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fatbuckel Donating Member (518 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 03:54 PM
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Fox News CEO Roger Ailes: Fox And 'The Other Side' Need To Tone Down Rhetoric
Source: Huffington Post

Fox News CEO Roger Ailes said that he has told his network to "tone it down" in the wake of the shooting in Arizona, and that he hopes the "other side" will do so as well.

Ailes' comments appeared in a conversation with Russell Simmons that was published on Simmons' website, Global Grind. He said that any attempts to connect Fox News or the Tea Party to the shooting were "bullshit," and that "both sides" were responsible for extreme rhetoric.

But Ailes did say that he had issued a warning to Fox News staff.

"I told all of our guys, shut up, tone it down, make your argument intellectually," Ailes said. You don't have to do it with bombast. I hope the other side does that."

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/10/fox-news-ceo-roger-ailes-_n_806952.html
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 03:56 PM
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1. hey Roger-dodger: F/U! YOU & yr on-air lunatics need to
"tone it down"!
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 08:31 PM
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58. I call bullshit, hypocites!
nt
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 03:56 PM
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2. So does that mean when Beck doesnt turn it down
they will fire his ass?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 03:56 PM
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3. "make your argument intellectually"
This I'd like to see.
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:01 PM
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6. Will they actually bring live crickets in the studio
or lay an audio track over the newsfeed?
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:05 PM
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9. Hannity will become a mute
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:06 PM
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10. That would be a nice late Christmas present.
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forty6 Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:25 PM
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15. Pretty impossible task for someone like Palin or Beck or O'Reilly!
Little of intellect in any of those bozo's
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Iliyah Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:56 PM
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32. Its hard
for the gop aka tea bats and plus the media who help fuel the rhetoric to stop. They are the new nazis.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:18 PM
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39. LOL - like that can possibly work
On second thought, he didn't say "honestly", so it will just be kinder gentler lies. But I won't hold my breath.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 10:19 PM
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62. it's an oxyMORON, like the morans at Faux
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 03:57 PM
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4. While I applaud him for telling his staff to tone it down,
fuck him and his fallacy of false equivalency.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:02 PM
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8. +1
and Fox News toning it down? I'll believe it when I see it.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:16 PM
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13. At least he told us that he told his staff to tone it down
Whatever the hell that means. But it does appear to follow logically (hey, a new word for Ailes!) that by so saying, he's admitting that Fox is indeed part of the apparatus grinding away every day to maintain a certain level of anger, frustration, and incipient violence. Only when it boils over does Ailes seem to acknowledge that he and his network need to tone it down.

I'm pretty sure I'm reading his remarks right; the question is, will anyone else in the Media Village read Ailes' remarks that way?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 09:06 AM
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66. If and when we see them actually tone it down permanently, we'll know if he winked or not.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 03:57 PM
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5. Surprise me Ro-Ro... really surprise me.
I'm ripe for a shock, so show me this toned down FixedNewz... Please!
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:01 PM
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7. But I thought we on the other side
were the unfair and unbalanced.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:10 PM
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11. Fox, you start first...and when you finally get to where the left is ...then
we will start toning down...
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:11 PM
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12. Go fuck yourself Jabba. How's that? nt
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:23 PM
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14. Some where Rodger Ailes is secretly
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 04:24 PM by AsahinaKimi
Jumping for joy because all this violence against the Left is NEWS and making him money. Its HIS gladiatorial games, and he is drooling for MORE. You want a true life VAMPIRE? Its Ailes sucking the blood from the public marrow.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:25 PM
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16. I'm not toning a damned thing down. Fuck you, you disgusting toadie.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:26 PM
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17. When was the last time Rachel Maddow told viewers to kill someone? nt
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 10:20 PM
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63. and when did KO put up a map with gunsights and ask his viewers to RELOAD in cap letters?
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 10:57 AM
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68. It was about the same time Al Franken said we should use 2nd Amendment remedies. nt
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:32 PM
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18. Ailes' rhetoric is frequently as bad as his nutty pundits.
He wouldn't know extremist rhetoric if it bit him in the ass.
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:33 PM
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19. Yeah, NPR, you REALLY need to tone it down. Ya hear me, Scott
Simon and Susan Stamberg?!?!?!
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 10:22 PM
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64. I dunno, Gwnn Ifill and Jim Lehrer are really rabble rousing radicals
:sarcasm:
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:34 PM
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20. The fact that Ailes had to say "...shut up, tone it down..."
tells you everything you need to know about their culpability. The last part, "...make your arguments intellectually" exposes them to the question, "Doesn't that imply that "bombast" was rampant in your newsroom, including the use of violent rhetoric?"
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:41 PM
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25. yeah, too bad the FCC doesn't have a "tone down the
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 04:42 PM by katty
aiding, promoting and abetting of terrorists" massive $$ FINE for Roger & his gang. If they did, this kind of crap would stop-and his idiot rightwing bobbleheads would be out of jobs. the bottom line is $$$$$$.
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forty6 Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:41 PM
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26. PRECISELY !!!! This is just like Sarah Palin taking down her web pages
and erasing her tweet..."don't retreat, RELOAD"

