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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:13 PM
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Key vote on 'Don't Ask Don't Tell' repeal fails
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 04:14 PM by brooklynite
Source: MSNBC

Carrie Dann writes: A key procedural vote on the bill containing a repeal of the military’s Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy failed Thursday, dealing a final blow to advocates who hoped to overturn the 17-year old ban on gays and lesbians serving openly in the military during this session of Congress.

Democrats needed 60 votes to advance the Defense Authorization bill for debate on the floor. The vote failed, 57-40.

Ultimately, Majority Leader Harry Reid called for the vote without having reached a procedural agreement with moderate Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, who supports repeal but wanted greater openness for the process of amending and passing the bill. Collins voted aye on the measure, but other Republicans who support repeal but had voiced similar procedural concerns -- Sens. Scott Brown and Lisa Murkowski -- voted no.

One Democrat, newly-elected Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia, broke with his party to vote no.

Read more: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/12/09/5619090-key-vote-on-dont-ask-dont-tell-repeal-fails



It's my opinion that nothing will get done before Congress adjourns.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:27 PM
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1. Don't give Collins any credit
She knew it would fail so she voted Aye to give herself cover.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:31 PM
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2. Sen. Joe Manchin
should just change parties already....what's the use of having him in the dem party?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:38 PM
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4. +1
If he can't vote for this, he's no Democrat at all.
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lobodons Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:31 PM
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3. Congress blew it
The military wanted Congress to overturn DADT knowing that the Judiciary will overturn in the courts. Congress blew it and went against what the military wanted.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:38 PM
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5. More specifically
the Military worry was that a Court ruling would require immediate implementation, whereas a Congressional Act would likely incorporate time to develop an implementation process.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:40 PM
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6. Who didn't vote?
Is there a rollcall yet?
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:41 PM
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7. Lieberman and Collins say they will introduce free-standing bill to repeal DADT
Well, that's something.
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 05:57 PM
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11. That was my immediate response....vote on it NOW as a free-standing bill. Too bad
it's not Dems proposing it. Oy, really sick of this shit.

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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 05:06 PM
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8. What amazes me
I have checked a couple of sites including Yahoo and when they reported the House Democrats refusing to take up the Obama/Republican tax deal it was reported as 'Democrats block Obama Tax Deal' or something like that. Now with this DADT story I check the same sites and they are all reporting 'Senate blocks DADT repeal' or again something like that. Is it interesting how when it is something corporate America and the conservatives want it is reported as 'the Democrats' doing it. Yet when it is something the corporations (read military industrial complex) and conservatives don't want to see happen it is given the generic 'Senate blocks' treatment.
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groundloop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 05:26 PM
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9. Excellent point.
This needs to get passed, but repukes and their media whores are still doing all they can to stop it (and deflect blame to the Democrats).

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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 06:02 PM
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12. Really important catch
Try and get if to maddow
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 07:48 PM
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13. Why would the MIC care one bit about DADT repeal?
Doesn't matter who's holding a gun or driving a tank.
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RussBLib Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 05:50 PM
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10. This filibuster is pure BS
Why is it that the House can pass things by simple majority, but the Senate always seems to need 60%?

This is a rhetorical question.

The Dems should have changed that BS when they had the chance. They really have only themselves to blame.
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