Bristol Palin's Abstinence Talk at Washington University Panel Cancelled after Student Outcry

[sabra]

Source: CBS News

Bristol Palin's scheduled appearance on a Washington University panel has been canceled, according to the University, after outrage over the appearance prompted protests from students.

Palin, the daughter of 2008 vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, was scheduled to speak on a February panel about abstinence as part of the university's Sexual Responsibility Week. The 20-year-old single mother is an ambassador to the Candie's Foundation, which encourages abstinence among teenagers.

Many students at the university's St. Louis campus protested Palin's planned visit, prompting the issue to be taken up at a student Senate meeting this week.

Among the students' objections to the visit was the matter of Palin's pricetag: According to the St. Louis Today, the Student Union Treasury at Washington University approved a $20,000 budget for the event. The student government did not disclose Palin's exact fee for the appearance. She has been known to charge anywhere from $15,000 to $30,000 per occasion.

"It's not necessarily in opposition to the ideas that are being presented," said Philip Thomas, a Washington University student who started an online petition protesting Palin's appearance, in an interview with the St. Louis Today. "People are getting so angry because of the opposition to Palin's lack of expertise and the high cost she is charging." He said the outrage over the fee was driven in part by anger over recent budget cuts that have affected other student activities.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20029900-503544.html

[redwitch]

1. SUNY Binghamtom recently hosted Snooki.

Truly an insult to the students struggling to pay tuition.
What the hell are people thinking?

[LiberalFighter]

51. The few possibly using other student's fees to meet celebrities for their own satisfaction?

[xocet]

58. Karl Rove was paid $40,000 to speak at the University of Iowa a couple of years ago...

http://iowaindependent.com/2066/videos-karl-rove-and-protesters-in-iowa-city

[newtothegame]

65. The classic part is he got paid for nothing. Protestors shouted him down the whole time.

They actually did the guy a favor. :mad:

[customerserviceguy]

68. Did she give a talk about sobriety?

That would be the equivalent here.

[chollybocker]

101. But Snooki is a NY Times best-selling author!

The Poofs are sweeping across America.

[DrDan]

2. Good for these students . . . . .

[somone]

3. "because of the opposition to Palin's lack of expertise"

it's lack of experience

[AlbertCat]

19. it's lack of experience

It'd say she has had PLENTY of experience.... too much. Just no experience with abstinence.

[savannah43]

125. Exactly. It's the hypocrisy, but CBS will pretend that it's

the students being cheap.

[1monster]

147. She has experience in abstinence???

On edit: Just read the first part of your post. I see we agree. :evilgrin:

[calimary]

156. What's Miss Abstinence-Only going to talk about? Three o'clock feedings between

"Dancing with the Stars" rehearsals?

[qanda]

4. $15,000 to $30,000 to talk about abstinence from a single mother

Wow!!!

[Roy Rolling]

7. Day Rate

$30,000? She must be a member of a very strong grifting union to get that good of a contract. :toast:

[shanti]

28. grifter, yes

learned it at her mama's knee...:(

[AllyCat]

32. +1. Sounds like she is on the grift, no doubt

[XanaDUer]

145. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, eh?

nt.

[Sal Minella]

10. Expertise = "Don't do what I did." -- a pretty short speech, imo. n/t

[denverbill]

15. Dunno. If someone can make $30K for a speech just for getting preggers..

maybe more kids ought to think about that career option.

Oh wait, i guess that option is exclusively available to daughters of extreme-conservative, anti-abortion, pro-abstention, soccer-mom's who use their kids to prop up their own careers.

[LiberalFighter]

53. What about us guys? We can't get preggers.

[BobbyBoring]

92. I guess

We could speak about all the fun we had knocking up girls that abstained from sex??

