Hillary Clinton Says Al Jazeera Is Embarrassing U.S. News Agencies

[Turborama]

Source: Business Insider

Gus Lubin | Mar. 2, 2011, 11:52 AM

Hillary Clinton was defending her department budget in front of the U.S. Foreign Policy Priorities committee this morning on C-Span.

She says a major reason the State Department needs money is because "we are in an information war and we are losing that war."

Clinton said private media is not good enough to handle the job: "Our private media cannot fill that gap. Our private media, particularly cultural programming often works at counter purposes to what we truly are as Americans. I remember having an Afghan general tell me that the only thing he thought about Americans is that all the men wrestled and the women walked around in bikinis because the only TV he ever saw was Baywatch and World Wide Wrestling."

Meanwhile she says Al-Jazeera, CCTV and Russia Today are killing it: "Al Jazeera is winning. The Chinese have opened up a global English language and multi-language television network, the Russians have opened up an English language network. I've seen it in a couple of countries and it's quite instructive."


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-al-jazeera-2011-3

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I was watching AJE as this happened earlier. They picked up on the comment as soon as she made it to the committee, briefly interrupted what they were talking about at the time (Libya, I think) to mention it and as soon as they had a clip they played it.

[RKP5637]

1. Exactly true!!! n/t

[Ron Green]

39. And the worst, in my view, is "Public" Broadcasting.

They appear to be an outlet for journalism, but they're bought and paid for by the largest corporations.

[boycottfaux]

47. Yeah, PBS, Junk TV

Especially that FRONTLINE, piece of garbage, all that FACTUAL
reporting.  Enough to made your head explode . .

[EYEBALL ROLL]

[CBHagman]

57. I know -- all that stuff about the Catholic Church in Ireland...

...and the abuse uncovered there, etc. And what's with all these documenataries and concerts when they could be getting to important things like Snooki or competitive eating, or Ice Road Truckers and things like that?

[JDPriestly]

83. PBS has some good shows.

One of my favorite news shows is Ian Masters on KPFK radio in the late afternoon, early evening in LA.

Another is Democracy Now.

I also like Thom Hartmann.

But in terms of just news, Ian Masters and Democracy Now do great reporting. They are not half-hour news programs, however. They report big stories through interviews. They do in-depth reports that are great.

[pam4water]

117. My PBS doesn't have Democracy Now :( It hasn't had anytime good on since Bill Maher retired. Except

the occasional front line.

[Kolesar]

90. great answer

"They" are going to overlook your superb sarcasm

[Cherchez la Femme]

158. Not PBS... but NPR? Most definitely!

NPR is but a shadow of its old self. It's clear Dubya's 'stocking the pond', so to speak, was detrimental and is still detrimental
considering it seems that there is nary a Bush the 2nd's appointee he doesn't like.

To include, among lobbyists & Wall Streeters/Banksters, the "Loyal Bushie" D.A.'s he kept on in the Justice Department, regarding which people (and I use that term loosely) he had every right, as an incoming president, to replace with his own appointees.


Either he was too afraid of the mean, mean words of the 'pukes
--y'know, those people who had been soundly rebuked by his election, along with the 2008 rout of the 'pukes in Congress?--
or he really wanted people of Oligarchical or Bushie-caliber.

How's about his DOJ who went to court and argued against even minor gay rights such as Federal employees who are gay, doing the same work as straight people, getting benefits for their, well not Wives or Husbands (because 'God' ya know, 'is in the mix')
HIS people, with malice aforethought, worked against it (these sentiments came from the top, make no mistake)
Just as he and his administration did with Prop 8 in California, see that last quote and believe me, his words counted)
--because the monetary outlay, which any heterosexual couple could have without question, would just be too expensive, that these people were simply not worth it.
--and a great one, an exactly-the-same-as Bushie one: arguing in court in support of DOMA; that LGBTQI people were akin to, if not outright practiced, incest and pedophilia!


Fucking lovely. Just bloody wonderful.
With such "fierce advocates", who needs enemies?


