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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:13 PM Original message |
Assange Lawyer: U.S. Wants to Get Their "Mitts" on WikiLeaks Founder (Grand Jury Empaneled in VA) |
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madmax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. Psssst Holder - over there, bush and cheney. |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Investigation the past admin's crimes would be dangerous for this one. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
31. Has Holder ever been on the right side of anything? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
84. If we were going by Geneva, we'd also have to go after Clinton, GHWB, and Carter too. |
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Arrowhead2k1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Makes me sick. There's no justice in this world. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
77. I was reading the original story and wondered how long it would |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:53 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. Pelosi knew about the waterboarding, and did nothing. |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 07:00 AM Response to Reply #86 |
152. & I wonder what she knew about Turkey. |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:25 PM Original message |
The congressional losses wouldn't have occured if Dems had the balls |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
113. I'd love to see the polling that indicates that further ignoring the |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. So the Dems ignored the economy AND ignored the bushite crimes |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #113 |
123. Your problem is you have no true understanding of the Wikileaks mission. |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 12:17 AM Response to Reply #123 |
165. I'll be sure to let you know if/when I have a problem understanding |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #77 |
104. dupe |
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molly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
79. When Scooter Libby and his boss, Dick, |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #79 |
119. Scooter was found guilty of lying to FBI agents... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. Betcha some dumbass RW prosecutor tries to charge him with treason, lol. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. Well, that's pretty stupid. It's a case they can't win |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I agree. The potential threat to my civil liberties |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. No, handling things as a military matter is bad, and is the paradigm shift deployed in the |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. By military I mean clandistine |
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14thColony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
72. Exactly! What's the point of God-Given American Exceptionalism(tm) |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #72 |
106. Can you believe we have DU'ers like that one? |
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14thColony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 02:54 AM Response to Reply #106 |
151. That's why I don't hold out a lot of hope |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
98. If it's Alexandria, then he's in the rocket docket....n/t |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
135. In which ways, for example? -nt |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:19 AM Response to Reply #5 |
144. So Amnesty International and The Economist gave awards |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. They'll push for a military tribunal. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. And they'd be wrong. The civilian courts have gotten more convictions |
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Billy Burnett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
49. Illogic roolz |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Protecting criminals is national security! |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. You people are myopic. Read this cable, the person here brought uranium in |
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elias49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
78. Pavulon, you just did what you want Assange wrung out for |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Actually that is published by someone else. A hyperlink |
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elias49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:04 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. My first thought was: "What's this guy doing w/uranium?" |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:06 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Working on a project to develop it? Who knows, that document was not stolen |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #78 |
120. Gawd... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:58 PM Response to Reply #59 |
87. Oh, by all means, protect people trying to sell supposed bomb materials! |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:00 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Not what the cable stated and the expat giving information on shipments |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. One reason for this specific disclosure, or disclosures in general? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #94 |
109. clearly, because with all this data, you got the context as well. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #109 |
117. Assange isn't picking which cables to vet and release. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #117 |
121. No others involved in his orginization are.. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #121 |
128. That's not how it works. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #128 |
132. ANd a comspiracy works when one person is breaking the law |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 01:06 AM Response to Reply #132 |
149. "If"? IF? Wow, maybe you're a bit behind on your information? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #149 |
159. (1:51:25 PM) bradass87: i'd have to ask assange , Lets see how conspiracy works.. |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #88 |
107. Truth. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:45 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. So a persons life is worth "truth" you are of course aware that coded |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #108 |
127. You offer a false dichotomy. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #127 |
131. So should all truth be revealed? or just some. |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #131 |
136. I love how you always drop your military credentials in these debates. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:38 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. Yeah, the systems that track all that hardware in realtime |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #137 |
140. Hardware isn't the issue. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:06 AM Response to Reply #140 |
142. That can be addressed without compromising people |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:38 AM Response to Reply #142 |
145. Give it time. Wikileaks may blow the lid off that one too. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #131 |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. The lawyer Assange has now got here in th UK |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. We have the death penalty and our torture problem. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Would be. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Do you think so? After watching one country after another |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. remember Iceland? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. In what respect? Did they reject our bullying |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. You fight where you can have the most impact: |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Oh, yeah. That's very true. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Britain has always had their head stuck up the ass of Uncle Sam. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. And maybe that London has been on fire. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
122. But Sweden is doing the extradition first |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
32. ...death penalty, torture, prison w/out trial, no firm habaeus corpus, inhuman prisons |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. It just occurred to me that Assange was picked up in England |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. You think they want that?(nt) |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #37 |
68. My gut feeling is the British courts would say the Swedish charges take precedence |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. That's reassuring, thank you, muriel. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 06:04 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Oh, I didn't think you were impugning it; and the above was my amateur guess |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 06:22 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. I don't think he'll leave the UK |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
146. "Our torture problem" -- I hereby nominate that for Understatement |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 01:00 AM Response to Reply #146 |
147. I know. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
9. Karl Rove is such a darling. |
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silver10 (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. What have we become, China? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Guess you've never been to china.(nt) |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. You are right. We are not China. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. The pure market crazyness or the communisim? |