This whole thing shows just how bizarre these people are~

[Imagevision]

157. K&R!

[LTR]

136. True, but we can help young mothers get their start!

:hide:

[Kyad02]

142. classic Steve Martin

I had that album back in the day ! LOL

[LTR]

146. One of the first albums I ever got!

"A Wild And Crazy Guy"

[Kyad02]

153. Yep and I still remeber parts of it....

"Thats why I wear Tuna Fish sandwich"

[LynneSin]

43. A single mother with a famous name. The Student Union members would probably scoff...

at single mothers with absolutely no fame connected to them.

[TheEuclideanOne]

88. Yeah, amazing isn't it.

I mean, for starters who better to talk about abstinence than her. For half of that money, I can send my alcholic uncle over to speak to them on how to stay sober. I guess that the logic is "Who better to lecture on this topic, but a person who has never practiced a day of abstinence in her whole whorish life". It makes sense, if you don't think about it very much. I am glad that the school kicked that little slut to the curb. I wish that the representative was not so politically correct about it and didn't make it seem as though it was just the cost. If only I could be that spokesman for a day. :)

[Skittles]

93. they should have a hooker speak about morals

that would be cheaper

[LisaL]

115. Only in America.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

5. Those students are on the ball...

Good for them.

Make her take her foolish abstinence talk someplace else......or just can it.

Abstinence sure worked for her, didn't it?

[onpatrol98]

17. Abstinence does work...she should have tried it...

Maybe that's her speech...I "should have" remained abstinent. Still...an extremely short speech. Worthy of maybe...a nickel. Pay the girl her money.

[musiclawyer]

63. My daughter attends Wash U

Everyone there is as sharp as a tack and the student body if fairly liberal. My daughter said students were ready to give her hell. I almost don't think its the money. I think Wash U figured out that its students were gonna go midieval on her and it would be on video.

[Duval]

87. I believe your daughter. Our

Lame Stream Media would not publish what the real outcry entailed.

[fantomas]

6. That's the closest Bristol's ever gotten to a college

[CaliforniaPeggy]

9. Welcome to DU, fantomas!

:hi:

[Tikki]

11. Hi fantomas...

Welcome to DU..:hi:

I worry...it's like palin is so afraid any of her children might
learn about something she hasn't scripted herself.

Sad, I say.


Tikki

[No Elephants]

13. Well, her mom went to 5 or 6. So, if you average out.....

[onpatrol98]

102. that does take some gall...

if she's never attended college and yet at her age, she's going to step on a college campus and lecture college students...is she not in college somewhere...anywhere?

[Initech]

127. ZING!!!!!

Judging from your screen name I take it you're a Mike Patton fan?

[fantomas]

152. Thanks for the welcomes

Initech, close: a fan of the original French pulp antihero that inspired him.

[FSogol]

8. Let me know when, "Sarah Palin's WH Run Cancelled after Citizen Outcry"

:shrug:

[lark]

48. Headline I want to see

Palin stomped at polls, Obama wins with 70% of national vote and Palin didn't carry a single state outside of the deep south.

:toast:

[Jim__]

12. Bristol Palin's abstinence talk? They're kidding, right? - n/t

[LynneSin]

44. She comes on after Charlie Sheen's talk about Alcoholism and Hannibel Lector's talk about....

fine cooking.

[volstork]

55. and

Keith Richards' lecture on "Just Say No to Drugs"

[LynneSin]

56. ooo and you forgot this

Lindsey Lohan's Safe Driving class

:hide:

[onehandle]

14. Good. Don't waste money on a fake celebrity. nt

[BeliQueen]

Good for them

Bristol Palin's only contribution to any conversation on abstinence would be "I had sex, got pregnant, and now I regret it."

Sure, she could parrot some right-wing talking points, but where's her empirical research or field data?

If regret is sufficient qualification for receiving a $15,000 to $30,000 speaking fee, then perhaps they should invite a teen mother from their community to speak, pay her that fee, and actually do something positive to improve their surrounding community.

