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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 10:48 AM
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Kennedy Still Highest-Rated Modern President, Nixon Lowest
Source: Gallup

Jimmy Carter's retrospective approval rating and rank drop from 2006

PRINCETON, NJ -- Of the nine U.S. presidents who have served in the past 50 years, John F. Kennedy continues to earn the highest retrospective job approval rating from Americans, now 85%. Ronald Reagan ranks second, with 74%. While these presidents' ratings are largely unchanged from 2006, Bill Clinton's rating has improved, putting him in third place, while Jimmy Carter, at 52%, has dropped from third to sixth. Richard Nixon remains the lowest rated.



The Nov. 19-21 Gallup poll asked Americans to say, based on what they know or remember about the nine most recent former presidents, whether they approve or disapprove of how each handled his job in office.

Kennedy has consistently ranked No. 1 in this Gallup measure initiated in 1990. Nixon has almost always come in last, although Lyndon Johnson had the lowest retrospective approval in 1993 and tied with Nixon in 1992. However, given that many Americans have no opinion of Johnson, his disapproval runs much lower than Nixon's. The most notable changes in this year's update are a nine-point drop in Carter's approval rating and eight-point increases in those for Clinton, George H.W. Bush, and Johnson.

This is Gallup's first retrospective approval measure of George W. Bush since he left office in 2009. His 47% approval and 51% disapproval rating puts him in Nixon's company as the only two presidents whose retrospective disapproval exceeds their approval, although the balance is much more negative for Nixon: 29% approve and 65% disapprove. For Bush -- whose job approval ratings as president descended into the 20s in his final year -- a 47% retrospective approval is actually relatively positive, as his approval rating as president last reached that level in 2005.

Read more: http://www.gallup.com/poll/145064/Kennedy-Highest-Rated-Modern-President-Nixon-Lowest.aspx
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 10:57 AM
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1. Nixon lower than GWBush*? NO WAY...
He may have been a corrupt SOB, but Nixon was at least competent, and given many of the bills he enacted (including the creation of EPA), he was probably the last moderate RETHUG President-- and more liberal in some ways than Clinton or Obama.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:03 AM
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3. + 1,000
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:51 AM
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9. Thats probably more influenced due to nixon
resigning which alot of people (including myself) assume was his admission of guilt.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 05:16 PM
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24. Wasn't Ford the last moderate Republican President?
n/t
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Sirveri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:02 AM
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2. I'd take Nixon over Reagan and Both Bushes.
But I didn't get polled.
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LeFleur1 Donating Member (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:19 AM
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4. Yeah
Nixon was filled with paranoia, and he had his other faults, but he was better at governing than poor puppet Reagan.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 09:13 PM
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27. Understand how you could think that .....
Edited on Tue Dec-07-10 09:15 PM by defendandprotect
but if you really understand Nixon, himself, and Watergate -- and how it prepared the

ground for Reagan and W, you might feel differently.

Nixon had a plan similar to "Operation Northwoods" to stop the election in '72 as

a false flag event, if necessary. It was called "The Huston Plan" --

Nixon got away with what he could at the time --

He kept the VN war raging -- while seeing that faked letters and telphone calls

and telegrams were delivered to the WH support the war!!

Nixon gave us the War on Drugs -- Ehrlichman have told us later that it was inteded

to target African Americans.

Nixon gave us our first totally unelected VP -- after he was forced to rid himself

of the crook Agnew as it became more obvious he would have to resign - he appointed

Rep. Gerald Ford as his VP. Upon his resignation, Ford became president.

Of course, Nixon could not have been elected if Bobby Kennedy instead of Hubert Humphrey

had been his opponent -- RFK was another convenient assassination to clear the field for Nixon.


And many other reasons -- I'd encourage you to check the internet --

Many reasons also to think that the Nixon White House may have been involved in the

Chappaquidick event --

John Dean summed it up when he said to Richard Nixon as recorded on the White House tapes in 1973: "If Teddy knew the bear trap he was walking into at Chappaquiddick. . . ."<5>


__________


3. A rope attached to the stick which held the Oldsmobile throttle wide open caught the drivers rear view mirror and tore it loose so that it was hanging by the rear bolt. There was no other mark on the left side of the car.

