Doesn't everyone else use the words "mercenary" and "saint" interchangibly, since they mean the same thing, right?

"Who would want to stop a humanitarian food delivery to the town?"

The US military (and US-trained mercenaries) are not trained to do humanitarian efforts. Thats what the UN is trained to do. And surprise, surprise, who's keeping the UN out of Iraq? Why would Bush want to stop UN humanitarian food deliveries? If we really cared about helping the Iraqi people we so kindly bombed back to the Stone Age, we'd have the place crawling with UN aid workers, not 18-25 yr olds with automatic weapons.

[Turbineguy]

7. Maybe they think Freedom

means having an Asswipe for a president.

[0007]

9. Thanx for bringing me back to earth sonny, I completely lost my head

:bounce:
:toast:

[captain jack]

11. When will they suit you?

American citizens ,yet, have no idea what life is like for anyone living in present day Iraq. What you're told means so much less than actually being on what would be considered by most in this world, as the wrong side(Who decided?). I believe that if this country were being occupied by anyone that decided for you or against your way of life, your religon, family, etc., that you would retailiate(READ YOUR HISTORY).

Obviously I could get into detail but I think some can comprehend what I'm saying. I would retaliate and I would be called by most in the world a terrorist rebel that wants to destroy everything thats right in the world and so would most of you (AGAIN READ YOUR HISTORY). Though that would be far from the truth, I would, fight for my right to decide for me and my culture.

In a country where millions of Native Americans were murdered and slavery existed and racism is so promenant because the oppressors thought and think it was somehow right by god, I simply find it too easy for a people with that kind of history, knowledge and present prejudices to look at a part of the world and not see what fighting to maintain your culture looks like, right or wrong in your eyes. You don't have to live through it and most can't see injustice from the bright side of the road. Iraq is surely not the first country that did not want to be taken over or converted to look better in the eyes of it's occupiers.

[Just Me]

16. Welcome, Captain!!!

:hi:

I acknowledge your commitment to noting the "other side of the coin", so to speak. :bounce:

Standing in the shoes of others seems a rare trait these days, huh. Probably has something to do with the possibility that we Americans are not nearly as in charge of our own lives as we believe, being unduly influenced by an inaccurate media and biased leadership.

[The_Casual_Observer]

14. bush & co don't seem to be calling them "dead enders"

anymore. Instead it seems to be "insurgents" What happened?

[Gin]

27. If they were protecting a convoy delivering food...where was the convoy?

I heard they took a wrong turn because the Marines closed off the regular road...and that the city was under patrol by the Iraqi police...it's too dangerous for us to be there.

With the retaliation...more will die on both sides.