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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 05:52 PM
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Judge Rejects Govt. DADT Stay
Edited on Mon Oct-18-10 05:54 PM by JackBeck
Source: The Advocate

Judge Skeptical of Govt. Arguments
By Andrew Harmon

U.S district judge Virginia A. Phillips issued a tentative ruling Monday rejecting the government’s request for a stay in the injunction against “don’t ask, don’t tell" but will issue a formal ruling by late Monday afternoon or Tuesday morning.

During the 25-minute hearing, Phillips wasted no time in rejecting the government's arguments that barring dadt immediately would be an undue burden on the military and called the justice department's declarations to the court both vague and insufficient.

Assistant U.S attorney Paul Freeborne asked the court for a five day administrative stay so it can pursue an appeal of the injunction to the U.S. court of appeals for the ninth circuit.

Story developing.

Read more: http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/10/18/Judge_Phillips_Rejects_Government_DADT_Stay/
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 05:58 PM
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1. Not really a surprise.
A stay of a court order is usually done to prevent something from happening before the appeal has a chance to be heard. In this case, the court order itself prevents something from happening.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 05:59 PM
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2. "undue burden on the military"
hogwash! baloney!
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 06:15 PM
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3. The freakin' DOJ just won't give up
They lose again, and now they want to try again for a stay? Just a "five-day" administrative stay!?
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 06:24 PM
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4. Her final official ruling won't be until later today or tomorrow. n/t
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:21 PM
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5. Love this judge
and how she's standing up for equality.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:10 PM
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6. The term "Department of Justice" seems to be more and more of a misnomer.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:57 PM
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7. Some one please explain why the administration is fighting so hard to deny human rights
to the gay community?
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:03 PM
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8. 3-D chess
...or something like that
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:07 PM
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9. Wont the SCOTUS rule that it's Constitutional? nm
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:22 PM
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10. I will, reluctantly.
The DOJ has a mandate to represent the Government in legal cases.
Therefore, when the Gov. is sued, even for a law that is years old, the current DOJ must go to court.

Tho since they managed to screw up and let a lot of crooked politicians and slimy corporations go free, you would think they could screw up in our favor once in a while.

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:34 PM
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12. Seems to me if they just stalled for years it would be best. nm
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 04:30 AM
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14. They don't have a mandate to appeal.
While an argument can be made for why they should appeal, they aren't required to do so. The DOJ already defended the law and lost. They've done their job.
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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 08:40 AM
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16. Incorrect
Presidents in the past, including Clinton, have refused to defend laws that they deem are unconstitutional, as Obama could do here. There's really no excuse for this.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 12:15 AM
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13. because they are homophobic?
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 04:37 AM
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15. Haven't you heard?
It's just one song a two minute prayer a poor choice of words one appeal.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:34 PM
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11. Brilliantly failing.
I hope the DoJ takes this all the way to *failing* to present any valid arguments to the Supreme Court, and then stare decisis kicks in and settles the issue for at least 15-20 (or more) years.

In 100 years, people will wonder what the heck the fuss was all about.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 10:49 AM
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17. I have no confidence in the SCOTUS. If he does appeal, DADT is dead.
Then the supporters would have the action and start over.
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