They ALL KNOW they are guilty, and they don't wanna be caught saying stuff.

But with the internet, and Youtube, and the magic of video recordings, we have all this stuff stored for posterity, the evidence cannot be erased.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:44 PM
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29. nope, it can't and Sarah EARNS HER BIG$$$ by the
piss that spews from her ignorant, vicious self.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:35 PM
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21. IS there "another side?"
Looking at the airwaves, the television screens, and the front pages of major dailies, I don't think so...

Why are you talking at dead air, Rog? To hear the lovely sound of your own thick, phlegmy, gloating, smug, evil voice?

Thought so.

dismissively,
Bright
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:38 PM
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22. What is this asshole talking about with "the other side" ?
more both sides do it bs
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:40 PM
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23. LOL. Is Fox News finally admitting they're on a "Side", and not "Fair and Balanced"?
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forty6 Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:43 PM
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27. Sure looks like that. Actually they admit that every day on the air, and
have made several slips like this over the past few months, where they are unusually honest.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:46 PM
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51. Nice catch. (nt)
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:41 PM
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24. Maybe Ailes needs to tell Murdoch to have a chat with Beck
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 04:41 PM by ProSense
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:43 PM
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28. He wants Republicans to make arguments intellectually?
Does he know who he has working on his network? That is impossible.

:rofl:
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:25 PM
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43. Are you saying Steve Doucy isn't an intellectual?
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:53 PM
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30. "Roger Ailes openly admits Fox News Bias"
Bwahahahaha!!! :rofl:
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 06:35 PM
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52. Fox "was created to counter a perceived liberal bias in the media"
Their original mission statement containing those exact words or close enough to not matter. One can't find their mission statement any longer, since they claim to be balanced...
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:54 PM
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31. Doesn't he mean ClearChannel?
As the other side? I mean Rush competes for ratings with them, doesn't he?
SURELY, that's what he meant.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:56 PM
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33. Tone WHAT down?
They need to be more specific. They're the bombastic ones.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:57 PM
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35. Apparently they've been too aggressively "fair and balanced".
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:15 PM
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37. Yeah, Why would they have to tone down fairness?
They are just chock full of fair and balancey.

Now I'm confused. Maybe if I tune into Fox, they can report and then I'll decide.
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Roy Rolling Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #37
50. The new Fox Network rant...
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 05:42 PM by Roy Rolling
I'M FAIR AND BALANCED AS HELL AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:27 PM
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44. They're about as "balanced" as the shooter
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 04:57 PM
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34. The other side--He admits Fox is biased and republican
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:25 PM
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42. He's also apparently acknowledging
Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 05:27 PM by Liberalynn
that so far intellectualism hasn't been a part of his anchors' skill sets so far.

Good luck with that changing anytime in this century.
:sarcasm:
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:00 PM
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36. Who is "The other side?"
Oh, you mean "the sane?"
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:16 PM
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38. We're fair and balanced but you "on the other side"
An open admission they have taken sides......
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:18 PM
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40. Fox ... the "Pro-Life murderer" comfort zone .... O'Reilly targeting Dr. Tiller ... !!!
Yeah -- this right wing push for violent only began yesterday -- !!!