[GrannyK]

134. Or maybe

She could say, "I had sex, got pregnant, had a baby and now I get to charge you guys $15,000. How cool is that."

[peacetalksforall]

143. Family values - leaves her out-of-wedlock child with a baby-sitter so she could

make more money for dance lessons - maybe hit the road performances. How about Palin with someone like Hasselback in their own Las Vegas stint - kids up in the room with a nanny.

[muntrv]

16. Bristol talking about abstinence=Cheech & Chong talking about staying away from drugs.

[alp227]

105. or Tyrone Biggums giving an anti-drug speech to schoolkids

www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=24405&title=tyrone-biggums-classroom-visit

[muntrv]

18. Good that they made her cancel. Think about how many TVs would have been shot

if she spoke.

[dd2003]

22. good for the students

any palin should never be invited anywhere

[Stuckinthebush]

20. Abstinence for adults?

Why? Is sex bad?

How about a better discussion. Say, something like birth control and STD protection.

People have sex. Not having sex because you are waiting for marriage is a recipe for bad marital sex! :)

[renegade000]

24. potentially a recipe for

getting hitched because you're just horny as well.

[SomeGuyInEagan]

61. My thoughts as well. It's sex. Let's talk openly about it and quit acting like ... Americans.

Geez!

Abstinence education for adults? WTF?!

And, when it comes to this subject, I defer to someone with your username.

[Stuckinthebush]

73. Boom!

Funny!

:D

[LTR]

137. Abstinence is a way for right-wing zealots to control people

Living beings have sex. Period. That's the way nature works.

Religions long ago have found that using abstinence to try to control people is incredibly effective. The wingnuts picked up on the idea. No wonder our society is so fucked up about the topic.

[KansDem]

21. B Palin giving an abstinence talk is like C Manson giving an improving customer service skills talk

Was she going to mention the need to use Lysol after using a condom?

Despite consistent federal and state funding, Choosing the Best has long been controversial. An early edition of the abstinence-only curriculum advised its readers to use Lysol on their genital after using a condom.7 Some parents groups have organized opposition to Choosing the Best. In 2004, parents in DeKalb County, Georgia successfully lobbied the school board to remove the Choosing the Best from the district’s curriculum, citing its scientific errors, gender stereotypes and scare tactics. These parents have now formed Georgia Parents for Responsible Health Education, which aims to support other parents in ensuring that their children receive accurate comprehensive sexual health
education.8

http://www.legalmomentum.org/assets/pdfs/choosingthebest.pdf

You tax dollars at work...

[Control-Z]

103. Lysol on their genitals?

Oh, my fucking gawd! What kind of damage would that do to delicate genital tissue?

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

120. Plenty of damage and at one time it was commonly used for contraception,

A nurse I know frequently sees young women with chemical burns who "spilled a household cleaner on their lap" (not lysol and almost anything) - they tend to just go along with that story since any young woman actually doing that is probably already terrified enough of their parents learning they are sexually active and don't need an honor killing on their conscience.

[truthrocks]

23. Now, if we could get her mama the same treatment . . .

:hippie:

[Tempest]

25. She's living with her boyfriend

Are we to believe they're not having sex?

[DemoTex]

26. "Like Charlie Sheen telling you to bring it down a notch at your intervention."

Words of Jon Stewart about a different GOP hypocritical disconnect; but applies here, too.

[Beartracks]

27. It'll be dismissed as liberal students 'n haters. :( - n/t

[RufusTFirefly]

29. Good decision, but another excuse for Caribou Barbie to play victim, I fear

They're attacking her children!!

:nopity:

[Marnie]

30. It would have been worth the money if she had had to

answer questions in a open forum.

She would have been chopped into intellectual microscopic pieces.
Starting with not being able to understand what most of the big (more than two syllable) words were.

It would have been a great learning experience of Bristol to have to face questions from students who are putting themselves through college, some with children who are single parents, some with whole families to support.

What could a easy over, rich kid who lives off mamma's apron strings have to say to the average college student?

