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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 07:59 AM
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Pentagon paying soldiers Chile & South Africa up to $4000
Edited on Mon Apr-05-04 08:00 AM by seemslikeadream
Mercenaries 'R' U.S.
Private Pentagon contractors are paying soldiers of fortune from
Chile and South Africa up to $4,000 per month for stints in Iraq
by Bill Berkowitz
www.dissidentvoice.org
April 5, 2004


Currently there are thousands of soldiers under contract with private companies serving in Iraq. "Squads of Bosnians, Filipinos and Americans with special forces experience have been hired for tasks ranging from airport security to protecting Paul Bremer, the head of the Coalition Provisional Authority," The Guardian's Franklin reported.

Chile isn't the only country from which private companies have recruited mercenaries for Iraq. According to the South Africa newspaper, The Cape Times, "More than 1,500 South Africans are believed to be in Iraq under contract to various private military companies." The United Nations recently reported that South Africa "is already among the top three suppliers of personnel for private military companies, along with the UK and the US."


Institute for Security Studies military analyst Henri Boshoff told Tromp that it appeared most of the South Africans in Iraq were former members of the South African Defense Force and South African Police. "The guys over there are walking a thin line, close to contravening the Foreign Military Assistance Act," he added.

According to the Web site of the South African-based Democratic Alliance, the private companies appear to be working in Iraq "in contravention of South African law." South African law states that all security companies working outside the country must register with the National Conventional Arms Control Committee (NCACC), headed by Minister of Education Kader Asmal. "So far," according to Tromp, "two companies, Meteoric Tactical Solutions and Grand Lake Trading 46 (Pty) Ltd, have submitted applications to operate in Iraq."

Meteoric Tactical Solutions "is providing protection and is also training new Iraqi police and security units," while another company, Erinys, a joint South African-British company which has failed to register with the government, "has received a multimillion-dollar contract to protect Iraq's oil industry," the Cape Times reported. Earlier this year, an Erinys employee was killed when a car bomb exploded at a hotel where South Africans have been staying.

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/April2004/Berkowitz0405.htm
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 08:09 AM
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1. Isn't privatization grand
Edited on Mon Apr-05-04 08:09 AM by DoYouEverWonder
(and probably illegal in this case)?

We are probably spending 4x's as much to hire these private mercenaries, compared to the cost for one US troop.

Realize that Bu$h doesn't care if we raise a stink about using the expensive private guys. This will be just the excuse he needs for after the reselection to reinstitute the draft. Then he won't have to pay the mercenaries the big bucks to keep his wars going.

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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 08:17 AM
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3. Plus, there's the added benefit
that the mercenaries don't have to answer to the U.S. government. I'm sure they are involved in all sorts of "interesting" projects over there.

The U.S. Army is accountable to the citizens here and must operate within certain parameters. These mercenaries can to just about anything. Wonder what they are really up to?
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 10:12 AM
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10. Doesn't seem quite right, does it?
We ask our dedicated troops to lay down their lives for 1/4 the amount of money we are paying foreign mercenaries.

Bush views our soldiers as a cheap source of mercenaries.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 08:15 AM
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2. And some of the South Africans...
... are former members of the South African Secret Police who were working for their govt before the end of apartheid. Other mercenaries being hired by American professional "security" companies for assignments in Iraq are ex-Pinochet thugs.

"Civilian contractors" my a**.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 08:27 AM
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4. Come to Blackwater, where the professionals train
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 08:28 AM
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5. When they get killed
or maimed, you don't have to pay them or their survivors anything so it cuts the residual costs of war personnel enormously.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 09:04 AM
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6. $4000 per month is pretty cheap for a foreign gun
That comes to about $25.00 per hour based on a 2000 hour work year, which I doubt. These paid assassins are probably working 24/7.

What do they pay the American mercenary?
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 09:10 AM
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7. those contractors who were killed were getting $1000/day
weren't they? and they were 'merikuns, right?
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Barkley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 09:25 AM
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8. I guess not even the military is immune to outsourcing? - n/t.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 09:30 AM
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9. US outsources its anti-terror war


CHIDANAND RAJGHATTA

TIMES NEWS NETWORK< FRIDAY, APRIL 02, 2004 08:17:12 PM >


WASHINGTON: While the United States is still seething at the killing of four American 'contractors' in Iraq and planning to retaliate against those in Fallujah where the crime was perpetuated, the episode has brought attention to a little-known practice – the US outsourcing of its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to its private armies.