:nuke:

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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:20 PM
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41. Good luck wiping that sneer off of Megyn Kelly's face.
It's frozen there now.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:28 PM
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45. She's the UGLIEST beautiful woman I've ever seen!
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:32 PM
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47. She was making faces at the Sheriff yesterday
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:30 PM
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46. The other side says to go fuck yourself.
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pezDispenser Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:33 PM
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48. I though Fox News was 'fair and balanced'
meaning they didn't take a side. What gives?
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Still a Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #48
60. ***Excellent point****
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 05:40 PM
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49. I believe they bear the greater responsibility
and should tone down their rhetoric to "inaudible". The almost certain result would be civil discourse by all.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 06:39 PM
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53. Name the otherside we know you are not a simplton.
So he admits that HIS side was working people over to eventually go out and kill someone - thanks Ailes...you've got a little blood on your hands there. Now, quick, name the Lefty side that does the same as you and has blood on their hands...waiting...waiting...

Republicans have blood on their hands and they can't stand the fact that the Democratic Party has none.

Must suck to get no sleep from guilt.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 07:40 PM
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54. ailes -show me where our side condones the murder of the rightwing?
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 07:40 PM
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55. ailes is a fat disgusting asshole
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 07:41 PM
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56. Translation: Keep saying the same stuff, just make it sound a little better
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 07:47 PM
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57. Fux is the one that needs to tone theirs down.
Do we threaten judges and senators? No.

Do we make threats against their leaders? No.

Do we hold protests that feature violent, racist imagery? No.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 09:06 PM
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59. Fox tells hens to stop clucking in a threatening way when he is sneaking around the henhouse..
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 10:18 PM
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61. yadda yadda, and the NRA responds with prayers. What lunatics
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0111/NRA_spokesman_offers_prayers_for_victims.html

NRA spokesman offers prayers for victims - Ben Smith: NRA spokesman offers prayers for victims
January 10, 2011

NRA spokesman offers prayers for victims

In the aftermath of the Giffords shooting, the Brady Campaign and others have been arguing that the Glock used by Jared Loughner would have been banned under the Brady Bill, which expired in 2004. Paul Helmke, the president of the Brady Campaign, told the New York Times that the weapon was only good for "killing and injuring a lot of people quickly.”

When asked about the role that the Brady Bill repeal had played in the shooting. the National Rifle Association's spokesman Andrew Arulanandam told POLITICO "Anything other than prayers for the victims and their families at this time would be inappropriate."
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-11 10:25 PM
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65. Really, Roggg?!1 n/t
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 09:14 AM
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67. What's the 'other side' of 'False'?
"Truth" -- for those new to the subject.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:19 PM
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69. nevah mind...
Edited on Tue Jan-11-11 01:19 PM by Arugula Latte
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savalez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:42 PM
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70. Interesting open letter to Fox and associates
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 02:31 PM
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71. Transparently doing this for business and liability reasons.
And as a legitimate news channel just why wouldn't they have been making their arguments 'intellectually' all along?

:crazy:
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buckrogers1965 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 03:25 AM
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72. Yeah!
NPR and Democracy Now needs to tone down their message of hate and violence... Oh, wait...

The only side engaged in hateful rhetoric are the right wing nut jobs.

I am a conservative, as far as I can tell Obama and Bush have 100% identical policies as President. I didn't approve of Bushs policies. I don't approve of Obamas.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 10:33 AM
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73. How is there an "other side" if Fox is "fair and balanced?"
Ailes seems to have made a little Freudian slip.
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faz Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 10:37 AM
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74. He knew his network is guilty of promoting violence
Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 10:37 AM by faz
That's why the "tone down" thingy.

Shame on you ! guilty!
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 10:38 AM
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75. Interesting that he doesn't deny it, and the both sides nonsense will
be agreed upon by how many Democrats in power?? That is one concern for me, end this lie there exists a Palin, Beck, Limpbaugh
or Savage on the left.
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faz Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 10:43 AM
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76. How could they make their argument intellectually if they are so full of
HATE
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 03:40 PM
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77. Wait...I am confused....
I thought Fox was once sued for libel and they said their news was not real news or was it that they didn't have to tell the facts and still be news????

So what are they doing presenting themselves as the news.

Where is the FCC?
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