Seriously, what would her teaching point be?

[CLANG]

36. Her brain is already one Intellectual microscopic piece. Splitting an atom is not cost effective!

[AllyCat]

31. Reminding me of the analogy of tobacco companies running stop smoking campaigns

Good for the students.

[Blue Owl]

33. Finally some fucking sanity

more, please!

[CLANG]

34. Why don't they get a speaker that ACTUALLY WAS abstinent!!

[Control-Z]

104. They would probably have trouble

finding one.

[alp227]

106. how about Christine O'Donnell? n/t

[Control-Z]

111. Aha. I forgot about her.

But I think she's a re-born virgin. I'm not sure if that counts.

[alp227]

114. oh right she is re-born, she said that in college she hooked up a lot. silly me!

How about Ann Coulter? I'm sure that she can be an abstinence role model. She's 50, never has been married, and is childless.

[Control-Z]

117. I see what you're saying.

She could teach women how to be so disgustingly filthy that men would run away terrified.

[udbcrzy2]

35. Bristol looks like she's gaining weight here lately in photos

in the media. I was wondering if she is just gaining weight or was pregnant again???

[keepCAblue]

42. Yup, the only person on DWTS who GAINED weight during the show. n/t

[LynneSin]

45. Her and Kelly Osbourne both went into DTWS with extra weight on them

And Kelly managed to really glam up her shape from her time on the show. Kelly was always pretty but now she's a bit of a style maven!

[Tutankhamun]

122. she looks much better than she used to

[Doctor_J]

37. All of Congreslime Ryan's speeches about the evils of Social Securit

should also be canceled.

I can't believe this homely unwed mom gets paid an excellent 6 months salary for giving a single "do as I say, not as I do" story.

[bongbong]

38. Her cancelled speech

"Hi everybody. Don't get pregnant. Just say no. But if you do get pregnant, turn it into a career. No questions. Bye. Where's my check?"

[Tutankhamun]

123. LOL

[CakeGrrl]

39. That oughta chap Mama Grizzly's ass

Hopefully she'll soon have a complete anger/frustration/hatred-fueled meltdown that finally renders her too toxic for the MSM to keep propping up.

[JBoy]

64. The Palin family multi-level marketing scheme collapses

[thereismore]

40. Bravo! WU students are no dummies. They probably know more about the subject

that the grifter's grifting daughter.

[The Last Democratic]

84. . Bravo! WU students are no dummies. They probably know more about the subject

That’s just what I was thinking. 
 

[LynneSin]

41. Hooray for the students at WU. Smart enough to know they do not want some uneducated idiot

talking about something she barely knows anything about and charging an outrageous fee to do so.

Getting knocked up makes her absolutely no more qualified to talk about Abstience as it does making Charlie Sheen a viable speaker about alcholism. And I would suspect the might be able to find a few speakers from within the student body that would be willing to talk about their experience - student who wouldn't charge $20k and would bring this topic much closer to home.

[dazzlerazzle]

46. speech cancelled

Guess maybe Octomom wasn't available?

[Paper Roses]

47. Hah!

[DollyM]

49. being irresponsible seems to be the key to success!

Just ask Ted Williams as well. I really have problems with the fact that we are making hero's out of people who should not be.

[Jester Messiah]

50. Heh, glad to see more rational minds prevail.

Getting Bristol's advice on abstinence is like getting weight-loss advice from Kirstie Alley.

[Moonwalk]

52. Maybe she should give talks on dancing?

Or is she as unqualified at that as she is at abstinence? :eyes:

[PSzymeczek]

126. Pretty much. n/t

[Buzz Clik]

54. I'm beginning to understand the Palin philosophy: "I am NOT a role model."

Bristol gets knocked up, and then peddles herself as a spokesperson for abstinence: "Hey, who better to lecture kids about the consequences of unprotected sex?"

