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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:31 PM
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WikiLeaks: Scandal caused deep rift in Vatican-Ireland relationship
Source: CNN

CNN) -- Relations between the Vatican and Ireland deteriorated sharply as the Holy See appeared to ignore a commission looking into complaints of physical and sexual abuse of children by Irish priests, according to U.S. diplomatic cables obtained by WikiLeaks.

One cable from earlier this year says the Vatican was angered by the way the Murphy Commission -- which was looking into the how complaints of abuse had been handled by the Church and Irish government -- sidestepped normal diplomatic channels.

The commission had written directly to the Vatican to seek information and requested a meeting with the Vatican's representative in Ireland. The Vatican envoy did not respond, according to the cable.

The cable was one of several published Friday by the Guardian newspaper in London.



Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/10/wikileaks.vatican.ireland/
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:36 PM
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1. Pedophile priests and the damage they do. The story that won't go away.
It's amazing to me how many people are interested in enabling these damaged predators.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:44 PM
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2. Culture of Corruption
It's this kind of crap from the Vatican that triggered the Reformation. Why does the Planet have to go through this again?
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:39 PM
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5. I never really believed in Institutional Psychopathy.
Until now.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:58 AM
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12. Isn't it incredible that we're witnessing such an historical event?
I would never have seen this coming. Now, if only the impact of what's going on finally sinks in with the mainstream.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:13 PM
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13. We only answer to God
and he says "Fuck off!"
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 07:52 PM
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3. Who's going to get upset next?
Pulling the asks off has shown how ugly, and fake, the system has been.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:04 PM
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4. Oh, I'm loving this wikileaks.
Some things should never be allowed to become secrets.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 09:37 PM
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7. exactly
their 'outcry' is laughable given their corruption.
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 08:56 PM
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6. Great, now only if Wikileaks can hack into BP and get documents related to the gulf oil spill.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 10:06 PM
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8. who knows.... maybe they will
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:42 AM
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9. All those people coming forward and standing up to the
commission, especially after the government refused to make the church
copable, best and worse day for Ireland.


They sent those priests to the states too.

Look up defrocked priest Oliver O'Grady.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 01:58 PM
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16. They have BP documents, they just haven't released them yet.

They've only released .05% of the documents so far. We have a long way to go.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:13 PM
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17. I didn't know that! Thank you for keeping up with the latest leaks
for those of us who can't follow the news every day.

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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 06:14 AM
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10. WikiLeaks cables: Vatican refused to engage with child sex abuse inquiry
Source: Guardian (UK)

Leaked cable lays bare how Irish government was forced to grant Vatican officials immunity from testifying to Murphy commission

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/10/wikileaks-vatican-child-sex-abuse-investigation



Holy Mary, Mother of God ...
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 06:14 AM
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11. "Smirk." - Pope Ratzinger (R) & Vatican Cronies (R)
Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 06:13 AM by SpiralHawk
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 12:27 PM
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14. Connected to the Mafia and hiding Pedophillia
those visions of La Salette and talks about the Vatican as the seat of the Antichrist

it seems that corruption runs amok
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 01:52 PM
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15. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, Joanne.
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