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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 06:37 PM
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Koran-protest US pastor Terry Jones excluded from UK
Source: BBC

Controversial US pastor Terry Jones has been excluded from the UK for the public good, the Home Office has said.

The pastor had been invited to the UK to give an address to the right-wing group England Is Ours in Milton Keynes.

Mr Jones gained international attention for threatening to burn a copy of the Koran outside his church in the US on the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

A Home Office spokesperson said the government "opposes extremism in all its forms".



Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12231832
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 06:38 PM
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1. Will he burn a Union Jack flag now??
I wish some other country would take him and keep him!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 06:38 PM
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2. Can We Exclude Him Here, Too?
He can live 12 miles offshore--a man without a country.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 08:02 PM
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4. "This town needs and enema" nt
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 07:11 PM
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3. Plays well in the press;
But it plays right into the jingoists' hands, on both sides of the 'pond.'
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 06:16 AM
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6. "Plays well in the press"?
The reason for that is that it is a decision supported by the majority
of people rather than (for example) an illegal arse-covering exercise
designed to keep an ex-Prime Minister out of jail.

Nobody cares that it "plays right into the jingoists' hands" as people
are fed up with having to suffer all kinds of sh*t for the sake of not
offending that tiny minority of bigots.

We have enough small-minded fascists here already (e.g., some in Milton
Keynes from the sound of it) so there is absolutely no need to import
any more for the sole purpose of sh*t-stirring.
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delete_bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 08:39 PM
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5. Good for them. Several years ago I would
have opposed such censorship.

Now, I couldn't care less.

They also banned Michael the Savage Weenie. Another good call.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 07:23 AM
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7. UK bans ‘Koran burning’ pastor
Source: Euronews

An American preacher who threatened a mass public burning of the Koran has been banned from entering the UK.

Pastor Terry Jones provoked international outrage when he organised the stunt to coincide with the anniversary of the September 11 attacks last year. Pressured by the White House, he eventually called off the mass burning.

Jones had been invited to speak at rallies organised by the small far-right group “England Is Ours.” But the Home Office has prevented him entering the country. A spokesman said:

“The government opposes extremism in all its forms which is why we have excluded Pastor Terry Jones from the UK. Numerous comments made by Pastor Jones are evidence of his unacceptable behaviour.


Read more: http://www.euronews.net/2011/01/20/uk-bans-koran-burning-pastor/
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 07:23 AM
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8. Dude you have no visa! ... eom
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 07:23 AM
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9. Playing devil's advocate: but just how many inflammatory imams has the UK allowed in?
Answer: More than you would think.


The imam of the Grand Mosque of Mecca, Abdur Rahman as-Sudais is currently on a tour of Britain. He is known as the man who leads prayers observed by two million followers during the time of the Hajj pilgramage. Al-Sudais’ repurposes allegorical references to the Jewish tribes of Mecca from the Quran and converts them into supercilious anti-semitic hate sermons for the consumption of his followers.

Here is an example from the al-Haramain Sermons website:

Read the history to know that yesterday’s Jews are evil predecessors and today’s Jews are worse successors. They an ingrate people, they altered God’s words, worshipped calf, killed Messengers and denied their Messages. They are exiled people and the worst of mankind. Allaah cursed them and cast His wrath upon them. He turned some of them to monkeys and pigs and worshippers of creatures. They are worst in position and are astray from the right path.

History of Jews is full of deception, trickery, rebellion, oppression, evil and corruption. They always seek to cause mischief on the earth and Allaah loves not the mischief-makers. ... Sudais has made no secret of his support of Hamas. In another sermon (recorded on the al-Haramain Sermons site), he praised the Hamas leader Ahmed Yassin, after he was killed by the IDF, as a “martyr” and exhorted “blessed Jihaad”...

On Wednesday Sudais led prayers at the al-Tawhid Mosque in Leyton. On Thursday he addressed a meeting in Banbury Town Hall. Conservative MP Tony Baldry was a fellow speaker. Yesterday he spoke at the Green Lane Mosque in Birmingham. Next Tuesday he will lead prayers at the East London Mosque.

As you can see, Sudais’ itinerary is studded with a number of prominent British mosques and Islamic centres all eager to play the fawning host to this scion of the Saudi-Wahhabi establishment. None of this is overtly surprising. In fact the Islamist sclerosis within certain parts of the British muslim community has now passed into such an advanced stage that the admission of a Saudi hate-preacher almost goes unnoticed. After all, this is is not the first time the East London Mosque (ELM) has hosted a senior Saudi cleric who also happen to be an exponent of sectarian bigotry. Only a few months ago the ELM welcomed Sheikh Adil al-Kalbani whose anti-Shia and anti-semitic statements were met with worldwide condemnation... http://www.spittoon.org/archives/2061
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 10:19 AM
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11. As a skeptic, I find it laughable that people would read his sermons and believe it
But this sht isn't funny.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 08:49 AM
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10. He had already agreed not to breach our Race hate laws
on the basis of which they might as well have let him in.

Hate speech laws in the United Kingdom are found in several statutes. Expressions of hatred toward someone on account of that person's colour, race, nationality (including citizenship), ethnic or national origin, religion, or sexual orientation is forbidden.<1><2><3> Any communication which is threatening, abusive or insulting, and is intended to harass, alarm, or distress someone is forbidden.<4> The penalties for hate speech include fines, imprisonment, or both.<5>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_the_United_Kingdom

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