Yet we LGBTQI's are supposed to fall all over ourselves that he finally --and when his triagnulation finally couldn't argue anymore against a solid, decided majority of U.S. citizens who consistently polled that being gay didn't mean shit when it came to 'Homosexuals' offering their time and yes, their lives, when it came to defending our country

or more human grist for the Two-War-Mill -- no difference.

It's either one or the other. Nothing else makes any sense,
including X-dimension chess! :eyes:


Yet his picks have only gotten worse (and one thought that couldn't' be possible!)
All this is downright pathetic and a guaranteed recipe to lose Democratic votes --hence elections, (already happened)

which could well include his own.

And it's already prejudged, and by our "fellow Democrats" here, to be "teh libruls' fault, cause THEY don't vote! :eyes:

As if he could ever convince Reprofitcans and Wall Street to vote for him, no matter how much he kowtows to them!

But maybe that know-it-all (not to mention excellent actor :puke:) Ben Stein
can further bang the drum for Obama and say how he'd make such a great Republican President!

Sad thing is -- he WOULD
and DOES! :(


Am I ticked? You bet your sweet azz I am

and if it were YOU who was likened to Pedophiles, that you practiced incest and were at the most 2nd-class citizens undeserving of the same rights as 'regular' people just because of how you were hard-wired (in our case to love the same gender since, heck before birth!) I'd really, truly like to see how you react. I surely would.
It could be for whatever reason, of course it doesn't have to be because you're gay: Pick a prejudice, any prejudice
...it could even be, in some alternate universe, because you were Christian
or a white male.
Heck, seems to be in this universe! All you seem to hear about in this reality is how "powerless" and put upon those oppressed minorities are
Oh! The humanity! :violin:

I've seen enough of Christians to know that 'turn the other cheek' are just words on some old parchment. Perhaps even more powerful, white men have a millennial-long unwritten
or even written/codified
law.


Wow. How's that for going off on tangents? It's obviously been bottled up, but I still mean every word.
Would I not have to feel like this. There's nothing better I'd like to cheer on our Democratic President.
If I weren't true to myself, I could;
but I can't.
But I am sorry if it hurts anyone.
But your hurt is nothing close to my despair and disgust.

And finally: /offrant

[RKP5637]

60. Yep, another shill reporting for corps. n/t

[GreatInDayton]

73. Not so fast...

They may accept underwriting from corporate entities, but "bought" is not it. Far from it. I wonder what, specifically, you are referring to. Do you know of instances of public broadcasting doing the bidding of the largest corporations? Curious.

[Ron Green]

77. Sponsors of the "News Hour": Chevron, Boeing, Monsanto,

and so on. Softball questions to right-wing interviewees. "He said, she said" discussions of issues without getting to the truth or asking "Why?" in any sort of meaningful way. No face-time for truly left-leaning officeholders or other figures (a recent appearance by Bernie Sanders being a rare exception.)

I grant that PBS and NPR are a notch better than some guy in a plaid jacket shouting about his furniture closeout sale, but my complaint is that they PRETEND to be something much more than they are: Nostalgia, British dramas, "science" programs with MTV production values, and tons of COMMERCIALS for their corporate sponsors. And then they want me to give them my car and put them in my will!

[JDPriestly]

84. Ron, you should try listening to Ian Masters on KPFK, Los Angeles.

Check that website. He is really a great interviewer. You get in-depth news, no sponsors.

I listen while I fix supper.

[U4ikLefty]

129. Yes, KPFK 90.7 fm and the other Pacifica station are treasures

KPFK basically turned my political life around after the first Gulf War.

They are still my #1 station...no contest.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

153. And if you like comedy with your politics, check out Jimmy Dore on KPFK.

One of my favorite podcasts.

[Dokkie]

56. yep

i hope next time she tells us something we dont already know

[RKP5637]

59. MSNBC was covering her today, but none mentioned anything about what she said,

maybe someone did, but I didn't hear about this anyplace. I'm sure MSM will put it on the last page if covered at all.

