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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 10:21 PM
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AP sources: Most US troops, families say gays OK
Source: Associated Press

An internal Pentagon study has found that most U.S. troops and their families don't care whether gays are allowed to serve openly and think the policy of "don't ask, don't tell" could be done away with, according to officials familiar with its findings.

The survey results were expected to be used by gay rights advocates to bolster their argument that the 1993 law on gays could be repealed immediately with little harm done to the military. But the survey also was expected to reveal challenges the services could face in overturning the long-held policy, including overcoming fierce opposition in some parts of the military even if they represent a minority.

Details on the survey results were still scarce Thursday, with the Pentagon declining to discuss the findings until after Dec. 1 when it rolls out its own plan for repeal.

The officials who disclosed the survey's findings spoke on condition of anonymity because the results had not been released. NBC News first reported the findings Thursday.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hL0KQWVaM2Ailu_837rxEQZDrCfQ?docId=6f73658b4500484780024d49dfc9d40b
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 10:49 PM
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1. Wow. How will the homophobes spin *that* one?
Looks like someone needs to act.

By the way, Johnnie, how's that "troop cohesion" bullshit of yours going to play now?
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 11:07 PM
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2. Because homophobic men are chickenhawks like Limbaugh, Rove, Hannity, O'Reilly & Beck.
Real men are not homophobic.

What's the underlying story here is how insulting chickenhawks like Limbaugh and gang are to our troops by saying they are afraid to shower with other gay troops. How the fuck would they know and how the fuck do they speak for our troops when they've never served.

Chickenhawks are homophobic. Our troops are not!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 11:17 PM
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 11:46 PM
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4. Where did you get those stats from and wtf is "GUT the military"
Searching the internet doesn't show my any numbers like the ones you are pulling out.

How is allowing gay servicemen and women "GUT the military"?

Doubt you will be here long enough to answer. Did you know we can search and read all your other posts?
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Celtic Raven Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 12:14 AM
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6. Here's a link to Rachel Maddow's segment on the DADT survey
from tonight:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/39902092#39902092

No transcript posted yet.

Don't remember hearing percentages mentioned, but he made it very clear that the majority surveyed just don't have a problem serving with openly gay troops.

I can't wait to see how the homophobes in the Pentagon try to twist this into what they want it to say about our military rather than what it actually says.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 12:18 AM
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7. another link to GD topic and the place linked there
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Celtic Raven Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 12:33 AM
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8. Thanks. Didn't see it.
And thanks for the welcome.

:hi:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 12:06 AM
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5. That is quite right. Most means most. Take a hike.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 12:53 AM
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9. If 45% of our personnel can't handle serving with gay people
I'd hate to see how they handle al Qaida.

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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 01:27 AM
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10. would be a great thing.... every time the bright whites lose, an angel gets its wings
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 01:36 AM
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11. Recommended.
:kick:
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 02:33 AM
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12. Rec nt
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 04:51 AM
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13. Is there still a RW "Tim McVeigh" culture with in the US Army?
I don't know how to describe him. He was more militia oriented than white supremist.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 06:14 AM
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14. NBC News' Richard Engel first reported the findings
video at link
Gays In The Military Study: Most U.S. Troops, Families Say Gays OK

(snip)
NBC News' Richard Engel first reported the findings Thursday, and appeared that evening on "The Rachel Maddow Show."

WATCH: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/28/gay-military-acceptance-m_n_775753.html
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