Science Not Being Distorted, White House Aide Says

[kskiska]

…so stop saying that.

Saturday, April 3, 2004; Page A02

President Bush's chief science adviser fired back yesterday at a scientists' advocacy group that had accused the administration of distorting facts to support a conservative political agenda.

In a statement released with a 17-page, point-by-point rebuttal, John H. Marburger III, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, said the response aimed to "correct errors, distortions and misunderstandings" in the Feb. 18 report of the Washington-based Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS).

"The accusations in the document are inaccurate," Marburger wrote in the letter, which he sent with the report to several members of Congress. "In this administration, science strongly informs policy."

Marburger's rebuttal was issued at a time of increasing scrutiny of the Bush administration's relationship with science. The administration has for many months been under fire from critics alleging that officials have ignored certain scientific findings, changed Web sites, revised or eliminated wording in reports, and altered the makeup of advisory committees in ways that bowed to political priorities.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46283-2004Apr2.html

[gate of the sun]

1. and the economy is recovering too.

the skies are clearer, the water fresher and education is leaving no child behind.

[otohara]

2. Another We're Right - Rest of World Wrong

again - pathetic denial

[mike_c]

3. and the check is in the mail....

on edit:

I really have to add a small rant to this thread. I'm a working ecologist and I've watched the Bush administration ignore decades of sound scientific progress in the Pacific Northwest (particularly NorCal in my case) and systematically dismantle soil, water, habitat, endangered species, and forest protections. IMO, Bush has never met a scientist that he trusts.

[Eye and Monkey]

5. "Bush has never met a scientist that he trusts" - you're forgetting.

So-called "creation science" is probably right up his alley.

I can and do echo your rant. BushCo has corrupted the uses of my profession, too.

[Mel]

11. When asked about Creation Science

*Bush said 'the jury was still out on that' so yes, it's right up his alley.

The dirty "L" word is LIARS! Not Liberals.
Our White House is full of Flying Monkey-Right LIARS!

[rfkrocks]

4. Sigh! Even science is an "informer" in Bush world

Excuse me but I trust 20 Nobel Laureates over the Yale legacy gentleman's "c" club in the white house

[Gman]

6. The Clinton's Penis defense

• The UCS said that the administration has been trying to weaken the Endangered Species Act. Marburger responded that the current situation dates to the Clinton administration.

[DulceDecorum]

7. Muslims really did suspend the laws of physics

I swear they did.
Look, would I lie to you?

[ixion]

9. exactly

nice one, DD. :hi:

[nodehopper]

8. f*cking liars.

This pisses me off almost more than anything else. They are not just screwing other nations, or its current citizens. They are apocalyptically screwing the planet.

[DulceDecorum]

15. It is the LAW of G-d and the State.

The U.S. Congress officially recognized the Noahide Laws in legislation which was passed by both houses. Congress and the President of the United States, George Bush, indicated in Public Law 102-14, 102nd Congress, that the United States of America was founded upon the Seven Universal Laws of Noah, and that these Laws have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization. They also acknowledged that the Seven Laws of Noah are the foundation upon which civilization stands and that recent weakening of these principles threaten the fabric of civilized society, and that justified preoccupation in educating the Citizens of the United States of America and future generations is needed. For this purpose, this Public Law designated March 26, 1991 as Education Day, U.S.A.

Is Bush preparing for the Rapture?
http://www.unknownnews.net/apocalypsenow.html

Our generation, as the Lubavitcher Rebbe has repeatedly declared, is the last generation of exile and darkness, and the first generation of Moshiach (the Messiah) and the Redemption. All of us -- Jews and Noachides -- have an urgent responsibility to transform the world immediately in order to bring Moshiach, and this involves going well beyond the minimum of the Law.
<snip>
Right now, a supplemental daily home-schooling Torah program is being developed and used to teach Noachide children. All parents must rapidly get involved, teaching their children at least one hour per day (after school, for example) according to this program. As the number of participating families grows, it will soon be possible to organize full-time Noachide chedarim (day schools for grade-school children) in many communities. THIS APPROACH TO EDUCATION, based on the three-thousand-year-old Jewish yeshiva system, DRASTICALLY MINIMIZES SECULAR STUDIES (MATH, SCIENCE, HISTORY, ENGLISH, SOCIAL STUDIES, COMPUTERS, AND OTHER TECHNICAL STUDIES) in favor of total immersion in Torah, the Word of G-d. This includes written Torah, oral Torah, halacha (religious law), Hebrew language, etc.; THIS PHILOSPHY OF EDUCATION IS FUNDAMENTALLY OPPOSITE THE ONE USED IN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND IN STANDARD HOME-SCHOOLING PROGRAMS.
http://www.noahide.com/minimum.htm

