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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:04 PM
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Broadband firms urged to block sex websites to protect children
Source: The Guardian

Internet service providers are to be asked by the government to tighten up on website pornography to try to combat the early sexualisation of children.

Ministers believe broadband providers should consider automatically blocking sex sites, individuals being required to "opt in" to receive them, rather than "opt out" and use the available computer parental controls.

Ed Vaizey, the communications minister, is to meet internet providers, including BT, Virgin Media and TalkTalk, "in the near future" to discuss changing the way pornography enters private homes, the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills confirmed.

The move is designed to protect children from being exposed to pornography on the net.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/dec/19/broadband-sex-safeguard-children-vaizey
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:05 PM
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1. The early sexualization? Why don't they clamp down on advertising?
n/t
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:18 PM
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4. For sure....
Get rid of all the Lolita based advertising and all the objectifying of little girls from age 4 and up.

But then again, the girls are turning into women, physically, at least, at a younger and younger age because of all the hormones injected into our food system...
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:07 PM
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2. Why not make parents block websites?
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 03:07 PM by Lucian
Why block porn to all? I love surfing porn. If parents can't do their fucking job, why should I have to pay for it?

God I'm sick of how everything is always about the goddamn children.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:18 PM
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5. have to agree.
The internet shouldn't be geared to 5 year olds. What's next? tuff about gays? US foreign policy? Republican pedophilia? Religious hypocrisy? No, if the parents are so concerned about their child's contamination of what they see, there's a rather simple solution. Pull the plug. Problem solved. I wish these people would stop being nanny's of what is and is not acceptable for our society.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:22 PM
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8. +1
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:39 PM
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9. Totalitarianism always starts by howling about the pore bay bees
Haven't you noticed?

Porn doesn't do a thing for me. However, if it floats anybody else's boat, that's fine as long as women and children aren't harmed in producing it.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:43 PM
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11. True, and sadly I see it on the right and the left (nt)
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 09:48 PM
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39. When fascism comes, it will come bearing a flag and a cross
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 10:13 PM
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43. I despise the lovejoy as well..
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 12:15 PM
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47. "Children are the crowbar of Fascism"
a quote from a friend of mine, and I tend to agree.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:24 PM
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15. Same here too! "God I'm sick of how everything is always about the goddamn children." n/t
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 09:47 PM
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38. K & R
I absolutely can't stand the "for the children" whiners. They're even worse than the Teabaggers in my honest opinion.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 09:59 PM
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42. That seems to be what they are saying with opt-in and opt-out
The policy question is simply which is the default choice for residential service.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 02:37 PM
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48. How about providers not getting into the business, at all, of censorship?
I would prefer that no one even research how to do it.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:16 PM
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3. How about changing the way stupid government ideas enter private homes?
The British government should ban their own sites which promote such nonsense.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:21 PM
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6. What is the definition of a "sex website"?
I'll be waiting, Mr. communications minister. BTW, the BBC has stories about sex from time to time.

NO INTERNET CENSORSHIP!
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:40 PM
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10. does Wikileaks count?
Just asking, as its founder has been accused of rape. Oh, and Wikileaks harms governments doesn't it?
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:47 PM
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12. Or even wikipedia..
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 03:51 PM by Turborama
I mean, it even has a whole portal just for pornography: http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&q=pornography+portal+wikipedia&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

(I just found out doing a Google search purely for this reply. True story.)
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:55 PM
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13. Or DU, we're talking about sex right now. Ban DU unless you opt-in?
:eyes:
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:17 PM
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14. There's no end to it
The neo-Victorian Tories might as well go the whole hog and just ban the internet for minors.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:27 PM
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17. Not here. Sex thread are explicity forbidden,
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:28 PM
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19. Right, I'll alert the thread. :)
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:50 PM
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22. You said sex
I'm telling.
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Neurotica Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 05:03 PM
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24. And who gets to make that determination...?!
Would organizations like Planned Parenthood, SIECUS and the Guttmacher Institute be considered as "sex websites"? In some eyes, the answer would undoubtedly be yes. And that's why this should concern people.

Filtering should not be done at a macro level. However, if people want to use filters on their own, that's fine.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 09:49 PM
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40. Some public libraries and schools block sites that have certain
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 09:49 PM by tblue37
words, thus preventing people from researching such subjects as breast cancer!
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 03:21 PM
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7. I'd go after 'News Pornography' first - like FoxNews.. something that really affects America
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 03:21 PM by tomm2thumbs

do that first, then we'll talk

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:25 PM
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16. Yes, let's make EVERYTHING safe for children, so that the entire world looks like Nick Jr. n/t
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:27 PM
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18. orwell`s england....
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:43 PM
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20. Neo-Victorian England...
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:47 PM
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21. Slippery slope
First they block the sex sites, then what's next?
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 04:51 PM
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23. Here we go, get ready for the kill switch.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 05:12 PM
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25. Britain != US. (nt)
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 05:14 PM
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26. they should block religion sites. sex is natural, religion is fabricated lol nt
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 06:02 PM
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27. while
they are at it why not get government handlers for their children's day to day activities? Here's a thought, parent's protect your own damn children.
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 08:10 PM
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28. How about parents installing blockers on their computers instead?
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cowcommander Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 08:31 PM
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29. British government considers blocking internet porn from homes
Source: Telegraph UK

Ed Vaizey, the communications minister, has called a meeting with the country’s biggest broadband providers, including BT, Virgin Media and TalkTalk, to explore changing how pornography gets into homes.

Instead of using parents having to choose to stop access to explicit websites, through parental controls, a block will be placed at source, meaning adults will have to specifically opt-in to receive the images.

The move is designed to prevent children from being exposed to sex at an early age and follows warnings about the hidden impact of pornography.

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/8212646/Internet-pornography-curb-by-the-Government.html
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 08:31 PM
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30. This will bring down the conservatives. Easy. (nt)
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 08:31 PM
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31. They claim it's about the children
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 07:48 PM by howaboutme
while it is always about censorship for all. Porn now, and blocking of opposition news sites next.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 08:31 PM
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32. I agree
HUGE slippery slope (NO PUN INTENDED) :rofl:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 08:31 PM
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33. LOL. No clue at all. nt
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 08:31 PM
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34. .
Edited on Sun Dec-19-10 09:24 PM by Anakin Skywalker
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 08:31 PM
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35. Hey, Chavez is doing something similar...
Britain wants to censor the internet for "the kids", Chavez wants to protect the oh-so-sensitive public from seeing things that "disrespect public authority" or "promote anxiety".

I am guessing our DU Chavista brigade will be outraged at the Brits, but supportive of their hero in Venezuela.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 08:32 PM
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36. Hrumph. And the Tories accuse the Left of 'nanny state policies'!
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 09:30 PM
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37. WHy not block bad parents from breeding instead? n/t
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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 09:54 PM
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41. Camel nose under the tent. Always for the children
But Hugo says we can't say bad things about our leaders
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 01:20 AM
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44. Don't these children have parents?
If so, where are they? They need to do their job.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 11:42 AM
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45. self delete.
Edited on Mon Dec-20-10 11:57 AM by sarcasmo
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Still a Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 12:11 PM
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46. Some children simply don't have responsible parents
They should, but they don't. Our response as progressives should be what? To hell with them?

Having to opt in to sites like this is no big deal if it helps protect some kids.
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