[elleng]

2. Quite remarkable!

[polichick]

3. I'm glad she has noticed - they're killing it here too!

[joeybee12]

4. Problem is, like so much of what's wrong, is our news channels/programs are

profit driven...the quaint idea of informing the public is a relic of the past.

[xiamiam]

6. or treating us as if we can think..al jazeera makes me hang my head in shame

over o reilly, scarborough, beck, limbaugh...buffoons for the sheep to follow..

[demigoddess]

74. another thing Reagan put into place.

We had a law that said news had to be 'in the public interest' and then the repubs got it overrulled and there were tons of firings from the news programs in CBS, NBC ,ABC etc.

[aquart]

159. Nixon was destroyed by three things: media, judiciary, Congress.

Republicans set out to make sure it would never happen again.

[tularetom]

5. That story will be ignored by the liberal media in the US

thereby proving her point.

[otohara]

7. True, True

Jon Stewart has tried for years to shame the MSM into doing a better job and still they SUCK more than ever.

[barbtries]

35. and the right wing

will run with it: sec of state unpatriotic, apologizing for US, blah, blah bullshit.

[markpkessinger]

109. WHAT LIBERAL MEDIA?

Seriously -- the suggestion that the U.S. media swings to the liberal side of things is so demonstrably untrue, and has been for at least the last 25 years, how can you make a statement like that with a straight face?

[TroglodyteScholar]

123. You must not be able to see his eyebrows.

It's a safe bet that was sarcasm.

[markpkessinger]

134. Mea culpa, mea culpa,, mea maxima culpa! ;) n/t

[tularetom]

124. See this little thingy?

:sarcasm:

It's a handy little device that you can use to indicate that you are merely trying to make a point but you don't really mean what you are saying.

Sometimes that's so obvious that you don't even need to use it.

I sorta thought the phrase "liberal media" was an example of that.

Maybe not.

[Vidar]

148. Apparently that would be Al-Jazeera, ain't ya heard?

[sasha031]

8. Al Jazeera is outstanding

our liberal media current obsession is with Charlie Sheen.

[xiamiam]

10. i actually used to feel sorry for paris hilton when she was used as a distraction

what was it then?..oh yeah, the lies about wmds..but look, paris over there..gheezh

[JDPriestly]

85. I do not watch the main newscasts anymore and am living in blissful

ignorance about Charlie Sheen.

Addicts are a dime a dozen in Los Angeles.

I don't need to watch shows about them on TV. No thanks.

[liberal N proud]

9. U.S. News agencies are embarrassing

If you can call them News agencies at all.

[xiamiam]

11. not news agencies..something quite different..sheepie influencing dumbing down programs

designed to keep multiple generations asleep and distracted

[liberal N proud]

13. Its called Propaganda

Pravda would be envious of our propaganda system, all under the illusion of a diverse, fair and balanced media.

[RKP5637]

61. Yeah, it's the ultimate in propaganda here, believing the crap because you are

free to view it - absolute smoke and mirrors, and deception fostered onto the masses as valid news.

[sasha031]

14. I was just wondering is she advocating for State TV

similar to BBC...

I would be for it I think as long as the teabagers are never in the WH.

[Turborama]

22. They already have Faux.

How could it be any worse than the last time they had the WH?

BTW the BBC isn't "State TV". It's paid for by a licence fee which all British TV owners have to pay direct to them.

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/understanding-your-tv-licence-top3/

Also, the impartiality rules for TV are very strict in Britain and are enforced by Ofcom.

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/broadcasting/broadcast-codes/broadcast-code/impartiality/

[karynnj]

26. No - she was speaking of the US Arab and English language broadcasts in the Middle East

Not what we in the US can see.

[Turborama]

37. Those channels broadcast globally, not just in the ME. BTW Fox is the only English 'news' channel...

....broadcasting live globally from America right now and they certainly "cannot fill that gap".

She could have been referring to Fox when she said this: "Our private media, particularly cultural programming often works at counter purposes to what we truly are as Americans."

CNN International do a really good job, actually, but their studios are outside the US.

