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Newsjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:25 PM Original message |
Ted Turner urges global one-child policy to save planet |
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EmilyKent (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. Why does he say things like this? |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. It's a good way to get people thinking about it, and creating an emotional reaction of some kind. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Good luck with this idea with this Criminal |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
52. Oh, it's going to happen - at least the population reduction part. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #52 |
100. Exactly ... capitalism has only thrived because of exploitation of nature ....and |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
59. And it isn't practical because one child policy reduces worker ratios |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. Expand your mind... |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
98. The alternative for us is already "with us." They are our illegal immigrants. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 03:33 PM Response to Reply #59 |
101. A smaller new generation would be a positive ... for survival of the planet and |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
99. Since the 1960's...when was the last time you heard anyone discuss overpopulation????? |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. Maybe ted turner should run a proper news station, that could also help save the world. |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. He's got 5 children from 3 different wives... |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
22. Thanks, I HAD Wondered |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 07:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
27. My feelings exactly. |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
39. Great post. Thanks for that info. |
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gmoney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
48. Well, he really regrets 4 of them... |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
74. Yes, maybe start at one wife policy. |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #74 |
137. They wouldn't like that in Utah. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
102. Presume this is also advice for his children... Oops! think there are probably already.... |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. rw will never let this happen - they are pumping out as many kids as they can |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. They feel they are entitled (with their religious beliefs) and see no consequences for any one else. |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #6 |
42. Eazy-E is rumored to have fathered 70 children. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
5. What was on the menu at this luncheon? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. + |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
7. Dear Ted ... |
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timo (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-05-10 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
8. typical elitist ass munch |
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2QT2BSTR8 (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
10. Well my gay husband and I do not plan on having ANY kids.... |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 07:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
30. Maybe we can set up some type of carbon credits with straight couples who want more kids. |
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lepus (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
64. Keep trying. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
11. Ted Turner is to population control as Al Gore is to global warming. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
54. I suppose you are one of the "Gore should live in a mud hut" crowd....... |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Gore should live in a 2000 sq ft home w/o heated swimming pool |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
12. You gotta love the assholes that "have the answer". Just stop having babies. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:28 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. The best way; give more women in developing countries a good education |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 07:45 AM Response to Reply #15 |
28. So much word |
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WizardLeft62 (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
14. Totally Disagree with Ted Turner's Attitude Here |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:29 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. The mother of all famines will arrive very soon |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:35 AM Response to Original message |
17. Pretty much the same view as the RW as far as women are concerned |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:36 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. It has been shown that birth rate drops when women are educated and have more rights. |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:17 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. +1000 |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:28 AM Response to Original message |
20. why is this issue so offensive to most here? |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:35 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Any comments on another DU thread? |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
47. Thank you. I was beginning to worry there there was nobody here who care for the earth. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
71. +1000 |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
75. No One Wants to Be the Asshole and Say It Out Loud |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
82. It's offensive because it doesn't trump "my body, my choice". |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #82 |
129. +1 (n/t) |
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20score (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
89. Logical as always Duppers! Couldn't agree with you more. |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:02 AM Response to Original message |
23. I think it will happen. |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 07:57 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. exactly, Matilda. |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 07:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
80. Educate women - don't lock down their bodies. That creates a slave master mentality. (nt) |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 05:17 AM Response to Original message |
24. Well, let me put it this way |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 07:52 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. For serious |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:01 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. put any spin on it you like |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
25. it is a disaster in china and it will be for the world |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:19 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Pollution is a disaster in China. The one-child policy... |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
26. Doesn't matter. Global warming will do the reducing. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
63. Why? Global warming won't fix the problem |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Global warming will reduce the planet's carrying capacity by a few billion |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. I doubt it's going to be that bad |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #76 |
105. Farmland is dependent on far more than just latitude |
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soryang (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
35. Isn't he one of the largest landowners in the world? |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. and that is relevant how? |
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xor (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
37. one-child policies don't have to mean forced abortions or anything like that |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. yup |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
55. Punish the wrong people for having extra children (wrong=poor) |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
38. On a global scale? How does he figure that can be accomplished? |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