4. A sliver of glass from two broken windows no doubt caused this bleeding since Mary Jo was already face down and unconscious in the rear seat. Since there was no autopsy this clean cut went unnoticed by the embalmers.

5. On page 121, White House Tapes Paperback Edition, published by New York Times
http://www.blackopforum.info/index.php?topic=122.0

Daily Sally: My Ted Kennedy Chappaquiddick Story
John Dean: ...if they get those bank records between the start of July of 1969 ... If Kennedy knew the bear trap he was walking into.... --Watergate tape, 3/13/73 ...
dailysally.blogspot.com/.../my-ted-kennedy-chappaquiddick-story.html - 105k - Cached

Evidence that Ted Kennedy was Framed by CIA- Chappaquiddick
John Dean summed it up when he said to Richard Nixon as recorded on the White House tapes in 1973: "If Teddy knew the bear trap he was walking into at Chappaquiddick. ...
www.blackopforum.info/ index.php?topic=122.0 - 107k - Cached


http://surftofind.com/nixon
It is now quite clear and obvious that the Watergate burglars were tied to the murder of John F. Kennedy, and Haldeman does not mince words when he says, "It seems that in all of those Nixon references to the Bay of Pigs, he was actually referring to the Kennedy assassination."

History is one big lie because we fail to expose the truth.
In his memoirs, Nixon said that "the factual truth could probably never be completely reconstructed, because each of us had become involved in different ways and no one's knowledge at any given time exactly duplicated anyone else's." Richard Nixon was wrong.
High level obstructions of justice within the FBI made the Watergate investigation superficial, but the cover up ultimately exposed the truth. The Kennedy assassination investigation is no different because, having successfully obscurred what Nixon called "the factual truth," high level obstruction of justice within the FBI made the Kennedy assassination investigation an absolute whitewash, and the cover up is the crime. Indeed, the factual truth that Richard Nixon's estate is still trying to block, is no longer in doubt.
History is one big lie, when we fail to expose deception, time has a way of exposing all the factual truths that Richard Nixon thought he had buried.
First and foremost, we need to clearly appreciate the fact that Richard Nixon's greatest shortcoming was not Watergate, but his direct involvement in the domestic, assassination plots of the 1960's.
Indeed, it is a documented, proven fact that Nixon's cronies plotted outright political murder (Jack Anderson was lucky to survive.) He was scheming to have people beaten up. He associated with mobsters. Nazi propaganda films were being shown in the White House. His men schemed to burglarize Republican headquarters and blame it on the Democrats. They schemed to plant McGovern campaign literature in the apartment of Art Brehmer, the would-be assassin of George Wallace, and the evidence strongly suggests they probably even schemed to assassinate Ted Kennedy, and after having failed, they blamed the fortunate survivor for the death of unintended victim, Mary Jo Kopechne.
Indeed, Nixon's memoirs are littered with evidence that as far as he was concerned, Chappaquiddick was nothing more than an election issue, it had nothing to do with a tragic murder. To quote Richard Nixon directly:
In the short term, I knew that Chappaquiddick would undermine Kennedy's role as a leader of the opposition to the administration's policies. In the longer term, it would be one of his greatest liabilities if he decided to run for President in 1972.
It was clear that the full story of what had happened that night on Chappaquidick had not come out, and I suspected that the press would not try very hard to uncover it. Therefore I told Ehrlichman to have someone investigate the case for us and get the real facts out. "Don't let up on this for a minute," I said. "Just put yourself in their place if something like that happened to us." In fact, our private investigator was unable to turn out anything besides rumors.
Needless to say, the truth was damaging to Richard Nixon, because if it wasn't, he would not have to rely on rumors about Chappaquiddick, for political advantage. The truth is, Nixon feared another Kennedy candidacy and Chappaquiddick was Richard Nixon's failed attempt to assassinate yet another political rival.
Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis were seen in Martha's Vineyard during the weekend that Mary Jo Kopechne died, and it is therefore safe to assume that the intended victim was in fact, Ted Kennedy. Richard Nixon was right, the entire truth was never exposed. If it was, his Watergate burglars would have been charged with murder, for the collateral death of Mary Jo Kopechne.