[mwooldri]

71. CNN International rotate their studio output.

Some of it does come from the USA (Situation Room, Piers Morgan Tonight). But it's mostly London and Hong Kong reporting.

[Turborama]

120. True, but Situation Room isn't on any more, Piers Morgan Tonight is broadcast live

They used to broadcast a recording of Situation Room at this time, and that day's Larry King in the early evening. Now they show PMT live while it's broadcast and repeat it later in the early evening - when Larry King used to be shown. Which is doing CNN International a disservice.

In fact, CNN are doing themselves a disservice by not broadcasting both CNNI and CNN in America.

IMO The only US studio that "fills that gap" globally is AC360. Sometimes.

[mwooldri]

96. Therefore she's criticizing the government funded broadcasters...

Yes. It may come as a surprise to you but our government sends a lot of money to the Broadcasting Board of Governors, whose job it is to put a nice face on America and broadcast internationally a "balanced view of America" (quotes mine).

We're talking Voice of America (Radio & TV), Alhurra, Radio Free Europe, Radio & TV Marti, Al Sawa radio. Their budget is $767 million for 2012. As a comparison, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting had a budget of $495 million last year. Ironically a lot of "PBS" content (Newshour, Frontline, etc) ends up broadcast on VOA TV.

[karynnj]

100. Exactly that was what she was speaking of

[Love Bug]

66. News "entertainment" is more like it

You know, like how those wresting programs on Spike are "sports entertainment."

What our M$M does looks like news, but the fix is in.

[godai]

12. Also KBS World & NHKWorld for S Korea & Japan.

http://world.kbs.co.kr/english/
http://jibtv.com/

[somone]

15. We'll get to it - after the Charlie Sheen LIVE update at 11

[Alameda]

17. I'm so glad I don't know what the Charlie Sheen thing is about....

I have Link and Free Speech TV...and listen to KPFA or KALW....

[2banon]

29. hey neighbor!

calling in from jingletown .. :hi:

by the way, I love Alameda..

[Alameda]

51. Jingletown it way cool....

[2banon]

32. same here.. KPFA, KALW, FSRN, Democracy Now Al Jazeera

what else is there?

[Alameda]

54. There was KUSF

have you checked Save KUSF? http://www.savekusf.org/
It was there, the next day it wasn't. They didn't have a great signal, but there were some shows I loved. Tuned in and thought it was just a signal problem, found out, they have been bought.

[2banon]

79. missed my radar..

just moved here a year ago.. i discovered calx but didn't know about kusf... i'll check into.. was it a palace coup or another predatory takeover?

[Uncle Joe]

46. I doubt they will get to it after Sheen, it will just be some other high brow Jerry Springer story

of the day, week, month, quarter or year.

Brittany, Lindsay, Charlie, etc. etc. the corporate media will come up with someone else; during a crisis to take up precious air-time and divert the American Peoples' attention away from the critical issues of the day, it's all part of the dumbing down process.

[bemildred]

16. It's not a war, "information war" is equivalent to propaganda war, and that is not the problem.

The problem is that what passes for information in US media, to the extent that it is not drool, is marketing bullshit. There is nothing you can rely on, very little that you can use, and it will bore the socks off you.

[Turborama]

18. No, information is different from propaganda. That's the crux of the problem.

If it is a war, it's a war of information versus propaganda.

Al Jazeera English provides information, a LOT of it. From all over the world. Live. 24/7.

Corporation owned "U.S. News Agencies" provide easily-digested-lowest-common-denominatro-America-centric propaganda.

[Duck]

81. YES!!!

You are so right.

If you do a search on propaganda, you will find that after WWII studies were done to discover how the Nazi's were able to manipulate the German people. The principles of distortion and discrediting their opponents were effective and are exactly the ones used today by Fox, Rush and his ilk.

If you think that Palin or Rush came up with the idea of catering to the uneducated and uninformed to turn them against knowledge and facts, read this from Joseph Goebbels, minister of propaganda in Nazi Germany.

