Bill circulating in Legislature to end spoof calls

[dorkulon]

Source: The Badger Herald

By Sean Kirkby
Monday, February 28, 2011 5:38 p.m.
Updated Tuesday, March 1, 2011 2:03:03 a.m.
Although representatives deny any connection to the recent prank call on the governor, two legislators began circulating a bill Monday that would ban making trick calls masking the caller’s true identity.

Sen. Mary Lazich, R-Waukesha, and Rep. Mark Honadel, R-Milwaukee, authored a bill that would prohibit tricking the call’s recipient into believing the caller is someone they are not for malicious purposes.

“While use of spoofing is said to have some legitimate uses, it can also be used to frighten, harass and potentially defraud,” Lazich and Honadel said in an e-mail to legislators.

The bill language forbids a caller from intentionally providing a false phone number and convincing the person receiving the call that it comes from someone other than the actual caller.

Read more: http://badgerherald.com/news/2011/02/28/bill_circulating_in_.php

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Yeah. Nothing at all to do with the Walker call. Right.

[ellenrr]

1. jeez louise what's next?

outlaw satire and humor?

Our "founding fathers" would turn in their graves.
They knew the value of spoof.

[sam sarrha]

16. so you never had someone call you 10 times a day for months...?

[Divernan]

26. Those would be harassment, not spoof calls.

[Retrograde]

33. Yes, fundraisers for the Democratic party

OK, maybe Telefund calls only 6 or 7 times a day.

[nebenaube]

21. this

http://kristenemery.com/2011/02/23/does-governor-scott-walker-have-a-smoking-gun-buried-in-the-budget-bill/

[Skip_In_Boulder]

2. Yeah, this is really a pressing problem that can't wait. n/t

[annabanana]

3. "it can also be used to frighten, harass and potentially defraud"

I thought that was the job of Congress and the US Chamber of Commerce.. No stepping on their lines

[snappyturtle]

4. If the law is passed will it apply to collection agencies? I have read

of the devious nature of these calls frigthening the hell out of people...some of whom owe nothing.

[joshcryer]

5. As if it wouldn't have an exception for those assholes.

[sam sarrha]

15. credit collectors do this all the time, one guy said he called a woman and said her son was in a

serious accident in the hospital, better get here immediately. he was waiting at the entrance, told here she needed to pay her over due bill... she wrote him a check and left.

[Blue State Bandit]

25. This bill would handicap police investigations and sting operations.

If they word it too broadly, which would be necessary if it is meant to protect lawmakers from such investigations by the press, would by extension, make it illegal for under-cover law enforcement officers from making phone calls to their targets or perspective conspirators during the course of their investigation or sting operations.

FAIL!

[dorkulon]

28. "law enforcement and government regulatory agents...would be exempt from the law."

:shrug:

[rbixby]

31. I would imagine it would only apply to people doing that from inside the state

If the call originated from outside the state, it would all still be perfectly legal, right?

[Hissyspit]

6. God, Republicans are so fucking stupid, hypocritical and despicable. Did these two call for James O'

Keefe to be prosecuted?

[Snotcicles]

7. I wonder if it has an Acorn exemption in it. nt

[KurtNYC]

45. and one for push polling and one for their robocalls

Coming from people who use billions to create FAKE grass roots movements, fake news channels and fake crisises this is "do what I say not what I do" type stuff.

[fasttense]

8. What next, outlawing the wearing of the color purple?

The underlying message is that you should be punished for impersonating a member of the aristocracy. If the prank caller had impersonated a janitor would they have been so quick to introduce a law against it? I doubt it.

During feudal times, the underclass could be jailed if they impersonated the upper-class. It went so far that special (expensive) colors such as purple were reserved only for the aristocracy and royals. If a poor man were caught wearing the color, he could be imprisoned.

So, now we must outlaw it too because our corporate aristocracy does not want a poor person to think he can talk to his Governor.