Here are a couple of links on the Huston Plan --

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=72673

http://www.twcnet.edu/cschutz/history-page/1960-1980/doc-huston.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huston_Plan


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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 09:22 PM
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28. Never thought I would EVER say this
But I DO agree with you here about Nixon. I would take Nixon HAPPILY over Regan or GWB, and I found Nixon disgustingly awful back in the 1970's.
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Capt. America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:20 AM
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5. If Johnson would not have got caught up in Vietnam he would have had a statue of him on
every corner. He passed as much, if not more, legacy legislation than FDR.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 11:29 AM
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21. I agree
If it hadn't been for that damn war, Johnson would have been one the absolute greats.
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Proletariatprincess Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:41 AM
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6. Jimmy Carter deserves way better...
He is a good man and was a good president at a difficut time. I dont understand his popularity falling.
Here is my rating based on the good, or bad, they did for the country:

Carter
Johnson
Kennedy
Clinton
Ford
Bush 1
Nixon
Reagan
Bush 2

I will just add that all of them were scumbags except Carter...and maybe Kennedy, but he wasn't there long enough.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 11:31 AM
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22. I like your list
That's basically how I would rank them, except I would put Nixon ahead of Bush 1. I really can't think of anything redeeming that Bush 1 did as president.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:43 AM
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7. reagan second? gross
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:49 AM
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8. It's time to topple Reagan off that pedestal.
It's been 30 years since he took office. Time enough to recognize the epic fail of Reaganomics. Time enough to realize that the Iran-Contra debacle was an impeachable offense. How many of the country's and the world's problems today can be traced back to the failed Reagan policies?
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:56 AM
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10. GW Bush II would be my choice..
Nixon was a crook, but he did far less damage than Dubya... . Intentional or not.. ?.
,Maybe the justice is, Nixon was caught and Bush II was not.?.
In fact, as horrible as Nixon was, he even did some good.. Such as the EPA.. Something even Obama could not accomplish , considering the Gridlock we live with in the present Senate..
.All you have to do is consider the EPA has been targeted by today's crazy/ extremist Goobers.
.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:06 PM
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11. So. These results are what The Uninformed thnk. n/t
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:10 PM
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12. G W Bush higher than Nixon? And Carter went lower?
Who the heck did this study? Were all the people polled in Texas and Wyoming?
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:27 PM
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13. Carter's drop is a head scratcher
It's likely the same St. Ronnie folks who are nonsensically blaming the failure of Reaganomics on Carter.
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 08:38 AM
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17. The Saint Ronnie folks are the same ones blaming Bush's disaster on
Obama, no doubt. They do time travel and revisionist history.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:47 PM
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14. Nixon was our last liberal President. nt
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 08:24 PM
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26. No, Carter was the last liberal president
Nixon detested liberals. But he was certainly more liberal than Reagan or the 2 bushes.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 03:56 PM
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15. That's RIDICULOUS, Nixon should come way above
both Bushs and Raygun.
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 05:22 PM
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16. 47% approved of George W. Bush? 47%?
There had to be some kind of selection bias in who they polled. Way too many idiots.
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 08:39 AM
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18. Yes, I would conclude the same thing. 47% is way too high to be
Edited on Tue Dec-07-10 08:40 AM by activa8tr
seen as a valid sampling of the entire electorate.

They probably left all the high school and college graduates out, too much "liberal bias".

Or perhaps this is a poll of evangelical Christians.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 05:17 PM
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25. yeah, when he left office his approval was like low 30's
Could he really have had a 15% jump in two years?
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 08:48 AM
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19. Good thing they dropped Truman and Ike
Because frankly, I believe both those men were better presidents than anyone on this list. The only president more over-rated than Kennedy is Reagan.

BTW this whole thing is sloppy as I am pretty damned sure that 50 years ago today Eisenhower was still in office. A little premature for my tastes. Wait 6 more weeks and then it can be correct.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 10:33 AM
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20. I can't believe that asshole Raygun is higher than President Clinton.
he was a HORRIBLE president!
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 05:04 PM
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23. Frankly I don't give a damn for any of them.
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