"The broad masses of the people have a primitive and incorruptible ability to believe that everything is possible and reachable if one devotes one's full energies and
fights with a strong and courageous heart. This ability to believe is rather weak in some circles, above all in those with money and education. They may trust more in pure cold reason than a glowing idealistic heart. Our so-called intellectuals do not like to hear this, but it is true anyway. They know so much that in the end they do not know what to do with their wisdom. They can see the past, but not much of the present, and nothing at all of the future.That is why their carping criticisms generally focus on laughable trivialities. Whenever some unavoidable difficulty pops up, the kind of thing that always happens, they are immediately inclined to doubt everything and to throw the baby out with the bath water. To them difficulties are not there to be mastered, but rather to be surrendered to. The people want nothing to do with these intellectual complainers."

Although more subtle, the distortions are in most newscasts. Recently Diane Sawyer was telling of the cuts to heating fuel subsidies for the poor. ABC then jumped to a clip of a working age black man with horrible English, complaining that he "needed dat money" .....the not so subtle implication was that why should tax dollars go to help some ignorant blacks too lazy to work or even speak properly.

A truly disgusting piece of propaganda.

[renate]

111. great post, and welcome to DU!

:hi:

[elias49]

135. I agree with you, but I'd argue that propagande predates WWII

In fact, according to Stewart Ewan, in his excellent book "PR - The Social History of Spin" you might mark the beginnings of truly methodical and scientific social engineering to the early 1900s when brilliant psychologists refined the tools of persuasion and sold America on the need to enter the first world war.
A great read! You should look it up!

Welcome to DU

[Duck]

157. Thanks

Thanks for the tip elias49.

The most horrific thing about well funded propaganda is how effective it is on a large percentage of the population. I know many otherwise intelligent and decent people that have had their critical thinking skills switched to the off position.

[Enthusiast]

149. Nice! Welcome to the DU!

The propaganda is killing us!

[DJ13]

19. Wouldnt breaking up our corporate media conglomerates be more effective

..... than throwing more government money at the problem?

[targetpractice]

20. Al Jazeera is pretty useless for the weather.

Every so often they'll do a 30 second global weather report that I find somewhat lacking in specifics. ;-)

Otherwise, I've been watching non-stop for weeks... Because, it's what a news network should be.

[sasha031]

21. I barely ever shut it off

:)

[rpannier]

104. Damned staright!

I can never rely on them to give me an in depth report on the weather
And their Oscar coverage was incredibly bad

on note: I laughed really hard at your subject line
Kudos

[David__77]

23. But... I thought "state TV" is baaaaad!

Wait, the US already runs state TV...

[Bragi]

24. Betcha this story play real wild on Fox /nt

[karynnj]

25. One minor problem, the article does not get the committee's name correct

It was the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

[defendandprotect]

27. And Verizon doesn't even carry Al Jazeera -- !!! HELP -- !!!

[sasha031]

43. you can stream it live, right here

http://english.aljazeera.net/

:hi:

[defendandprotect]

127. Yes, thank you !! .......I know, but ....

for some reason it seems to weaken my computer system --

so avoiding it for the meanwhile!

[mahatmakanejeeves]

28. Uh, Hillary....

"... the Russians have opened up an English language network. I've seen it in a couple of countries and it's quite instructive."

With all due respect, I watch it for free every night on northern Virginia's MHz. I'll bet you can get those broadcasts in DC too.

Yes, I have mentioned that station before. One more time:

MHz Networks schedule

[defendandprotect]

30. VIVA AL JAZEERA ENGLISH -- !!!

[valerief]

70. +1000

[idrahaje]

31. Well yeah i Fox has Palm trees in Madison

Yeah makes us look weird..


(First time I've made it to the site .. local ISP found it in their DNS server this morning)

headline is misleading, thought Hillary was dissing AJ. Nope. :) not sure about RT. But RT is better than Fox..

[jwirr]

33. Yeah, it actually talks about the real news instead of who did or did

not win the oscars. If this were true about what people over there think about America then how is it that Egypt seems to understand us so well? What she is saying is that we need a propaganda station that can lie to them the way it does to us. SEND FOX

[barbtries]

34. it's true

i doubt they have enough grace to be embarrassed though.