And, mommy is on the lecture/tv circuit talking about responsible leadership. "Ya, I quit bein' governor of Alaska to pursue fame and fortune. I'm a quitter and I was a horrible leader. Who knows better about what it takes to avoid choosin' awful leaders?"

[SheilaT]

57. I do have a recurring fantasy of running into

Bristol Palin somewhere, and asking her "How's that abstinence thing working out for you?"

Don't forget that Sarah was four or five months pregnant when she got married.

[defendandprotect]

59. Glad to see the students at Washington University are smarter than to allow this --!!

Cheers to them!

[Zoigal]

60. This makes my day..am a Wash U grad and stopped giving them $$ when

they granted Phyllis Schlafly an honorary PhD....z

[Athena66]

89. Hahahaha!

Same here, Zoigal! Great minds, and all that......:toast:

[dotymed]

62. Not "abstaining"

helped get Bristol where she is today. At $30,000 a "speech (you bet'cha), that's pretty far....more than MOST OF OUR POPULATION EARNS IN ONE YEAR!
Serfdom 2.0

[cynatnite]

66. No university should pay for speakers...

I can see paying for expenses in getting them there, but above that...no.

The students were right on.

[Happyhippychick]

67. Uber proud WASH U GRAD HERE!!!!

Yay them!

[Athena66]

91. Me, too

Good for them!

[StevieM]

118. Me three! And welcome to DU! (eom)

[Crowman1979]

69. ALL RIGHT! The backlash has begun!

:evilgrin:

Pretty soon people are going to be burning Palin memorabilia at a baseball stadium near you.

[mstinamotorcity]

70. Like mother

like daughter or is it like daughter like mother. no matter they both need help.

[forty6]

71. Like Mother, like daughter, grifters for all they can while they can!

I suppose Bristol will be running for President someday, too!

[The Last Democratic]

86. It's like this!

One look at the daughter,and two at the mother.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

72. Aw, give the girl a break! She needs the money ...

to pay for her new house in Arizona.

Had she remained abstinent, think of all the experiences she'd have missed: going to the GOP convention as poster girl for family values, photo on the cover of People magazine, being a contestant on Dancing with the Stars and now owning her own home while other kids are just struggling to make enough to move out of their parents' house.

I can't wait for "Bristol Palin's Arizona."

[tanyev]

76. There's her speech.

How Being Pregnant At Just The Right Time Brought Me Fame and Fortune.

[DollyM]

80. we seem to be doing that a lot these days . . .

Have we ran out of true hero's? People we can truly admire for staying the course, working hard and doing something in life worth while? It seems the trend now is to elevate pregnant teens and homeless alcoholics to star status while good kids and people who are responsible are left behind. I for one would like to see a good kid who has stayed abstinent and gone on to college and made something out of her life, get $30 thousand dollars than Brisol Palin. I can't wait to see if WASH U invites Ted Williams to speak next!!!!

[katty]

74. Bristol shouldn't be on ANY panels giving anyone advice

[valerief]

75. Good for them! nt

[chelsea0011]

77. I'm just asking..but does preaching abstinence after having a baby kind of like saying

"I wish I never had you"? Or am I being too harsh?

[Beaverhausen]

78. I think that's a good point

but that poor kid was doomed from the start.

[bbgrunt]

79. I hope she doesn't get a cancellation fee.

[Brother Buzz]

83. We'll have to wait for the industrious Dumpster diver to uncover a copy of the contract

I'd like to read the particulars of the contract rider, bendy straw at all.

[truebrit71]

81. The bigger question is who are these idiots that think that paying $15,000 to listen to her...

in the first place? What possible value can she bring to a conversation other than "I got knocked up"?

Whoever thought this was a good idea in the first place needs their head examined..