[no_hypocrisy]

9. You mean James O'Keefe would have to stop his pranks in Wisconsin?

[dorkulon]

37. Not unless he uses a phone. /nt

[DiverDave]

10. Once again we see

the stupidity of the repukelicans at work.

Next, outlawing calling rethugs criminals...sheesh

[madrchsod]

11. what ? no prince albert in the can?

jesus h christ, are these republicans adults? or are they spoiled little children that cry to mommy when they can`t get their way?

[displacedvermoter]

40. Is your refrigerator running???

Better catch it or it will get tired!!!

[Democat]

12. Nanny state!

No sense of humor at all.

[Volaris]

34. no kidding....

so much for the concept of small, unobtrusive Govt.....lol what idiots they are=)

[border_town]

13. The land of the Free?

And the home of the ignorant?

[nadine_mn]

14. oh crap - dupe - I also asked about Prince Albert

oh the humanity

[The Backlash Cometh]

17. This is really going to put a damper on Republican marketing research.

They love to use phone banks from New Jersey or some other blue state and always fail to identify who they are digging up research for.

[sybylla]

18. The only ones who will be caught by this are those who publish/share their booty.

The rest of us who have fraudulent telemarketers pull this shit on us all the time will get nowhere.

[Blue Meany]

19. Spoof Calls are standard GOP election tactics...

They call saying they're from the Democratic Party and that you voting place has been moved to a non-existent location on the other side of town and that Democrats are supposed to vote the day after the election.

[Blue Meany]

20. Spoof Calls are standard GOP election tactics...

They call saying they're from the Democratic Party and that you voting place has been moved to a non-existent location on the other side of town and that Democrats are supposed to vote the day after the election.

[Deep13]

22. So this isn't an Onion story? nt

[Javaman]

23. Um, do you have Prince Albert in a can? nt

[Maeve]

30. Beat me to it!!! eom

[rpannier]

24. Righhhht> Nothing to do with the Walker call.

Just a happy coincidence

[dorkulon]

27. I know, right? Why would they even bother to lie when it's that obvious?

Must be in their blood.

[City Lights]

29. You're in the middle of a budget crisis! Can't this wait?

:eyes:

What a bunch of sad, little clowns. Scutty Wanker is a big boy! He can take care of himself!

[GodlessBiker]

32. I hear a bill to prohibit people from making the governor look like an idiot is being considered.

[Critters2]

38. Will this include the governor himself? nt

[dorkulon]

39. That's a guaranteed life sentence for him ;-)

[L. Coyote]

47. Scott "He's no Hosni" Walker is America's leading dupe, and there is no hope of saving him now.

[Gregorian]

35. These are the things which will yield one less step toward revolution.

And they are indicative of the stance which many in our government take. Control over us. A permanent state.

I think the one thing our government needs to understand is that they are not permanent. They serve us. And they should be fluid. Without that, we're right back to the very situation which we created this country for.


My point is, the more ways we have to express the truth of the situation, the less likely we'll have to ban together like the Egyptians and Libyans are doing.

[Zambero]

36. Fine. Let's also outlaw abuse of power

And ban any and all attempts to legislate an end to long-standing workers rights.

[BadgerKid]

41. Prof. Umbridge says deep down we know it was wrong to prank the governor.

:sarcasm:

[quakerboy]

42. define "malicious purposes"

and then we can talk about it.

Because people do get hit with fraud. Not sure why anyone listens to anyone cold calling them, but they do. I have a hard time believing that its not already illegal, nor that making an additional law will prevent anyone who is determined to make financial gain.

[marasinghe]

43. standard caligulesque ploy: try & protect the dumass leader's credibility with laws. n/t

[NuttyFluffers]

44. yeah, don't fight discussions of criminality, fight whistleblowing.

that makes sense. that's the most just thing one should do in this situation, right?

:crazy:

[L. Coyote]

46. It would also prohibit individuals from masking their voices ....

[bemildred]

48. Why not just outlaw lying altogether? nt