BREAKING: Male Suspect in Giffords Shooting in Custody; News Briefing 3:30 p.m. ET

[Hissyspit]

Source: CBS News

January 8, 2011 2:38 PM
Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot; 4 Confirmed Dead
Posted by David S Morgan

At least four people are confirmed dead at the scene, including an aide to Rep. Giffords.

Initial reports by CBS Affiliate KOLD that the Congresswoman was among the fatalities were corrected by her press people, who told KOLD that she is alive but in surgery.

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A law enforcement source told CBS News producer Pat Milton that a man apparently stood up in the crowd during the town hall meeting, shouted something and then opened fire. Someone - possibly police or security - then shot at the gunman.

The gunman has been apprehended but it is unknown if he were wounded.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20027900-503544.html?tag=breakingnews

[bluestateguy]

1. How about we say 1:30 MT since that's where it happened

I just get annoyed with this notion that we should all go by Eastern time, as if the whole world revolves around the Bos-Wash corridor.

[Xipe Totec]

2. Way to focus on what's important.

After all, we would not want to annoy you. :eyes:

[hedgehog]

3. Seriously? This is what's got you concerned today?

[tekisui]

4. I prefer EST. That way I don't have to do any math.

:hi:

[DesertFlower]

6. i know what you mean. i'm

on mountain time.

[Tx4obama]

9. Us folks in the central time zone know how to calculate ET, but

MT is what one or two or three hours off of ET?
One or two hours off of Central time?
ET is easier to figure out ;)

[LTR]

10. Arizona time is a bit confusing though

No daylight savings time, so sometimes they're in Mountain, sometimes Pacific. Tough to keep track.

[Kablooie]

12. We should switch to GMT and make it equitable for everyone.

Or as it is more affectionately known, Zulu time.

Though why we should make time calculations easy for the Zulu tribe in Africa,
I have no idea.

[DBoon]

23. I think it is called UTC now

For "Coordinated Universal Time" in French

[Agent William]

36. Not bloody likely...

We invented the timezones and we certainly aren't going to give it any French name. I'm sure the French probably call it GMT too. Uhg, it's like when they tried to rename the British Isles, 'The Islands of the North Atlantic' as not be politically incorrect :p

I do question the need to bring this whole thing up during such a serious event though, and I did snicker when that was the number one post.

:hi:

[jonthebru]

13. Well this is very important, considering.

[Nostradammit]

31. Nice disruption.

[WinkyDink]

40. Standards are soooo annoying.

[Delphinus]

5. Please let him remain alive.

I want to know his motivations.

[DesertFlower]

7. i agree. nt

[bluestateguy]

8. Oh I agree

We need to know who he is and why he did this.

Then after a trial with full due process, he should be executed.

[Historic NY]

11. Shooter born in 1988 is talking with authorities was alone

live from KOLD tv Jared Laughner

[pam4water]

14. I surfed past Fox News. They are saying there was a second gun man.

[johnfunk]

15. @RussertXM_NBC: Federal authorities identify the gunman as Jared Laughner of Arizona...

... born September 1988

Li'l li'l Russ got the scoop! Wow!

[naaman fletcher]

16. I hope someone posts his Facebook page

I'm in a bar and can't search well on my phone.

[Altoid_Cyclist]

22. Could be this POS

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100001964854765&sk=info

[AnnieBW]

30. Already scrubbed.

I wonder what his FR handle is?

[Altoid_Cyclist]

35. That didn't take long.

His profile photo was the teabag "Don't Tread on Me" flag and his interests were all involving the tea party.

I expect that to be scrubbed by the corporate media also.

[Devil_Fish]

39. How Orwellian... NT

[Crowman1979]

17. I bet you 1000% that he's a god damn Teabagger/Glenn Beck cult member!

[h3x0g3n]

41. I highly doubt it

Considering most conservatives would have a hard time rationalizing the murder of a blue dog who voted for securing the border and is pro-gun.

[yurbud]

18. no matter what the stumblefuckery of Dems, demographics are against conservatives so this will

become common as their numbers shrink and they can't win at the ballot box.

Democrats shooting themselves in the foot and giving the GOP a few more victories is only delaying the inevitable.

When the rich can't fool enough of the people to win elections, they go Pinochet as necessary.

[Historic NY]

19. Shooter Jared Lee Loughner........

http://www.businessinsider.com/jared-lee-loughner-2011-1\\

he has posted on you tube....complete with picture



http://twitpic.com/3o8gad

[newspeak]

21. hmmmm. talks about people not being literate in the eighth district

I wonder if he's talking about those brown people. Faux said something about his website and people not being literate or speaking english. Sounds teabaggish to me.

[joshcryer]

24. edit: n/m, I watched a YouTube video of his where he's clearly mentally disturbed

[kudzu22]

28. I saw those too -- very strange

Talks about mind control, brainwashing, "conscience dreaming", dreams being currency, constitution, and BCE/ADE years. He sounds like he's fifteen kinds of crazy.

[queerart]

20. Saw This On The Web....

Not sure if it is the same person or not.....



http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/u/1/nHoaZaLbqB4

[joshcryer]

25. Disturbing.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

26. I think this is a different video...

once again very disturbing. He's wearing a mask and proceeds to set the flag on fire.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/f/0/3L1lsLU-kUw

[LawnKorn]

27. Huffington Post has him as Jared Lee Loughner, age 22

From the Huffington Post

Loughner was described by eyewitnesses at the Arizona shooting as a young white man who looked like a "fringe character," in his mid-to-late 20s, clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing.

Someone who is 22, short haired, clean-shaven with a gun has to be a TeaBagger. Loughner was probably inspired by talk radio and worshiped Sarah Palin.

[ncdemclt]

33. At least you have all the facts n/t

[The abyss]

29. I have to wonder....

how many of the dead and wounded were hit by return fire from the security detail.

" a man apparently stood up in the crowd during the town hall meeting, shouted something and then opened fire. Someone - possibly police or security - then shot at the gunman."

[benEzra]

32. Probably none...

but it remains to be seen. Of course, it remains to be seen if the reports of return fire were accurate as well. Given the dynamic nature of a story like this, a lot of hearsay gets reported that later turns out to be mistaken.

[The abyss]

34. I was thinking of Huey Long

Long long ago (late 60s maybe) it was debated if Huey was not actually gunned down by his own security boyz during the free for all around the elevator cage.

History sometimes catches up in the most odd manner.

As you said we will have to wait and see what is reported and was observed.

[timo]

37. weird

his favorite books are listed..the communist manifesto? and pictures of him helping at a public book fair? I wouldve expected palins books and becks books to be on his list, not mein kampf and siddartha

[DeSwiss]

38. K&R

The shooter:

JARED LEE LOUGHNER

"According to the latest reports this crime does not seem to be an act of cogent political activism but to have been perpetrated by a person of questionable mental stability. The Greater Phoenix Tea Party Patriots condemn, in the strongest possible terms, all violence against any public official as well as any other person, especially innocent children. — Eric Moriarty, spokesman for the Greater Phoenix Tea Party

http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-news/2011/01/08/reaction-to-gifffords-shooting/

- Sir, anyone who is a member of the Tea Party is a person of "questionable mental stability."