40. New World Order idiot. Easier for the elite to control the masses when there are less of us. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
97. No, the more of us, the easier it gets. |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
41. Which one of his five children is he going to unhave? nt |
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gmoney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Ted is 72... I'm guessing his youngest kid is probably at least 30 years old |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
43. 20 years from now, the same people attacking Turner's position here |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. It's easy to say once you've had your five kids. The policy is ineffective. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Well, I'm saying it as well and I have just one kid |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. Other alternative. |
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Devil_Fish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
136. Kinda like the Iraq war....... |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. I love the ex-smoker analogy! |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
84. Has he admitted that 4 of his kids were a mistake and he wishes he had never had them? |
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Devil_Fish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
135. population culling. You meen like Iraq and Afganistan? |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. +1000 |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
79. Again...it's not simply the rate of birth, it's the rate of consumption per capita.. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #79 |
107. But the Third World nations are industrializing rapidly |
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20score (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #43 |
90. How true! |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
49. while i dont think it should be law. its really not a bad idea/suggestion |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. agreed. nt. |
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social_critic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
61. it's a lousy idea, folks. It doesn't allow for enough people at work |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. If you consider only the future of America, sure |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. What it implies is that we need to completely rethink our economic system |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:40 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Mom Nature bats last... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:39 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. Facile, old paradigm "economics" |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Odd response from someone with your screen name. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. I did. |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Shouldn't you have had 2 wives and 0 children? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #87 |
112. 1 child is considered to be a net population loss. |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #112 |
131. Seems like if you were really devoted to the cause, you'd have zero children |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #61 |
111. Your protestations appear to beg the question |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #49 |
81. He's not talking voluntary, education based family planning. He's talking legislating women's bodies |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. I agree with all your points |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 01:46 AM Response to Reply #81 |
118. I know how we could make this work |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
57. I agree with Ted. It's a good idea as long as it is applied equally everywhere. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
65. Or, there's always the Logan's Run option |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
66. Ted and his Bilderberger friends want to reduce the world's population to 500 million |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
130. +1 (n/t) |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
69. One or LESS |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. Or move a couple of billion to another planet. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #69 |
85. Her body, your choice (nt) |
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20score (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
88. Good. I wish more people would wake up to the fact that over-population is our most pressing issue. |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 12:37 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. It may need to be addressed BUT ... |
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20score (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Of course. My comment was to the people who deny there's a problem. |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 12:57 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. +1000 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 03:39 PM Response to Reply #92 |
103. +1000% -- |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:08 PM Response to Reply #92 |
115. On your action recommendations, we agree! (n/t) |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 01:08 AM Response to Reply #88 |
95. Thank You!!! agree 1000% nt |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
94. Human overpopulation can be credited for the majority of our issues |
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The Flaming Red Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
96. Surely human beings should be able to breed like cock roaches |
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Godhumor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
104. You heard the man! Those of you without children better hurry up and have one! |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
106. I hope this puts to rest those who doubt the Bilderburger's intentions |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
108. Turner don't preach! He has 4 or more kids, I chose to have 0. n/t |
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harvey007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
109. He's just being Ted |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
110. Go back to sleep Ted, in case you haven't noticed, responsible |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
113. Which is more critical, collective or individual rights? |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 06:57 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. It's a scary thought for most people, to realize that some things trump indvidual rights |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. NOTHING trumps our constitutional rights. |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 08:09 AM Response to Reply #116 |
120. Did you even *read* his post before replying? |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. You're not making any sense to me. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 08:32 AM Response to Reply #116 |
122. Do you have a Constitutional right to reproduce? |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Yes. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #116 |
125. In effect you are telling us, "nothing trumps my imagination!!!" |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #125 |
127. If you don't want the U.S. Constitution honored ... |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 08:30 AM Response to Reply #114 |
121. The level of civilization implies the level of individual rights |
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Ginto (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #113 |
132. It's her body her choice until we decide that a different choice must be made for |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
117. I'd like to see Ted tell that to the Duggars |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
119. Childfree and happy |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
126. Sure Teddy, we'll just do a retroactive abortion on almost all of |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
128. I am completely, utterly, and one-thousand-percent in favor of this! |
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truckerb1968 (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
133. Kick. |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
134. "...the environmental stress on the Earth requires radical solutions..." |
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