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harvey007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 05:24 AM
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Boulder considers lowering fluoride levels in drinking water
Source: Daily Camera

Boulder officials are considering lowering the level of fluoride in the city's drinking water supply, following new recommendations from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

The federal office announced earlier this month that fluoride levels in drinking water should be set to lower levels while the agency reviews its guidelines amid concerns that some people are being exposed to too much of the compound that helps prevent tooth decay.

Read more: http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_17142196
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 05:28 AM
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1. Your not going to believe this.
Many cavities are caused by dentist and that sharp pokey tool they use.

That is why some children have many cavities, and others none in school.

I know some dentist do that.

Do you really think that people could not grow up for a decade or two without the teeth being able to survive without cavities.

Check the cavity rates of youngsters in countries where there is less dental care.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 05:45 AM
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 06:14 AM
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4. one thing i'll say about your posts... you always make me want to comment.
I usually refrain.

So, my brother and I both went to the same dentist and traded off on hygenists when we were kids. I had 1 cavity my whole life and he had at least 10. My mom and dad went to the same place. My mom has cavities almost every time she goes to the dentist, my dad never has them.

I would proffer a wager that it's not the pokey tool.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 12:59 AM
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10. There is a dentist in Fircrest Washington.
Edited on Fri Jan-21-11 01:02 AM by RandomThoughts
It is a small town near Tacoma.

There is a dentist there, that does that exact thing.

I went 13 years without going to a dentist, no cavities, I went to that guy, I could feel him pushing on a tooth with that pointy tool as he said that I should have wisdom teeth pulled even though their is room for them. He said they should be pulled pulled because I wouldn't be able to clean them properly.

Literally while he was saying that, I could feel him pushing with that tool, and even having it pulled out then hitting then pushing on side of my check when he pulled out the pokey thing from pushing on that tooth.

Three months later I had a cavity on that side of that tooth. And on one other tooth.

I have not gone back to a dentist (after having those two teeth taken care of) and again have not had any cavities.

It may not have been the pokey tool for you, and may not be every dentist, but I know for a fact, that at least one of the 3 dentist I went to in my life over the years did that exact thing.

You can't win that bet, based on my experiences, I know that is true for some dentist.


Refrain?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzY0VuS2pc0
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 02:43 AM
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15. I'll agree with you about the wisdom teeth.
They told me I'd need them out by 18 and I'm almost 32 now. I still have them and no pain. Cavities? None that cause any pain.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 07:45 AM
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6. Correlation and causation aren't the same thing.
Edited on Thu Jan-20-11 07:46 AM by JoeyT
Countries that have more dental care also tend to eat more sweets and eat them more consistently throughout the day. It doesn't take a pick or scaler to make cavities when you're soaking your teeth in syrup for sixteen hours a day.

The difference in the number of cavities kids have in school is usually determined by a few variables: Diet, nutrition, hygiene, and general health. (Excessive sugar consumption, malnutrition, not brushing, and whole slew of health problems like acid reflux respectively.)
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 07:48 AM
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7. Why have health care then? Your logic doesn't make sense.
> Many cavities are caused by dentist and that sharp pokey tool they use.
> Check the cavity rates of youngsters in countries where there is less dental care.

You're suggesting the less dental care leads to a high incidence of cavities.

But once the decay gets past the enamel, the chances of cavity formation go up. The dental probing reveals areas that are *already* compromised. By your logic, we may as well not have any health care because the incidence of ailments goes up. the likelihood is that the ailment is already there.

Check out the volunteer dentistry that takes place especially in third-world areas.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 01:12 AM
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11. No I am saying that every group has some bad and some good.
From my experiences, dentist created cavities, not sweets. Might not be the same for everyone. And I don't think it is all dentist, but there was a dentist that did that, so I assume some do.

It might seem a bit reversed, but from my experiences that's how it worked.
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 09:07 AM
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9. Hahahah;
That's real funny. Forgot the sarcasm icon once again. You should get a gig on Leno's show.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 10:36 AM
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12. ROFL
:spray:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 05:58 AM
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3. For those who don't follow the link in the OP:
But some opponents of fluoride argue that people are being over-exposed to it, which can lead to adverse health effects such as teeth staining and reduced tooth enamel.

Read more: Boulder considers lowering fluoride levels in drinking water - Boulder Daily Camera http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_17142196#ixzz1BZWCOHqF
DailyCamera.com
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 06:42 AM
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5. Purity Of Essence
Peace On Earth
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 08:58 AM
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8. I find something interesting about all this

Why no mention of the explosion in the use of whitening toothpaste, gels, mouthwashes and dental procedures?

My city doesn't have fluorinated water. I used whitening toothpaste and started getting white spots on my teeth so I stopped using it. It didn't take long for the spots to disappear.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 11:14 AM
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13. Ice cream, Mandrake...Children's ice cream...
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Fokker Trip Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 11:45 AM
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14. Europe is virtually fuoride free.
Europe is virtually fluoride free. Why is that do you suppose? They also have not embraced GMO food with the same zeal as North America.

Sodium Fluoride is a toxic waste by product of the nuclear industry, how convenient for them that it is dumped into water supplies rather than costing them a lot of money to get rid of somehow.

Where is the evidence to suggest that it stops cavities?
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