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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:55 AM
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Budapest Experiences A New Wave of Hate
Source: Spiegel

Budapest survived fascism and communism and blossomed after the fall of the Iron Curtain. Now the Hungarian capital is experiencing a rebirth of anti-Semitism. The far-right Jobbik party is part of the government and Jews are being openly intimidated.

On May 14, 2010, Gábor Vona, the chairman of Jobbik, was about to make an appearance at the Hungarian parliament, whose seat is probably the world's most beautiful parliament building, a domed, neo-Gothic structure protected by bronze lions. Everyone was concerned that Vona would appear dressed in a fascist uniform from the past. As it happened, he showed up in a black suit, to the relief of many in the audience. But shortly before the swearing-in ceremony, the radical right-wing politician threw off his jacket to reveal a vest reminiscent of the uniforms of the Arrow Cross Party. Germany's Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung described it as "sort of a Nazi outfit."

It is difficult to meet any of the leaders of the radical right-wing party Jobbik, the Movement for a Better Hungary. Jobbik generally views international journalists as its enemies. Zsolt Varkonyi, 54, manager of the Jobbik election campaign in April, finally agreed to speak with SPIEGEL. The meeting took place at Deryne, a restaurant in Buda catering to a hip, multi-ethnic crowd. As a greeting, Varkonyi says: "Well, have you already met with all of your liberal contacts? Are you finished with the Jewish mafia?"

With his hair combed back and his rimless glasses, he looks like an aging model pupil. Varkonyi, who is from an old aristocratic Hungarian family, studied film and marketing in Sweden and the United States, and he has a degree from a college in Cleveland. But his native Hungary was always in his heart. The self-proclaimed "fierce patriot" explains the Jobbik philosophy. It's a crude blend of inferiority complex and megalomania, coupled with a clear set of bogeymen, including the Jews, Gypsies, globalization, the European Union and the International Monetary Fund.

Read more: http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,722880,00.html



"Jobbik, The Movement for a Better Hungary is a Hungarian political party with a strong commitment to nationalism. Jobbik has been accused by its political opponents and some Western press outlets of being fascist and anti-Semitic party. The party has strenuously denied these allegations as being either politically motivated or simply false. The party describes itself as a principled, conservative and radically patriotic Christian party, whose fundamental purpose is the protection of Hungarian values and interests."

"Besides its declarations regarded as anti-ziganist by the party’s critics, some members brought back the use of the term gipsy crime which was in official use before the 1990s by the authorities. Gipsy crime in this sense is used to refer to criminal acts typically attributed to members of the Romani community."

"The party denies being anti-Semitic, homophobic, or racist in any way, dismissing such criticisms as the "favourite topics" of an "ignorant and misled" European Union. Even so, the movement has been accused of playing on those fears. Jobbik has also been linked to homophobic incidents in Budapest. In London on 16 May 2008 the delegation of Jobbik's Committee of Foreign Affairs met Nick Griffin, chairman of the British National Party. They discussed cooperation between the two parties, and the elections for the European Parliament."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobbik#Policy_position

"Liberal market economy and global capitalism are twins, they presuppose one other. If one of them comes to an end the other becomes meaningless. Competition based economy--in other words, economy based on unregulated capital--has gone bankrupt, in front of our very eyes that in the mean time, destroyed the social fabric of society; in the wake of destruction, one thing has remained for people, the possibility to sacrifice themselves on the altar of multinational corporations.

Today, we need Eco-Social National Economy. The phrase perhaps a bit crooked but in time, we might find a better one, but now the important thing is to understand its meaning. The profit expectations of multinational corporations cannot be maintained any longer; the idea of sustainable grow is a mirage. With the gradual depletion of natural resources better, we get use to the sustainable decrease of economic activity, which means controlling the loot of international corporations and began a shift from corporation based to community oriented economic activity. Economy needs an environment fitting to human needs (Eco) that can provide social space for dignified existence (Social) and work in the interest of the Hungarian nation (National). This is what Eco-Social National Economy means."

