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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:06 PM
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(Rahm) Emanuel back on ballot
Source: Chicago Sun-Times

The Supreme Court of Illinois has ordered the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners to put Rahm Emanuel’s name back on the mayoral ballot, attorneys for Emanuel said Tuesday.

The court has not decided whether to hear Emanuel’s appeal of Monday’s Illinois Appellate Court ruling that tossed him out of the race to replace Mayor Daley. The Supreme Court granted Emanuel’s motion for a stay of the ruling, Emanuel attorney Mike Kasper said Tuesday.

The state appellate court ruled Monday that Emanuel did not meet the one-year residency requirement to run for mayor of Chicago.

Emanuel’s attorneys, heavily citing the dissenting opinion in that case, are hoping to convince the seven justices of the Illinois Supreme Court to allow Emanuel to run.

Read more: http://www.suntimes.com/3483600-417/emanuel-court-illinois-supreme-appellate.html



Those Chicagoans sure know how to have fun elections...
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:07 PM
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1. that was fast...
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:14 PM
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6. I hear he has "connections".
At least it'll keep him safely away from the WH and Washington for a bit longer.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:15 PM
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8. No, if he wins, he'll be a kingmaker
Edited on Tue Jan-25-11 01:16 PM by Ken Burch
Any Dem presidential candidate will have to kiss Rahm's ass to carry Illinois.

And the price Rahm will ALWAYS demand is "keep the activists out in the cold and put the rich first".

We DON'T need that.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:26 PM
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20. I can't imagine he'll win, but stranger things have happened.
His association with President Obama is only going to carry his corporate ass so far. Further, the whole "non-resident" thing is going to resonate with a lot of folks who stuck with their city through the hard times.

Then again, this is Chicago politics. All bets are off.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 06:03 PM
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46. I thought I heard that he's the front runner.
On NPR? yesterday, I think.
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:01 PM
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24. Exactly - the perpetual game too many politicians play
Its about the 3 C's - cronies, connections, and cash and big city politics. Why did Obama make him CoS?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 08:27 PM
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48. Why did Rahm make Obama President?
:tinfoilhat:
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:10 PM
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2. Nobody could foresee this coming....
...
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:11 PM
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3. I wonder how many political favors THIS is going to cost
:eyes:

Ahhh, Chicago politics...and a few arms and legs broken, a few bribes thrown around...love the smell of democracy in the morning!:bigpileofstinkingpoop:
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:12 PM
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4. First the Bears, then this.
Sorry, Chicago.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:21 PM
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14. BS. You can vote for him -- or not -- but it was unfair to dump him off the ballot.
He is a bona fide ILL resident, not a carpetbagger.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:22 PM
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15. I suppose with this ruling I probably could vote for him.
Even though I'm not a resident.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:13 PM
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5. Good!
Keeps him out of DC.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:14 PM
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7. Hopefully, the Illinois Supremes will do what's right
Rahm Emanuel doesn't deserve to have a political career anymore.

And Chicago doesn't need ANOTHER arrogant right-wing mayor.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:24 PM
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16. Shouldn't voters make that decision though?
Not judges. Keeping him off the ballot because he took a job in the administration for a couple of years seems bogus to me. He was a long time resident - it seems a no brainer to me that the Washington DC sojourn does not negate that.
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JJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:33 PM
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21. Statue
If the people want the city statute changed, they can petition their city council persons to change it.

This should be about laws and not what Rahm wants because the ruling can affect all the statues in the State, such as requiring judges to live in the community for 5 years before being allowed to serve on the bench. Or perhaps they want police officers to live within the city limits.

The statute seems to want a mayor to have a full year of residing within the city limits so they know the city issues.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:08 PM
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25. But there is disagreement about what the statute says and it looks to me as if the goal here is just
to use any means necessary to get Rahm off the ballot because his opponents think they can't win if the voters make the decision. Regardless of how one feels about Rahm, that is wrong. Yes this should be about laws. But residency laws are often ambiguous and interpretation can be in the eye of the beholder.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:50 PM
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32. It is a State Stature NOT a City Stature in question
That is clear if you read the opinion of the Appellant court.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:40 PM
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29. Should cronyism get you on the ballot...
in a race where you're legitimately legally ineligible to run?