[RedCloud]

82. Pigs off campus!

[LynneSin]

85. The other thing that bothers me is that it's Candies sponsoring this

http://www.google.com/images?q=Candies+Ads&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1280&bih=685

Candies - the organization that says we should dress like tarts, wear uber-sexy shoes and practice abstinence. And most of their ads are geared towards teenagers because trust me, Candies have the crappiest wearing shoes out there.

[Skittles]

94. unbelievable

W.T.F.

[spooky3]

148. Very good point. And at the very least, if Candie's is truly a promoter, it should have paid for the

whole bill.

[CatWoman]

90. .....

[Zambero]

95. She's already received an "F" in Abstinence 101

We already knew there's two things she doesn't do so well:

1) Dance
2) Practice what she preaches

Guess I don't envision any honorary abstinence degrees being bestowed on Bristol any time soon. And kudoes to WU students for having the good sense to insist that $20k be retained for a better purpose.

[goforit]

96. The rich kids of Wash U protest? Well good for them.

They shouldn't be protesting money as much as total ignorance!

[struggle4progress]

97. Well, crap. I thought I'd volunteer to speak there about my bad sexual choices, for (say) $15K

but now I guess that would be pointless :cry:

[Name removed]

98. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[mercuryblues]

99. When

Jamie Lynn Spears announced her pregnancy, the media was accused of glamorizing it. Sreams of her as bad example to set for teen girls. A few short months bristol palin announces her pregnancy.

bristol makes money off from being an unwed teen mom and Jamie lost her career.

[TNLib]

100. The University is pretty stupid

They could probably get a single mom talk about abstinence for allot cheaper maybe even free. You could probably find someone with more experience with abstinence to speak for allot cheaper.

[alp227]

110. +1. Key word: COMMUNITY!

BUT...if your last name is Palin you gotta have attention RIGHT?

[patrice]

113. The first piece I saw on this said the deal was brokered by a Catholic group on campus. nt

[joshcryer]

131. You could pay thirty moms to talk about their experiences for the same price, and they'd be ESTATIC.

To be able to get $1000 for talking about their life? God.

[spooky3]

149. How about someone who has actually abstained for 30 years, to talk about the pro's and con's?

Having non-abstainers talk about abstinence is sort of like having spendthrifts talk about budgeting.

[JJW]

107. She Can't Dance, also too

U bet cha!

[earth mom]

108. Abstinence Speech from Bristol the baby mama?! Now I've heard it all!

What a total joke-no wonder the students were pissed off!

[patrice]

109. Perhaps some of those young MU ladies know a few other baby mothers in real need & who

could also use $17-$30K FOR NOTHING.

[alp227]

112. Conservatives have been complaining about colleges having liberal biases

and accuse colleges of censoring right-wing views. Reading the article though, it's actually the students who chose to drop Palin. She's the only non-university voice in this panel apparently: "Palin's replacement on the panel will be Dr. Katie Plax, head adolescent medicine and associate professor in the Department of Pediatrics at Washington University School of Medicine. According to Student Life, a campus newspaper at the school, Flax will be joined on the panel by representatives from the University's Catholic Student Center, Planned Parenthood and Student Health Services." Hmm, I wonder if Flax will be presenting a pro-abstinence viewpoint? I'm sure that there are people other than Bristol Palin or hardcore religious types who can articulate a case for abstaining from sex until marriage.

[jmowreader]

116. What exactly is the talk she gives?

"Don't have sex before marriage or you'll wind up just like me...rich and famous for doing exactly nothing."

[B2G]

119. The middle east is imploding

and Bristol Palin is on the front page of DU.

:eyes:

[swilton]

121. + 1,000

Who cares about Bristol!!!

[RandySF]

124. Didn't Bristol just recently "shack up" with some mohawked dude in AZ?

And she was going to talk about abstinence?

[crim son]

128. I don't see the hypocrisy.

She does know the consequences of not being abstinent. I'm not saying she should be making speeches - she shouldn't & certainly not for money, and I'm not saying she's become wiser because she got pregnant and is now a single mother. I just don't think hypocrisy is the issue here. She knows a little something about the subject precisely because she effed up. Unfortunately she's also a foul-mouthed, foolish idiot whose circumstance would be unremarkable if Sarah Palin weren't her mother. She isn't a hypocrite, she's a nothing.

