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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 05:20 PM
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Transgender Woman says DMV Clerk Warned of Hell
Source: SF Chronicle

A few days after Amber Yust visited the Department of Motor Vehicles in San Francisco to register her sex change from male to female, she got a letter at home from the DMV employee who had handled her application.

Homosexual acts, he informed her, were "an abomination that leads to hell."

The same day, Yust said, a DVD arrived from a fundamentalist church warning of eternal damnation for anyone "possessed by demons" of homosexuality. The DMV employee's letter had referred her to the church's website as a source of "critical information for your salvation."

What's more, the DMV had kept the employee on in 2009 even after he refused to process another transgender woman's name-change application, Yust said in a damage claim filed with the state, the precursor to a lawsuit.



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/12/09/BAGS1GOICK.DTL#ixzz17kYoSEl4

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/12/10/MNGS1GOICK.DTL



IMHO this fundy needs to be fired!
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Luciferous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 05:33 PM
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1. I agree, he should be fired.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 05:47 PM
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2. Already on it in GD
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Denninmi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 05:53 PM
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3. I hope she can sue the DMV for big bucks.
n/m.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 06:20 PM
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4. and the country....
Edited on Fri Dec-10-10 06:21 PM by awoke_in_2003
just keeps on marching down the primrose trail towards Jeebus. Hey, people- the Bible was written by people who thought the world was flat and the universe revolved around it. Can you really take it seriously?
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wial Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:39 PM
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9. short answer:
no

longer answer:

it does include some pretty astute observations of human nature in some places (e.g. Proverbs), and for a typical nation building document (the Hebrews back filled it to give themselves a plausible history, like Romans did with the Aeneid) it's pretty interesting for forensic examination.

As a guide for ethics and religious faith, humans have done a whole lot better elsewhere.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 08:56 PM
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17. one principle I wish all would adhere to...
"do unto other as you would have them do unto you". If this one principle alone was followed by all, it would be a much better world.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:04 PM
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6. A math problem:
Amber is a transgender woman getting her name changed on her license at the DMV. Caleb, a fundie Christian reluctantly performs that job. Later he sends Amber a DVD about how homosexuality is evil.

Suzy is a fundie Christian who want's to change her name to "Mary" on her license at the DMV. Chet is an atheist who helps her and listens to her Christian rant about the evils of evolution, smiling. Later Chet sends her a DVD about evolution.

How many months longer will Caleb be employed than Chet?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:09 PM
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7. no comments about the DMV being hell?
so disappointed in this crew

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wpelb Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:35 PM
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8. You mean like when you're holding ticket G115 . . .
And the next number called is G63?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 01:03 AM
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16. that's nothing
try being a couple of minutes late for your test and being told that you have to reschedule even though there is no one waiting to take their's
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:57 PM
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10. Another person
helping to solve the California budget shortfall by getting himself fired.
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pitchforksandtorches Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:13 PM
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11. The DMV clerk should know - that is where he was trained.
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BobTheSubgenius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 09:25 PM
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12. Same clerk whose actions prompted training sessions for DMV employees.
I don't see any other recourse for them but to fire this @^&*(^.

On the upside for Fundy Loon, he's likely going to benefit from the few extra weeks pf Unemployment because of the recent WH collapse on the tax issue.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 09:29 PM
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13. Those "Christians" never think "judge not lest ye be judged" applies to them
Sounds like someone's being plagued by the Demons of Assholery.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 09:38 PM
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14. This is an invasion of privacy
The clerk had no right to use her address in any way that wasn't related to motor vehicles business. It's a type of stalking, actually. Criminal charges wouldn't be out of line.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 10:34 PM
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15. Fired and a lawsuit for the DMV..
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 10:15 PM
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18. FWIW - my SIL was helping a person to change her identity
from male to female on some official forms. He thought he was assisting a transgendered person and was congratulating himself on his sensitivity. Then he realized the woman was an immigrant who had checked the wrong box on her immigration form and a data clerk had recorded her as male. Still, his heart is in the right place.
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WestSeattle2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 11:04 PM
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19. The DMV IS Hell.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 07:41 PM
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22. If you want to learn how to run a business the right way, go to the DMV and do the exact
opposite.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 02:36 AM
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20. Transgendered people have courage I may never know. nt
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 04:06 AM
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21. This one's a complete no-brainer. If the employee hasn't been fired yet there's something very wrong
Even if the DMV were a bunch of intolerant wankers who see nothing wrong with discriminating against someone who's transgendered, surely for an employee to use their access to records to gain someone's home address and send something to them that's not official DMV stuff is a sackable offense. And not only that, but it looks like they shared the address with some fundy church people. No wonder Amber Yurst feels vunherable. I hopoe she wins her case and that wanker is sacked if he hasn't already been...
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