The law says he can't run. He shouldn't be allowed to run. There are not two sets of rules, one for the elites and one for everybody else. He's not special. The law demands residency and lays out the requisite requirements for establishment of residency...he doesn't meet them ergo he's not a resident; maybe if he establishes residency he can run next time.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 03:29 PM
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36. No and neither should an unproven allegation of cronyism keep you off.
I have no dog in the fight either way but unearthing this law seems very "convenient" to say the least for the other candidates. That doesn't mean they can't or should not prevail - the law needs to be followed whatever it is - but I have to be a little skeptical on this.
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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:37 PM
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44. He has to meet the requirements
if he is not a resident, he is not eligible
if he moved to DC and voted in DC let him run for DC mayor
or wait until he qualifies in Chicago
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 05:03 PM
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45. Well, his ballot status wasn't actually in question for the reasons I cited.
n/t.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:16 PM
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9. Wonderful news. Yea Rahm.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:17 PM
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10. Supreme Court: Emanuel Stays on Ballot
Source: Chicago Sun-Times

The Illinois Supreme Court has ordered the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners to put Rahm Emanuel’s name back on the mayoral ballot, attorneys for Emanuel said Tuesday.

The court has not decided whether to hear Emanuel’s appeal of Monday’s Illinois Appellate Court ruling that tossed him out of the race to replace Mayor Daley. The Supreme Court granted Emanuel’s motion for a stay of the ruling, Emanuel attorney Mike Kasper said Tuesday.

Read more: http://www.suntimes.com/3483600-417/emanuel-court-supreme-election-appellate.html
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:17 PM
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11. Whoa!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:18 PM
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12. i wonder who owed who? nt
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:20 PM
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13. Damn!
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JJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:25 PM
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17. Money Talks
Good thing he had $ 11 million in campaign funds. The lawyers and judges will be getting a large share of it.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:25 PM
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18. It's just a stay of the ruling... not a final decision.
n/t
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:25 PM
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19. This means nothing for now
All that was done was preventing the printing of ballots, or if the ballots are printed then print them with Rahm's little name must be on them.

If the ballots were printed without his wee name then he would be sol. As it is, they have given him a tiny amount of time to first convince the court to take the case, then come back into session, read the briefs and decide if they want oral argument.

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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 03:43 PM
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37. It does now because they have agreed to hear the case.
Court puts Rahm Emanuel back on ballot, agrees to hear case

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/01/rahm-emanuel-back-on-the-ballot-pending-possible-court-hearing/1



He could still lose but they apparently think he has an argument worth hearing. Unless the law is crystal clear I think he is going to win this one. If there is any ambiguity, a supreme court is going to defer to the voters.
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JJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:38 PM
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22. Sounds like they'll decide the case
It would be to embarrassing to have his name on the ballot, have him win, and then he becomes disqualified over this issue. So it seems like they hear and decide this case.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:40 PM
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23. This decision was completely expected and is right.
say what you will about Rahm, the decision to take him off the ballot was wrong and will be overturned.

What would you say if it had been someone you liked? Someone who had left the city/state to serve in Congress? To serve in a war?

The last decision was the political one, not the Supreme Court's ruling today.

Step back from the Rahm hatred and look at the facts and the law. The appeals court drew too narrow a definition of "resident". Resident is a term that has tons of different means throughout the law. 2 people should not get to say what it means for the ppl of Chicago.

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Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:19 PM
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27. You are correct
No matter what you think about Rahm the Appellate Court decision was wrong and Judge Lampkin's dissent clearly explained why. I predict the decision of the election bard will be upheld when the court Illinois Supreme Court takes up the case. I expect it will be decided in less than two weeks.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:53 PM
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33. Disagree...
residency is statutorially-defined in regards to IL law for running for office. It states a period of time (1 year) and what allows one to qualify as "resident". Regardless of the reasons he left, he's not currently resident for the purposes of running for office.

It's only vague in that there are multiple ways one can be a resident ranging from property-ownership to living in the city to being a taxpayer to being a registered voter. He qualifies under none of them because it explicitly excludes owners of rental property...he rented out the house he owns in Chicago for the term of time he was in DC and does not qualify under any other clause.

The court decision stinks of cronyism. If Rahm is allowed to run it will prove for me definitively how corrupt Chicago politics is.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 03:54 PM
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38. The Illinois Supreme Court is in Springfield, not Chicago.
Illinois law and its interpretation by the Illinois Supreme Court will prevail, not the opinion of Chicago politicians. I think you are allowing your dislike of Chicago to color your judgment. Furthermore, they have not even rendered a judgment yet on the merits of the case. All they are saying is that there is a case that should be heard. It seems a bit premature to be screaming cronyism. Even unlikable people are entitled to their day in court in a country ruled by law.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:10 PM
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42. I thought the dissent was more persuasive as to what the law meant
Edited on Tue Jan-25-11 04:13 PM by Hamlette
and if cronyism is suspected, I'd suspect the 2 in the majority on this decision especially in light of the fact that several others have reviewed it and found him to be eligible.