[LisaL]

151. What consequences did she have of not being abstinent?

Appearing on "Dancing with the stars?" Photos of her and the kid in magazines? Being paid for abstinence talks? She is making money off it.

[crim son]

154. She has a child.

Dancing with the Stars passes, but motherhood lasts forever and if you have kids, you know exactly how life-altering it is whether or not you are behaving as a parent ought. I think you're expressing disgust for the way she's exploited her situation and I share that disgust for her personally but I still believe the word "hypocrisy" doesn't apply. "Idiot" is more apt, IMHO.

[DallasNE]

129. Duh

"opposition to Palin's lack of expertise and the high cost she is charging".

This is like accepting gobs of money under false pretenses and is highly immoral. Coming from a Palin it is to be expected, sadly.

[pinniped]

130. She's a bargain compared with what her stupid mama costs.

"People are getting so angry because of the opposition to Palin's lack of expertise and the high cost she is charging."

This applies to her know nothing, gum flapping, 1/2 term quitting mama. She knows absolutely nothing and charges extortion fees.

[orbitalman]

132. Why the hell is Bristol Palin talking about abstinence, ANYWAY??? n/t

[Concordia]

133. Abstinence talk?

Abstinence talk to COLLEGE STUDENTS? Wash U students, at that. How incredibly insulting. These are adults, albeit young ones (for the most part). I think they're past the point where they need to be told they shouldn't have sex now.

[LTR]

135. So, up to $30K for an abstinence speech from a knocked-up 20 year-old?

Guess the Palins are smarter than we think.

And you know it's all bullshit because I get the feeling that Bristol is probably screwing everything in sight.

[johnlucas]

138. You wanna understand White Privilege? Here's your example right here

A Black teenager gets pregnant & becomes a teen mother...
...she's a welfare queen destroying the fabric of society.

A White teenager gets pregnant & becomes a teen mother...
...MTV makes reality shows of her & she gets cover shots on glossy magazines.

A Black teenager gets pregnant & becomes a teen mother...
...she's raising another generation of gang-banging, drug-dealing delinquents that will send the country into ruin.

A White teenager gets pregnant & becomes a teen mother...
...she gets thousand-dollar speaking engagements in colleges & universities ironically talking up the benefits of abstinence.

You see what I did there?
"Ah, yes. I see what you did there."

All that's missing is the delivery of Paul Mooney to drive the point home.

Thank you for your time, ladies & laddies.
John Lucas

[RedRoses323]

139. +1000

Couldn't have said it better..... :toast:

[patricia92243]

140. USUALLY, college students have long since made their decisions to be sexually active or not. The

discussion needs to be about birth control, etc. Bristol's message is likely targeted at an almost non-existent audience, or the fact that they are attending the lecture, strongly indicates they have already made the decision for abstinence.

About paying her - I agree that is too much money coming from an inappropriate source.

[daggahead]

141. These students understand the meaning of hypocrisy! n/t

[lonestarnot]

144. :)

[BenzoDia]

150. I can understand the student's frustration. Back at my University, we spent our student body money

bringing in Desmond Tutu in for a talk. Imagine the difference.

[Initech]

158. I can think of a million things that would be a better use for $17K.

[CBHagman]

155. I simply can't imagine justifying that price tag.

She's only got her life story -- no degrees, no particular area of expertise. It just looks like a celebrity appearance, nothing more.

[underpants]

159. Churchill "We determined what you are. Now we are only negotiating the price"

[Nancy Waterman]

160. My son goes there and he said

they want an open discussion on the subject. They realized everything she would say would be seen in terms of who her mother is.
He said they don't want it to be political, and anything from one of Palin's offspring would be.