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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 07:58 PM
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Obama defends Roe v. Wade on its anniversary
Source: The Hill

President Obama on Saturday defended the landmark 1973 Supreme Court case that declared that laws banning abortion violate the Constitution's implicit right to privacy on the 38th anniversary of that decision. In a statement, he recommitted himself to protecting Roe v. Wade from being eroded.

Pro-choice Obama is facing calls by the new House Republican majority to sign new laws that would limit access to abortion.

House Republicans on Thursday introduced two bills that seek to prohibit taxpayer funding of abortions. The first bill, the No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act, seeks to establish a permanent, government-wide prohibition on federal subsidies for abortion and for healthcare plans that cover abortion. The second bill the GOP leadership is backing is the Protect Life Act, which seeks to rewrite provisions of the healthcare reform law to ensure that it does not allow for taxpayer funding of abortion.

“Today marks the 38th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court decision that protects women’s health and reproductive freedom, and affirms a fundamental principle: that government should not intrude on private family matters,” Obama said.

“I am committed to protecting this constitutional right,” he said. . .

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/139491-obama-defends-roe-v-wade-on-its-anniversary
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 08:12 PM
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1. Abortion is a constitutional right? What about the right to be born? asks conservatives.
Haha, my subject line is the dumbass cliched Tim Tebow commercial logic that'll be droned on and on among right-wingers the next several weeks. But good for Obama. I heard about this on NPR, and I'm glad that Obama is also supportive of family planning and reproductive FREEDOM that's the root of the pro-choice position too!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 08:51 PM
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2. What is amazing is that the repukes have no desire to help those who have been born. /nt
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 10:50 PM
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4. It is so amazing,,,,,,
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 03:13 PM
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18. This is why the two sides can't understand each other
You tell this to a fundie and she will not even answer you. She'll just shake her head and tell her friends she met another ignorant socialist today.

You see, fundies are the most likely people to adopt kids, even special needs kids and other race kids. Fundie volunteers man the local food banks and crisis pregnancy centers. Churches adopt homes of poor people to fix up each April.

Thousands of churches run daycare centers budgeting a loss year after year because the community needs it.

As percent of their income they donate more to charity, and they volunteer amazingly more hours of their time. The charities are also different. While liberals are more likely to donate to the community theatre, local fundies are more likely to donate their time to the local old clothes drive.

When you say what you said, you mean the Repubs won't support more government support for one government program or another. They believe they are commanded to help, but as individuals, not as a government.

You see them as cruel and uncaring for not supporting an increase in the school lunch budget. That argument doesn't even make sense to them.

Jesus didn't organize marches on Caesaria for an increase in the bread dole. The Good Samaritan didn't call for other people's taxes to be raised so a road patrol could help stranded travellers. Jesus said when I was naked you clothed me. It was Scrooge who said are there no government poorhouses?

It's really very difficult for two sides to even talk to each other when they misunderstand each other so greatly.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 01:15 PM
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 09:13 PM
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3. My daughter's birthday!!!
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 02:25 AM
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5. I'm pro-choice and anti-Roe vs. Wade
I believe there's no Constitutional right to an abortion, but favor a national abortion law. Pretty sure both sides hate me on this one.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 03:00 AM
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6. Really, you don't believe in the right to privacy between a "person" and their doctor? /nt
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:40 PM
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10. Sure I believe it
But not Constitutionally I don't. Kind of like I believe every person should get free internet, but there's no Constitutional right to it. I I was on the Supreme Court, I would have had to side with Wade.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 04:43 PM
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19. If the right to privacy isn't protected by the Constitution, they you have no right to privacy /nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:29 PM
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:40 PM
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11. Dupe
Edited on Sun Jan-23-11 12:40 PM by Ter
n/t
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 03:00 AM
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7. No, I actually have the same position
Claiming there is a Constitutional right to an abortion buried within the penumbra of the 14th Amendment is just making crap up.

The 14th Amendment made freed slaves citizens of the states they were born in. It didn't have anything to do with abortions.

There are in fact many pro-choice people who believe Roe versus Wade was wrongly decided.
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 04:02 AM
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8. explain that to me, I don't get it
nt
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 02:55 PM
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17. Think of it this way
My team won. I'm glad they won. I think they were the best team and would have won anyway.

But still I have to admit the umpire made the wrong call. The baserunner really was out.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

The Constitution says if something is not mentioned in the document, then it is up to each state legislature to make laws on the topic.

Abortion is not mentioned or even hinted at in the Constitution. There is no Constitutional right to an abortion under any common sense reading of the document. Just look at the mental calistenics the court had to go through to justify Roe versus Wade. The right is not there, but it lies hidden within the shadows of an amendment that had nothing to do with the subject at all.

Sorry.

I don't buy it. The court just made it up. They wanted abortion to be a right so they made it one.

I want abortion to be legal, but I want it done Constitutionally. That would be in laws written by the State Legislatures as the Constitution demands.





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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-11 02:49 AM
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22. how do you feel about Connecticut vs Griswold?
nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 06:06 AM
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9. Roe upheld the right to privacy, ie., to be free of government intrusion.
Edited on Sun Jan-23-11 06:06 AM by EFerrari
That is the constitutional right he's referring to, not abortion.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:42 PM
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12. Privacy is the worst argument anyone can make
I want to use steroids, but my government bans them. It's between my doctor and myself, isn't it? Don't I have that Constitutional right to privacy?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 02:48 PM
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16. Is that your way of admitting you made a mistake?
:)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 11:26 PM
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:45 PM
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13. where's that great quote by Barney Frank...
Edited on Sun Jan-23-11 12:45 PM by tigereye
Republicans believe that life begins at conception and ends at birth.



good for Obama. :thumbsup:
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 12:48 PM
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14. My 17 yr old neighbor is protesting RoeV Wade today
in Washington, with her "church" I have tried till I can not try any more to enlighten her to NO avail.
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