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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 06:23 PM
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al-Jazeera: Baghdad a paradise for criminals, gun-runners and drug addicts
al-Jazeera.net tells us that things are worse off for ordinary people in Iraq's capital since we liberated them. Key grafs:

Crime and disorder thriving in Baghdad

Since the US-led invasion last year, the occupation authorities have overseen a burgeoning black market in the capital and a creeping criminalisation of Iraqi society.

Gangs now terrorise the city's residents in a spree of robberies and kidnappings.



Prof Abd Al-Sattar Jawad from Baghdad University says, "When the US came they simply let the criminals and the thieves get their hands on all this stuff. But this is backfiring on them now in a big way. They aren't doing enough - there aren't enough policemen on the streets."

He added: "The Americans said they would build a stable and democratic Iraq but if they let this situation continue, everyone will know these were hollow words."


Yeh, but they're better off without Saddam...
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realdeal22k Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 06:54 PM
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1. al-Jazeera.net tells us that things are worse off for ordinary people
Does al-Jazeera have a news branch office in the USA? Are they an unbiased and independent news org?
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 07:01 PM
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2. I know al jazeera has a news division here in the States as do
all international new services. I think that in terms of independence and lack of bias they are the FOX News of Qatar only much more reliable.
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realdeal22k Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 07:14 PM
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4. What channel are they on?
Cable or broadcast?
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 06:50 PM
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13. I put more trust in Al-Jazeera
than I do in the NY Times, CNN, FOX or *any* American media for that matter.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 07:06 PM
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3. What are they left to pursue?
US contractor are being paid big time,...and the people of this country are being left with a delivery of subsistence and no involvement in the building of their our lives.

The "might" is in power over all else that falls in its path.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 07:27 PM
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5. What? No war on drugs?
What will big pharma say about that?
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nonbelief Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 07:38 PM
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6. This is disgusting!
If the people currently in charge of Iraq can't control the situation I think the U.S should take over and restore order.

Oh....wait....
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 05:13 PM
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8. 7 more dead there today
The beat goes on
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 12:44 AM
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7. Fisk reported as much months ago.
The US brought anarchy to Iraq which has fostered conditions arguably worse than those under Saddam.

How's that for fucking up? To do worse than Saddam.
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 06:01 PM
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9. link?
link?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 06:32 PM
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10. Try this one:
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15&ItemID=5259

Things are getting worse, much worse in Iraq.
Yesterday's horrors proved that. Yet just a day earlier,
Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, America's deputy
director of military operations, assured us that there was only an "uptick" in violence
in Iraq.

Not a sudden wave of violence, mark you, not a down-to-earth increase, not even a
"spike" in violence - another of the general's favourite expressions. No, just a
teeny-weeny, ever-so small, innocent little "uptick". In fact, he said it was a "slight
uptick".

Our hands were numb, recording all this, so swiftly did General Kimmitt take us
through the little uptick.

A marine vehicle blown off the road near Fallujah, a marine killed, a second attack
with small-arms fire on the same troops, an attack on an Iraqi paramilitary recruiting
station on the 14th July Road, a soldier killed near Ramadi, two Britons hurt in Basra
violence, a suicide bombing against the home of the Hillah police chief, an Iraqi shot at
a checkpoint, US soldiers wounded in Mosul ... All this was just 17 hours before
Fallujah civilians dragged the cremated remains of a Westerner through the streets of
their city.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 06:35 PM
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12. Here is another, nice picture too:
Robert Fisk, can you tell us about the situation you found in Iraq?
I don't think I've ever seen a clearer example of an army that thought it was an army of liberation and has become an army of occupation. You get different
kinds of behaviour from the Americans. You got this very nice guy, Phil Cummings, who was a Rhode Island cop, very sensitive towards people, didn't
worry if people shouted at him. He remained smiling. He just said that 'if people throw rocks or stones at me, I give them candies'. There was another soldier
who went up to a middle aged man sitting on a seat and said, 'If you get out of that seat, I'll break your neck,' and there was quite a lot of language like that as
well. There were good guys as well as bad guys among the Americans as there always are in armies, but the people who I talked to, the sergeants and captains
and so on--most of them acknowledged that something had gone wrong, that this was not going to be good.

One guy said to me, 'every time we go down to the river'--he was talking about the river area in Fallujah which is a tributary of the Tigris--'it's like Somalia
down there. You always get shot at and stones thrown at us'. Some of the soldiers spoke very frankly about the situation in Baghdad. I heard twice, once
from a British Commonwealth diplomat and once from a fairly senior officer in what we now have to call the coalition, the Coalition Provisional Authority
(CPA), that Baghdad airport now comes under nightly sniper fire from the perimeter of the runway from Iraqis. Two of them told me that every time a
military aircraft comes in at night it's fired at. In fact some of the American pilots are now going back to the old Vietnamese tactic of corkscrewing down
tightly onto the runways from above rather than making the normal level flight approach across open countryside because they're shot at so much. So there is
a very serious problem of security.

The Americans still officially call them the remnants of Saddam or terrorists. But in fact, it is obviously an increase in the organised resistance and not just
people who were in Saddam's forces, or who were in the Ba'ath Party or the Saddam Fedayeen.

There is also increasing anger among the Shi'ite community, those who were most opposed to Saddam. I think what we're actually seeing is a
cross-fertilisation. Shi'ites who are disillusioned, who don't believe they have been liberated, who spent so long in Iran, and they don't like the Americans
anyway. Sunni Muslims who feel like they're threatened by the Shi'ites, former Saddam acolytes who've lost their jobs and found that their money has
stopped. And Kurds who are disaffected and are beginning to have contacts. That, of course, is the beginning of a real resistance movement and that's the
great danger for the Americans now.

http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/sr276/goodman.htm
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drscm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 06:34 PM
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11. But Rummy reminds us that this is just a wonderful sign
of Democracy and freedom.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 06:53 PM
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14. "criminals, gun-runners and drug addicts"=MERCENARIES
eom
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