Senate defeats McCain's New START amendment

[TomCADem]

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN) -- The U.S. Senate on Saturday voted down an amendment Saturday would have taken out language that recognizes a relationship between offensive and defensive weapons from the preamble of the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, the proposed nuclear arms treaty with Russia.

The vote was 59-37 against the amendment, put forward by Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona. He had argued the language would constrain American plans for missile defense.

The vote against the amendment helps to clear the way for the Senate to debate ratification of the treaty, known as New START, though it is unclear when a final vote might take place.

The Senate Foreign Relations Committee voted for ratification of the accord in September. A vote from the full Senate has yet to occur.


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/12/18/senate.start.treaty/

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Fresh off his efforts to kill the repeal of DADT, would-be President John McCain is now trying to prevent the approval of the START treaty, which is needed to limit nuclear proliferation.

This just proves once again that there is a big difference between Republicans and Democrats, and that we need to stop giving Republicans a free pass.

[Frisbee]

1. Bad day for Grumpy McCain...

What a shame. :rofl:

[COLGATE4]

2. Grumpy is determined to go out as a bitter old man whose only

goal is to shit on anything/everything Obama can present. He's never gotten over his rage at having his entitlement to be President taken away from him by 'that n----r'.

[tomm2thumbs]

3. McCain is making his own coal today - hope he can have someone deliver it back to his stocking

some xmas spirits need to visit this old slouch before he ends up without a soul heading for the end of a wasted career. in like a lion, out like a weasel.

[formercia]

4. McLame still insists on nuke warheads in the ABM

The man doesn't have a clue.

[buckrogers1965]

5. The senate can't amend a treaty.

It is a strait up or down vote.

Separation of powers. The president gets to negotiate treaties, the Senate confirms/rejects them.

[Canuckistanian]

6. Right. It was a meaningless gesture.

But red meat for conservatives.

[Vattel]

7. could its being in the preamble make a difference?

Just wondering.

[Canuckistanian]

8. The treaty was not amended in any shape or form

Congress can't amend treaties. Period. Up or down votes only.

[TomCADem]

16. A Senate Amendment Would Doom The Treaty

...Because it would require the administration to renegotiate the treaty. If the Russians don't accept the amendment, the treaty is dead.

[jillan]

9. When is he going to realize that he is a loser? He is out of touch on everything.

Too bad the wrong guy won the Dem primary in Az, anyone of the other 3 may actually have defeated grumps.

[Historic NY]

10. McGrumpy will do anything to stop the next vote.

[AndyTiedye]

11. McCain's Addled Brain Is a Violation of the START Treaty

[Pavulon]

12. All about BPI. nothing else.

will the 19 iranian icbms dumped by assange get rtn paid? bet on it. as much as i dislike julian and manning that contract will make me a shit ton of money..

day it dropped the calls looked good.

[Loudmxr]

13. That vote does not look good for final ratification.

The Rs are committed to making our President look bad. If it takes making our country look bad then so be it.

They really are disgusting.

I mean if GWB got drunk at the Olympics or something ... I would hide him. Really. Throw a bag over his head and say "Nothing to see here folks. Move along." It's The President for Chrissakes!! It is the National Honor!!!

Not that GWB would get drunk at the Olympics or such.:shrug:

[RBInMaine]

15. I think it will pass. Public opinion is weighted too heavily against the PUKES on this one. If they

vote no, and Obama and Dems do their job, the PUKES will look like total assholes on this.

[karynnj]

17. I don't know -

I can think of many bills where Democrats voted for amendments that the Republicans said would kill the bill and then some voted for the final bill.

One bill I remember that on was the one we called the "torture" bill. There were several who voted for Ted Kennedy's amendment that designated 10 things as torture - and they then voted for the bill. There are many - like Lindsey Graham bringing up disappointment on DADT - which has NOTHING to do with this. I would bet that Lugar or Kerry will give him a face saving way to retreat and vote yes.

[RBInMaine]

14. Good. Fuck him ! Hateful divisive bitter old asshole !

[Vidar]

18. Are you upset enough over this to have a stroke, John?