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silver10 (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. Yes, I was being overly dramatic - a hyperbole |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. He has a right to disclose bank information. In fact |
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silver10 (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. I guess there is really no threat to freedom of speech, it's all just one big coincidence. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Espionage is not covered under that clause |
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silver10 (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Understood. |
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laylah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
21. Posted on my FB page |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
23. Whether or not he should be charged is unknown, but clearly, he is going |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Material Witness can be held |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. That is true, but holding him without evidence could be an untenable situation. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Conspiracy or Racketeering seem to present the |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #40 |
61. I think they are going to have more than that to avoid a public relations nighmare. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:59 PM Original message |
If they can prove death they have a real case.. |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. "clearly, he is going to have to answer some questions." |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. To determine if he conspired with manning, if he did, he can be charged |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. He doesn't have to answer any questions. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. No he does not. I would assume signal intelligence |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. You assume all kinds of stuff. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. You are never forced to be a witness in your own trial.. |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Because serious questions demand serious answers. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. The bottom of what? A free press? Freedom of expression? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Wikileaks is not press. It is an intelligence agency |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. WikiLeaks is not intelligence agency. It is a Press organization |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. They are not press, they do not act as press, and have said they are not press |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Lmao, keep cheerleading for your beloved empire. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Here is a gun, this information is lethal. Read and weep (you will not because you dont care) |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
139. I guess your also curious about those Nigerian children |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:07 AM Response to Reply #139 |
143. They should be charged. I am NOT suggesting crimes be covered up |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 02:08 AM Response to Reply #143 |
150. In other words...we should never have found out in the first place? |
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silver10 (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. If they act like M16 and the KGB, |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
76. An intelligence agency for whom? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. For themselves. Meds really, thats what you have... |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #82 |
95. Intelligence agency for themselves = news organization. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #95 |
110. The do not claim to be news, they are brokering secret data stolen from the military |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
57. This is not journalism, it is espionage. It is very questionable if a 3rd party |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Baloney. Wikileaks is a media organization. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Hey XXXX is a dead man. Read this. |
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silver10 (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:02 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. I'm no saint, |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. This person was discussing joint efforts with the North Koreans |
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silver10 (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:13 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. OK, if you say so, but I didn't get that from that link to that cable report. |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. Someone coming and going in public? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. They have date and time of person providing nuclear materials to the US |
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elias49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:52 PM Response to Reply #60 |
85. There you go again. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. The people who actually act on these cables have already seen it. |
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elias49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:06 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. That's weak. "HE DID IT FIRST" |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Sorry I missed the part where you explained how disclosing this information |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. I disagree, but let's assume for a moment that they are "media organization." |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Maybe you need to review what espionage is. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Depraved Indifference murder is illegal. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #57 |
126. And of course you have proof of this, right!?! |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #126 |
133. That happens in court. Hey who proved gerry bull's death penalty case |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
125. Crickets - eh, Amigo? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:19 PM Response to Reply #125 |
129. You bet. Now, how is our government going to extradite him? |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:54 PM Response to Reply #129 |
138. We'll see. It might be harder than they think... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:58 PM Response to Reply #138 |
141. It's illegal for Sweden to extradict him to a country with the death penalty. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
124. Have you forgotten about the execrable "patriot" act? |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
75. How can a secretly empanelled grand jury be legal? |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. Secretly empanelled grand jury means death or life imprisonment, isolation, torture,you name it. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #75 |
97. It is entirely legal. And there is no 'defendant' per se. |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. But this is truly awful. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #102 |
134. That's pretty much the way the USAmerican criminal-injustice system works... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #75 |
130. "How can a secretly empanelled grand jury be legal?" |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #75 |
157. Not in any Grand Jury in this country... |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
80. The World Police want this guy to push their Internet Kill Switch,. |
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SILVER__FOX52 (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
96. U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder is a ...... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
99. what a pathetic government we have |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
100. Given the lack of security on the State Dept. network and the wide |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #100 |
112. Let him drop it. Stop teasing info, driving up click through dollars. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 01:03 AM Response to Reply #100 |
148. Dan Ellsberg said there were 600,000 users on that network. n/t |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
101. Mr. Obama does not have the best interests of Dems...or America..as his program. |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
103. The DEMOCRATS are in the White House now |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #103 |
111. Because a Democratic President would approve of espionage |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
105. I thought we couldn't try high-profile people like this in the United States. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
114. Yep, the fix is in... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. No he will stand trial in Northern Virginia |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #116 |
153. Your high. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #153 |
158. Yes. I do believe they will allow him to stand trial if evidence supports conspiracy |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 11:04 PM Response to Reply #158 |
164. Your right about one thing. He's not the press. He's better than the press. |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 10:48 AM Response to Reply #116 |
154. Letter from Australia media conglomerate as of 12/13/2010 |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #114 |
118. glitch in the matrix(dupe) |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
155. Isn't it amusing that the US wants to be judge jury and executioner against Assange |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 11:46 AM Response to Reply #155 |
156. I'm afraid this DoJ is just as much of a joke as the previous one. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #156 |
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