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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:39 AM
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White House Privately Pushing Data Showing Bush Tax Cut Extension (for the rich) Politically Popular
Source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON -- Hoping to build support for the tax-cut deal that the president reached with Congressional Republicans, the White House has begun pressing Hill Democrats with polling data showing that extending the tax rates for the rich is politically popular.

A Senate aide sent over a copy of the email that an administration aide sent to offices on Wednesday morning. In it, the aide touts Gallup polling data showing that "Two-thirds of Americans (66%) favor extending the 2001/2003 tax cuts for all Americans for two years, and an identical number support extending unemployment benefits for the long-term unemployed."

That an administration would promote polling data backing its policy preferences is normally not an astounding revelation. But the private push of the Gallup study struck the Senate aide as depressing if not counter-productive. Even as the president was insisting that he thought an extension of rates for the wealthy is poor economics -- "I'm as opposed to the high-end tax cuts today as I've been for years," Obama said on Tuesday -- his aides were privately embracing the idea that extending the Bush tax cuts across the board was politically prudent.

"We are making the argument for them," said the Senate aide, who sent over the email on condition that it could not be reprinted. "The White House now wants us to defend extending the Bush tax cuts."

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/08/white-house-privately-pus_n_793732.html
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:40 AM
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1. Just. Wow.
Despicable, even.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:46 AM
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3. Disgusting waste
Its like Toilet Humor By Obama and his acolytes
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 01:08 PM
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24. Yep,, Wow.
what disgusting assholes.
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 01:53 PM
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27. That dog won't hunt
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:41 AM
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2. I said it before and I'll keep saying it...
The republicans will have two presidential candidates they can count on running in 2012.

Obama and whoever is running against him.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:48 AM
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4. The exact truth. nt
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:55 AM
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9. Seems like it.
Republican or Batshit Insane Lunatic. That's our menu in 21st Century America.

And there's not a fucking thing we can do about it.

Well, there is. But it would involve bloodshed, the military and police opening fire on citizens, people by the millions stopping Washington and holding nationwide corporate boardroom dwellers hostage until they start playing some goddamned ball and raising some American wages, worldwide economic upheval, and hope that whoever restarts the crawl back to normalcy aren't as greedy as the ones who destroyed it.

But it would never happen, because even "We the People" aren't on the same page.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:21 PM
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17. I would join in, but, you know, Survivors on tonight and my tevo isn't
working...
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Ruperto31 Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 02:18 PM
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28. Don't despair.
Gramsci said that two things help to undermine capitalist hegemony: (1) exposure, and (2) alternative institutions.

Wikileaks is doing a great job of (1), and the internet as a whole is providing lots of instances of the latter.

I know that this seems slow. But then, as Marx said, there are days when twenty years worth of events happen.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:03 AM
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31. Colonists in the 1770's were not all on the same page, either..
Tories, Loyalists and rebels.
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:50 AM
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5. Weird
Considering the fact that he stated yesterday, several times, that the polls were on the side of not extending for he wealthy.

Methinks Obama knows nothing about this.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:50 AM
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6. Obama Undercuts Himself.
How in the world is anyone supposed to believe that Obama is, as he said again yesterday, still against the tax bonuses for the rich ... if his people are using a poll as an argument for voting for the 'deal' because that tax cut is "popular"????
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 08:00 PM
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30. (66%) favor extending the 2001/2003 tax cuts for ALL Americans for two years
NOT EXTRA GRAVY for the RICH.

66% want the tax cut for EVERYONE on the first $250K

The extra cuts for the rich are as popular as bedbugs
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:52 AM
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7. Sick. (nt)
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:54 AM
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8. Sure, pick a poll with a binary question to support a bad position.
Like posing a poll question of "Should all people have freedom?" and then using the positive response as justification for not locking up criminals.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:56 AM
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10. Well, all the polls I have seen say just the fucking opposite. That.......
.........is what the trouble with polls has become today, every partisan can make a poll say whatever they want. We all here know it is how they are worded.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:07 PM
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11. It's what he wanted all along.
Hostage my ass.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:08 PM
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12. What happened to the guy Democrats elected?
Was he replaced by a Republican clone?
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jorae28 Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:10 PM
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13. call your rep and say NO DEAL
We have had way to many NO's in our legislation....call -
email - everyone and anyone and say NO
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:59 PM
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22. I did so.
And not a single one of my reps or senators is for an extension of these tax cuts.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:12 PM
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14. llllllllllol
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:18 PM
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15. This is what Obama wanted all along. All else was his lying to get elected.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:20 PM
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16. I am absolutely opposed to these tax cut extension for the wealthy...
Until the republicans say I have to be for them...
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:26 PM
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18. He LIES
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:29 PM
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19. Well President Obama
This is what is called making the tough decisions and you suck at it. If this is the wrong decision for the long term economics of our country but good for the short term, and these days it's usually very short term, political benefit then make the tough decision that may hurt you politically and reject the extension of tax cuts for the wealthy. Start riding the Republicans train and insist that the deficits are what is bringing down the economy, everybody must do their part. Tell the Republicans that you want separate votes (I know he already has but he needs to really mean it) on the above and below $250000 cuts. Call the Republicans bluff. If letting the wealth enhancing tax cuts expire is the right long term thing to do then let it happen. I didn't agree with everything Bill Clinton did when he was in office but he made the hard decision to balance the budget and did what was necessary to bring it about. President Obama it is not your job to make the Republicans happy it is your job to lead and make the right decisions for all Americans.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:44 PM
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20. The message is clear
We all need to start supporting the tax cuts for the rich! Come on, everybody! It creates jobs, haven't you heard? Next time you get a call from a pollster, be sure to tell them you love Obama and you love tax cuts for the rich!

Man, tax cuts for the rich are great! Why can't we cut 'em to zero?
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zogofzorkon Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:54 PM
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21. Sounds more like he's using than pushing n/t
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 01:02 PM
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23. where was the poll taken -- Wall Street?
Seriously, I would love to know the guts of these polls -- WHO has been polled, what numbers were polled, WHEN they were polled.

It's real easy to pull figures you WANT when you poll the right people. So who is the pollster for the WH?
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 01:32 PM
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25. This thread is absolutely hysterical. Absolutely hysterical. Where the hell am I?
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Ruperto31 Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 02:19 PM
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29. You are among former Obama supporters. nt
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Smashcut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 01:51 PM
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26. Certain "representatives" here have already been flogging these numbers n/t
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:42 AM
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Bloomberg Publicly Publishing Poll Showing Obama's "Compromise" Unpopular
Obama's Compromise on Extending Highest-Income Tax Cuts Unpopular in Poll
By John McCormick and Julianna Goldman - Dec 8, 2010 11:29 AM ET

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-08/obama-s-compromise-on-extending-highest-income-tax-cuts-unpopular-in-poll.html
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:42 AM
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32. Self delete-dupe
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 04:49 AM by No Elephants
Obama's Compromise on Extending Highest-Income Tax Cuts Unpopular in Poll
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