I again ask, what if he had been serving in Congress? What if he had been some politician you like? Dennis, Grayson, Olbermann? Would you feel the same way?

This discussion seems to be based not on the law and its application here but rather on hatred of Rahm.
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hugo_from_TN Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 03:07 PM
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34. He did not serve in Congress or in a war.
He took a job out of state and leased out his house. If he wants to run for Mayor he needs to move back to Chicago and stay for a year. Then he is elibible.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:06 PM
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41. those were hypotheticals
to point out how odd the ruling to take him off the ballot is
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:12 PM
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26. Hey, this is Chicago
Edited on Tue Jan-25-11 02:17 PM by somone
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Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:35 PM
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28. They will hear the appeal - moving fast
The Illinois Supreme Court has agreed to hear the appeal of a court decision that knocked Rahm Emanuel out of the mayoral race.

Earlier, the Supreme Court ordered the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners to put Emanuel’s name back on the mayoral ballot while it considered Emanuel’s appeal of Monday’s Illinois Appellate Court ruling that tossed him out of the race to replace Mayor Daley.

The Supreme Court said it will not accept any new legal briefs or even hear oral arguments on the case. Instead, the court will rely on the briefs already filed at the appellate court level.

In its earlier ruling Tuesday, the Supreme Court granted Emanuel’s motion to suspend the ruling.


http://www.suntimes.com/3483600-417/court-emanuel-supreme-appellate-decision.html
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:42 PM
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30. Court puts Rahm Emanuel back on ballot, agrees to hear case
Source: USA Today



Update at 2:24 p.m. ET: The Illinois Supreme Court, which has issued a stay to keep Rahm Emanuel on the Chicago mayoral ballot, now says it will hear his challenge of an appeals court ruling denying him a spot, The Associated Press reports.

The court earlier today had issued a stay, but did not say definitely at that time whether it would hear the case.

In any case, the stay blocked a decision by the the appeals court that ordered Emanuel off the ballot because, the court ruled, he did not meet one-year residence requirements to run for mayor.

As a result, the ballots were intially being printed today for the Feb. 22 without his name. The stay meant that his name will stay on the ballot, although a final ruling in the case could yet disqualify him.



Read more: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/01/rahm-emanuel-back-on-the-ballot-pending-possible-court-hearing/1
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:42 PM
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31. It's just magical!
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 08:24 PM
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47. SHIT!!!
Well, at least he'll be confined to Chicago (sorry about that you folks who live in Chicago)...

Of course, we have our own problems with jan brewer and the fascist legislature...
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janet118 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 03:21 PM
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35. "I'm back on the ballot again . . .
"Out where a judge is my friend
And I know the court's on my side
So I will continue this ride
Back in the saddle again."
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groundloop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 03:57 PM
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39. There's an exception in the law for temporary absense to serve the US govt.
As I understand this case they just can't seem to agree if the exception applies for the purpose of voting or for the purpose of running for office. IMHO this is a bullshit argument by those who want to keep Rahm's name off the ballot. With that being said I'm not a fan of Rahm, I was elated he left the White House, and live nowhere close to Chicago (though I stayed in a Holiday Inn there once). It just seems that his political foes are using an unclear loophole in the law to keep him off the ballot.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:01 PM
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40. Yea!! Good for him.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 04:27 PM
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43. Illinois Supreme Court has decided to hear his appeal (CNN breaking)
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/01/25/emanuel.court.ruling/index.html?hpt=T1

(CNN) -- The Illinois Supreme Court will take up a ruling that would keep Rahm Emanuel off the Chicago mayoral ballot, and the court has agreed to a motion for an expedited ruling.
There will be no oral arguments in the case; the justices will use briefs already filed to the appeals court.
The state Supreme Court on Tuesday granted a stay on Monday's appeals court ruling that held Emanuel was ineligible to be a mayoral candidate and ordered that any ballots printed include his name while the case is pending.
In the 24-page brief seeking the emergency stay Emanuel's lawyers argue, "The decision below squarely conflicts with other appellate rulings addressing candidate residency requirements" and contend the lower court "was unable to find a single appellate decision supporting its novel legal standard."
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