http://www.jobbik.com/hungary/3103.html
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:32 AM
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1. while researching this i came across a stormfront post....
i`m sending the post to your mail box.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:33 AM
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2. so someone at stormfront reads our site....
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:37 AM
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3. Can't say I'm surprised, and Austrians similarly tenuous.
We must be ever vigilant, but, I guess, nothing's new here.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:53 AM
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4. If we did not have blacks and Latinos, I believe the teabaggers would hate the Jews. Maybe they do.
The only other ethnic group in Hungary that could possibly be hated are the Roma, but they are not rich, so they can't accuse them of stealing from the "real" Magyars, but oh wait! They do that, because the Roma are considered the "welfare queens" of Hungary. They hate the Jews for being rich, and the Roma for being poor. Only the Magyars are just right I guess. These rightwingers make me sick no matter what language they speak.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 12:43 PM
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9. Oh, they definitely do
Plenty on the right and way too many on the left are still fans of hating on the Jews for this that and the other thing.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:30 PM
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11. My guess is mostly for killing Jesus (on the right). nt
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:40 PM
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12. Mix of that, generic "omgheresy!" and historical anti-semitism, yeah
Some more straightforward "they're not us!" type stuff too, like is directed at just about every other group that isn't a WASP.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:46 PM
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14. Hate of the "other". Yep. nt
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 06:48 AM
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20. I'm not sure this really flies
Was it really so long ago that many in the anti-Iraq war movement were screaming it was a war waged by American neocons on behalf of Israel?

It was a disgusting episode and I'm glad it's over because it made it hard to support some of the protests. Take a trip over to our own Israel/Palestine forum some time. Some here make you wonder if the Jews are allowed to have their own country and if the same rules of war apply to people trying to kill them as supposedly apply to Israel.

How can the RW be puppets of Jews and anti-semitic at the same time?

Then one minute I see Christians favoring Israel over some Apocalyptic fantasy then they're supposed to hate Jews for being Christ-killers.

And most ironic of all this very string of sub-threads says, "It's wrong to go around claiming them Jews do this or that and that's what them Christians do!"
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bos1 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 10:06 AM
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5. anti-Gypsy DUers, will you say the same about Jews now?
Come on, you who apologize for the current pogroms against Gypsies in Europe -- now's the time to step up and say the same things about what's happening in this article. Say "Many, not all, Jews are criminals" and "Jews are foreigners at heart" and "Jews refuse to blend into society" and all the other stereotypical anti-Gypsy statement we here all the time.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 10:50 AM
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6. "Liberal market economy and global capitalism are twins,''
this reality is skewing everything -- it's the single most important battle we face.

it underpins the modern rise of racism, nationalism, wage problems --
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:25 AM
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7. Hungary has not had to confront its love affair with Fascism during
WWII. It went from Nazi-allied to satellite of the Soviet Union. In the latter role Hungary received admiration for the failed revolution in the 50's, but they have never accounted for their enthusiastic embrace of Fascism. The anti-Roma and antisemetic noises are the same heard in the 1930's. Since they never paid a price, they have little reason to reject these ideas this time around.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 12:39 PM
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8. Highly tangential to the OP, but the first article's right about the building:

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 01:02 PM
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10. Anti-Semitic AND anti-liberal.
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 01:04 PM by No Elephants
"As a greeting, Varkonyi says: "Well, have you already met with all of your liberal contacts? Are you finished with the Jewish mafia?"

In the U.S. South, in the 1950s, 60s and 70s, it was anti-liberal and anti-African Americans.

In the U.S. now, it's anti-liberal and anti-gay and anti-women's right to decide about their own bodies.

The common elements are anti-liberal and bigot.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:43 PM
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13. a rebirth of anti-Semitism? I am SHOCKED, shocked, I tells ya!
Oh wait, no I am not.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:10 PM
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15. Wouldn't it have to at least die first before being reborn? (nt)
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:14 PM
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16. Technically, I suppose. I guess "uptick" or "gross growth" would have been better. n/t
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:22 PM
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17. Metastasis, maybe. (nt)
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:34 PM
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18. Even better! Makes it sound like the disease it is! n/t
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 06:20 AM
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19. YouTube video: "Fascists on the Rise - Hungary"
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