9. The Children of Noah are responsible for knowledge of the Seven Universal Laws, and therefore one does not have to be warned that he is committing a transgression in order to be accused in a court of law.<6>
http://www.moshiach.com/action/morality/courts_of_law.php

1. With respect to God's commandments, all of humanity is divided into two general classifications: the Children of Israel and the Children of Noah.
2. The Children of Israel are the Jews, the descendants of the Patriarch Jacob. They are commanded to fulfill the 613 Commandments of the Torah.
3. The Children of Noah comprise the seventy original nations of the world and their branches. They are commanded concerning the Seven Universal Laws, also known as the Seven Laws of the Children of Noah or the Seven Noahide Laws.<1> These Seven Universal Laws pertain to idolatry, blasphemy, murder, theft, sexual relations, eating the limb of a living animal, and establishing courts of law.
http://www.moshiach.com/action/morality/seven_laws.php

Much much more at:
http://www.ukar.org/gore10.html

[NMDemDist2]

18. Well of course he's settingup the rapture

Hubby and I have been saying for years the bushies are doing everything they can to start armegeddon DUH

[KittyWampus]

10. UGH!

Sometimes these people make me want to scream.

[pinniped]

12. Shutup, your repuke mind tricks only work on repukes.

nt

[gmoney]

13. "In this administration, science FICTION strongly informs policy."

When we're all living on the moon, there won't be any problem with global warming, right?

[Eye and Monkey]

14. Mars. BushCo wants to go to Mars. Want to see the future? (photo)

http://www.bartcop.com/1283.htm

[Hekate]

16. Naaah. The Earth is really flat...

and the Sun revolves around Bush. Simple minds, simple answers.

Hekate

[aquart]

17. And what part of this did the idiot think we'd buy?

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

19. The science advisor was one of the last appointed

I remember thinking it strange that the position hadn't been filled after six months.

[truthisfreedom]

20. what makes sense here is that 60 scientists, 20 Nobel laureates, are wrong

...all wrong. we know that scientists are prone to error. after all, it's only science. and this one man, marburger, whose name means basically "mangle ground meat," has the ability to spin the opinions of 60 top scientists, including 20 Nobel laureates. i believe mr. mangleburger is attempting to rewrite the laws of physics, captain... the one about knowing everything everywhere at all times... just because the bush administration insists that it's so.

The UCS report gained extra attention because its release was accompanied by a supporting letter signed by more than 60 scientists, including 20 Nobel laureates. Although Marburger initially dismissed it as "a collection of more or less disconnected cases" -- and suggested that some scientists had simply had "their feathers ruffled" -- he also promised the detailed response that came yesterday.

[BiggJawn]

22. And a "C" grade drunken Frat Boy is right...

"Our minds are made up here at the WH. Please don't try to confuse us with facts..."

[Bob3]

21. It's just being ingnored.

Cause we don't like it - thinking makes our heads hurt and anyway Jesus is coming for sure so it doesn't matter what we do anyway and come on isn't it easier to do the math when Pi is 3?

pigs.

[WoodrowFan]

23. science informs policy?

and up is down, peace is war, etc., etc. Is there ANYTHING these guys won't lie about??

[kodi]

24. apparently millions of US scientists dont care if bush is a phillistine

and that is appalling.

as a scientist, i menton to my professional colleagues how bush is a creationist, doesn't believe in evolution, has no respect for scientific method or objectivity, doesn't believe facts that dont fit his politics.

and for 50% of these people it falls upon their deaf ears.

any scientist that votes for bush ought to rot in hell. he betrays the fundamental principle of science; the search for the truth of matters.

george bush is the worst american of my generation. were he a paid agent of a foreign, hostile power, he could not cripple america worse than he already has.

[xchrom]

25. marburger, like the rest of bushco

is too stupid for words.
did he think know one would notice -- 60 scientists, including 20 nobel laureates.
i can imagine there are some scientists out there writing letters that make an even bigger ass out of marburger as we type to each other here.

[leesa]

26. No. It's being discarded.

Instead we have christian fundie fantasyland.

[i_c_a_White_Ghost]

27. This Sunday's Times Magazine has a front page article

about shrubs 'dirty deeds' on the environment. But then again, they probably are 'lies' too Lol