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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:01 PM
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Jared Loughner unable to enlist in Army because of drug use
Source: Washington Post

Jared Lee Loughner the suspect in Saturday's mass shooting in Tucson, was rejected from enlistment in the U.S. Army because of issues related to his history of drug use, military officials said Sunday.

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In Loughner's case, it appears that his drug use was the problem, and he has a prior drug-related conviction. A military official who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to disclose the information said Loughner failed an aspect of the drug inquiry, though it was unclear if it was the urinalysis or other questioning that blocked his entrance. It is unlikely that someone who failed the drug portion of the examinations would have gone on to have more extensive testing, such as a psychological evaluation.



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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:06 PM
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1. Yeah, me and my buddies were just at the bar last night
...getting sloshed....

and saying what a pot-head that MF'r is!

<sheesh>
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:06 PM
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2. That's not hard. Just answer in the affirmative to the question:
Have you EVER, even one time, used an illegal substance including marijuana?

I wouldn't even pass. Doesn't mean much.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:09 PM
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3. But yet was able to pass a FBI background check with flying colors.
I still find this odd. His drug and arrest record was a red flag for the military, but no hindrance whatsoever to buying a handgun. This is just not something that makes sense to me.
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kd7gkn Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:18 PM
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5. Handguns.
So true. People driving around with bumper stickers saying "Guns don't kill people. I do" are just so ignorant.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:21 PM
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6. Because no urineanalysis required to buy a gun n/t
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:26 PM
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8. He has a drug-related conviction.
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 04:31 PM by Barack_America
And arrests for several other issues.

I believe these pre-date his application for the Army and I know they pre-date his application for a weapon.

ETA: Perhaps he doesn't have a conviction as was earlier reported. He may have completed a drug program in order to have the conviction wiped away.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/08/arizona-shooting-suspects-record-showed-minor-offenses/
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:36 PM
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12. Yes I read the charges were dropped
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:26 PM
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7. good point
Was he arrested or convicted? If he was convicted and bought the pistol from a dealer (vs individual) either a)the kid gave false information b)NCIC gave the wrong information or c)someone is losing his FFL and start looking for a good defense lawyer.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:16 PM
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4. So does this mean that.....
...Obama can't be the CIC???

- Maybe they grandfathered him in.......

K&R
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:28 PM
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9. But he passed an FBI background check to buy the gun
the Army didn't trust him with a weapon but Arizona and the FBI were fine with it
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:34 PM
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10. I don't know anything about military requirements
but it's possible they didn't think he was qualified to do any number of tasks, not just "didn't trust him with a weapon"

I can see any number of possibilities for letting someone have a gun, but not wanting them in the military. Doesn't need to be a mutually exclusive situation.
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:35 PM
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11. I wonder if in 2007 he had been accepted, recruiting standards were low back then
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:22 AM
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nalnn Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 09:57 AM
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16. No
The drug related requirements have been as stringent as this since at least 2003.
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BWCL Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 10:00 AM
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17. wow
this seems a little harsh.
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nalnn Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 10:50 AM
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18. Confused
You mean the requirements or my response?
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