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Still a Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:17 PM
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Arizona Suspected Gunman Passed FBI Background Check (Faux)
Source: Fox News

New details emerging about the suspected shooter behind Saturday's deadly rampage reveal a 22-year-old man with a troubled past who law enforcement say may have been influenced by American Renaissance, a pro-white publication.

And FoxNews.com has learned that the suspect purchased a firearm legally — and after passing an FBI background check — from Sportsman's Warehouse's Tucson store in November, the company's vice president of hunting operations told FoxNews.com.

Loughner did not present a concealed weapons permit so he was required to pass an FBI background check, which he did "immediately and without incident," said Matt French, speaking from the Sportsman's Warehouse's Utah headquarters.

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Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/09/arizona-suspected-gunman-no-stranger-to-trouble/#
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:19 PM
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1. So it is the FBI's fault
Thanks for clearing that up for me, FOX.
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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:19 PM
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2. Does the TSA run the background checks too? LAME FOLKS!
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AC_Mem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:21 PM
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3. See how easy it is to kill someone
When you have such easy access to purchasing a gun?

I am interested to see when he had his "trouble" with the law. I've heard that he made threats that the law was aware of.

Was this before his gun purchase or after?

We can see his thought process as of October 15, when he started posting his bizarre YouTube videos. He was planning it then. His last post was end of December with activity December 15.

Right in the middle of all that, he purchased his weapon, without incident.

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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:16 PM
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18. Problem is this is a federal check
Local authorities might know of threats but it will never be in the Fed system.

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:50 PM
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4. He supposedly had previous arrests--for what, I'd like to know...
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:08 PM
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5. Arizona Suspected Gunman Passed FBI Background Check
Source: Fox News

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And FoxNews.com has learned that the suspect purchased a firearm legally — and after passing an FBI background check — from Sportsman's Warehouse's Tucson store in November, the company's vice president of hunting operations told FoxNews.com.

Loughner did not present a concealed weapons permit so he was required to pass an FBI background check, which he did "immediately and without incident," said Matt French, speaking from the Sportsman's Warehouse's Utah headquarters.

"To my knowledge, the firearm purchase was without incident," French said.

He could not confirm whether the gun purchased in November was the same gun allegedly used in Saturday's mass shooting, but said it was the only recent firearm purchase made by the suspect at their stores.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/09/arizona-suspected-gunman-no-stranger-to-trouble/



Interesting info on the parents in article.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:08 PM
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6. so people can purchase semiautomatics
and it is legal??? :hi:

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:08 PM
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:08 PM
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10. Quite as many others have tried to explain to you in other threads
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:08 PM
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12. this post was not in any other threads
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:08 PM
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14. You certainly questioned why autos and later semi autos were available
Explanations were plentiful there, if you had bothered to read
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:13 PM
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16. different question then what I asked
on the other post......
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:15 PM
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17. Most firearms are semi-automatic.
Semi-automatic simply means that the weapon has a mechanism which automatically chambers the next round after one is fired. This is generally a recoil-operated mechanism; a round is fired, the slide is driven back by the recoil, opening the chamber, the spent cartridge is ejected, and a fresh round (if there's one in the clip) is chambered. And yes, it's legal. Fully automatic weapons are restricted and have been since the 1934 National Firearms Act (which was designed to regulate weapons used by organised crime, most notably the Thompson submachine gun).
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:08 PM
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7. Similar to the Virginia Tech shooting...
...mental health issues identified by a university not passed on to authorities.

We may need to rethink this issue. True, most people with mental illness inflict violence only upon themselves, but we need to start recognizing that violence as a loss too.

Privacy, safety and mental illness, a very difficult subject.
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:08 PM
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13. ONE IN TEN persons in the USA have mental health problems,
ONE IN TEN, just think about that for a minute or two. ONE IN TEN, they are all around you. ONE IN TEN, driving with you on the roads. ONE IN TEN, working with you. ONE IN TEN, in your family. ONE IN TEN, we will be judged on how we treat them. ONE IN TEN, they are us.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:12 PM
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15. 20-40% of schizophrenics attempt suicide, up to 10% succeed.
This is not about "judging" people, this is about saving them.
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:08 PM
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8. You can buy firearms about as easy as you can buy tacos in Arizona.
Color me not surprised.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:08 PM
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11. False as to fact
Arizona has similar restrictions to most other states, the bulk of which are defined in Federal law
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 10:18 PM
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26. Wrong, I can get tacos at 3am at a drive through.
Los Betos FTW!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:29 PM
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19. But he couldn't enlist in the Army due to drug use
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 04:29 PM by underpants
Geesh!
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bossy22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:54 PM
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20. if that is the case, then technically he could not purchase a firearm either
the issue is that NICS (the federal agency that handles gun background checks) did not have that information in their database.

Illicit drug users are prohibited from possessing or owning a firearm according to federal law- the catch is the only way the database will have that info is if you are convicted of such in a court of law. Welcome to a society that cherishes "innocent until proven guilty"
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:57 PM
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22. He must have lied on the paperwork when he bought the gun
Not surprising considering that he was also willing to murder innocent people.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 05:05 PM
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23. They don't do a urine test when you buy a gun
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 05:08 PM
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24. A few among us would probably approve of requiring one
Just like people on the right who would drug-test welfare recipients.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:56 PM
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21. Well I don't think it's quite fair to condemn a whole program because of a single slip up
The background check system generally works very well.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 09:51 PM
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25. Yeah. That guy at Virginia Tech, well, he was an exception.
>The background check system generally works very well.<

Oh, absolutely. I'll bet the 32 VT families that had an empty place at the holiday table again this year think so, too.

The grandmother who gunned down her entire family in Seattle a few months back - exception!

The guys who shot 4 people in the park on Seattle's Eastside - exception!

The guy who gunned down a couple of cops in the Pittsburgh area - exception!

I can cite examples all day long. The background system works as long as names are correctly spelled and SOMEONE reports that the person attempting to buy a gun has already threatened others...

:eyes:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 03:59 AM
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27. recommend
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 02:38 PM
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28.  Most of the Arizona law makers (moral law breakers)
are gun nuts and are supported by the right wing racist in this state of confused citizens.
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