Reports suggest that the United States is using between 10,000 to 15,000 private "contractors," more than the size of the British armed forces in Iraq, for policing and protection of its operations.

Most of these 'contractors' – who would be called mercenaries or militias or vigilantes in other situations – are former US armed forces personnel employed through private agencies. They are said to earn as much as $ 1000 a day.

more
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow/597...


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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 10:15 AM
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11. so is this where Gen. Abizaid is going to get the extra troops?
:crazy:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 11:35 AM
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13. ....and that's why Rummy wanted a small army.
The fucking nitwits.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 11:19 AM
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12. Here come the Hessians
Wow, we're paying these thugs 4,000, but I am sure those Republican bean counters get happy when they factor in that they don't have to pay out any VA expenses!
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 11:48 AM
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14. Pay number is way off! More like $2000 per day!
There is so much wrong information going around!

:(
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:32 PM
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15. Making a Killing: The Business of War
WASHINGTON, October 28, 2002 — At least 90 companies that provide services normally performed by national military forces but without the same degree of public oversight have operated in 110 countries worldwide, providing everything from military training, logistics, and even engaging in armed combat. Amid the global military downsizing and the increasing number of small conflicts that followed the end of the Cold War, governments have turned increasingly to these private military companies to intervene on their behalf around the globe, a new investigation by the Center for Public Integrity's International Consortium of Investigative Journalists has found.

Arms dealers have profited from a massive unregulated sell off of low price surplus armaments into the most fragile, conflict-ridden states and failed states. The weapons, mostly from state-owned Eastern European factories, have found their way to Angola, Sudan, Ethiopia, Colombia, Congo-Brazzaville, Sri Lanka, Burundi and Afghanistan where conflicts have led to the deaths of up to 10 million people during the past decade.

Drawing on classified intelligence files, government reports, court records and public documents, the investigation identifies the non-state actors in this growth industry and explains how they often influence the turn of world events. The nearly two-year investigation, conducted by 35 writers, researchers and editors working on four continents, will be published in 11 installments:

Today: Making a Killing: The Business of War An overview of privatization of combat since the end of the Cold War;
Today: Privatizing Combat, the New World Order A look at the world of private military companies, and the issues raised by the trend of outsourcing war;
Wednesday: Marketing the New Dogs of War How mercenaries, with the aid of public relations professionals, rebranded themselves as private military companies;
Nov. 4: Greasing the Skids of Corruption A case study of how the pursuit of oil in the third world fuels corruption and war;
Nov. 6: The Curious Bonds of Oil Production The U.S. government and a private military company court an oil rich state whose government has been accused of serious human rights violations;
Nov. 8: Conflict Diamonds are Forever Poor controls in the international diamond industry even in South Africa are undercutting attempts to clamp down on conflict diamonds that fuel wars in Africa and, possibly, fund terrorists;
Nov. 11: The Adventure Capitalist While Africa's wars have brought untold misery to millions, some have seen conflict in the region as a business opportunity;
Nov. 13: The Influence Peddlers An entrepreneur with global ties to arms smuggling, resource exploitation and private military companies epitomizes the business of war;
Nov. 15: The Field Marshal An arms trader who admitted to breaking a U.N. arms embargo also claimed ties to French intelligence, the Iranian government, and the since bought out oil company, Elf Aquitaine;
Nov. 18: Drugs, Diamonds and Deadly Cargoes When he was arrested on a drug charge in Milan, Leonid Minin, an arms trader under investigation across Europe, had his business records with him, providing a detailed look into the world of war commerce;
Nov. 20: The Merchant of Death Victor Bout, who has been accused of fueling Africa's bloodiest conflicts, ran a global transportation network with bases and front companies in Europe, the Middle East, Afghanistan, South Africa, Equatorial Guinea, and even the United States.
The Center is also providing access to ICIJ's searchable database that chronicles the global operations of the private military companies. Most of the PMCs, as they are known, are based in the United States, Britain and South Africa, but the vast bulk of their services are performed in conflict-ridden areas of Africa, South America and Asia.

more
http://www.publicintegrity.org/report.aspx?aid=177&sid=100
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