[PufPuf23]

36. Good for HRC to state the obvious.

I can't recommend (sends me back to proxy homepage) and DU is buggy as a proxy and change of password to read.

Let's experiment with "Post message" today.

Works.

Now let's test "Edit".

[Faryn Balyncd]

38. "Clinton says she is leading an effort to spread U.S. propaganda through new media, with twitter..."

Is she planning on "catapulting" it?

[jwirr]

40. The magazine USW@Work winter 2011 addition has a great article

on "More than Fox: Large Network of Independent Media offers news for the people by the people." It is a great article worth reading. If anyone knows how to link it I would thank them.

[hatrack]

41. That's right, Hillary - because they're doing their jobs - they are reporting the news

We used to do that, until it became unprofitable to do so.

[closeupready]

42. OMG - wow. Never thought I'd see the day when she takes the MSM to task.

Very impressed with her. K&R

[RKP5637]

63. +1, n/t

[Adsos Letter]

44. Baywatch?

[joshcryer]

45. Still syndicated and popular overseas.

Still. Yes.

[Adsos Letter]

132. That, in itself, must be a sign of the apocalypse...

:D

[JDPriestly]

88. American women are, in general, more modest than European

women.

When I moved back to the US, I brought a box of German knitting and other needlework magazines. Years later, I browsed through the magazines and was amazed to see an ad for some soap or something that featured a barebreasted woman -- in a needlework magazine. That is unheard of here.

American women are actually pretty modest by Western standards.

[Adsos Letter]

131. Yeah; now that I think on it, I remeber German television when I was stationed there in the 1970's

seems like they had quite a lot of partial nudity in their ads. I think they even had a syndicated family show in which everyone was nude.

I was just amazed Baywatch still showed up on anyone's teevee. :D

[Rabrrrrrr]

48. Oh, bullshit - al-jezeera hasn't spoken about Sheen at all today. If they don't know what's news,

why I should trust them with anything else?

[madrchsod]

49. cctv is a good network.

although it`s heavily censored what they do broadcast is informative.

[rpannier]

105. I get cctv here in Korea and find many of their interviews to be annoying

If the interviewee strays from the position the network wants the interviewer gets annoyed and often he cuts them off.
Their straight news coverage is good

[A Simple Game]

108. It wouldn't bother me if our networks did that with interviews.

Most of the time those interviewed don't even answer the questions and are still allowed to rattle on and on.

[madrchsod]

115. i enjoy the "life in china reports" and other info shows.

i pretty much avoid interviews.

[rpannier]

119. Agreed

I like getting to learn a little Chinese

[wickerwoman]

126. Exactly...

there are probably better examples she could have picked for "winning the information war". The right will pick up on "Hillary is a commie- she likes Russian, Chinese and Arab propaganda more than good red-blooded American news" meme and not on her underlying, true, point that American news is chockfull of superficial celebretainment and self-aggrandizing sockpuppets.

But I did like some of the in-depth half- or hour-long issue based programmes on CCTV. Kind of like Frontline or the McNeil Lehrer report and usually not too biased depending on what the issue was.

[indimuse]

50. Good for Hillary!

knr!

[NCcoast]

52. Our so called news media is doing a terrible job...

Isn't that the whole idea? Keeping us dumb, distracted and misinformed?

[RKP5637]

65. Exactly, all part of the plan. Uneducated and dumbed down by MSM. Just good

mindless robots.

[rucky]

53. Baywatch is still one of our #1 exports.

which explains why we're being left in the dust, globally.

We don't even lead the world in breast enhancements anymore.

[Beartracks]

55. Strange - US news agencies embarrass themselves, too! n/t

[Jester Messiah]

58. Gotta give her credit, when she's right she's really right!

Our national "news" outlets are a bad joke. NPR is the only one worth half a damn.

[benld74]

62. Our Private media = The Onion News!!!!

CLEVELAND—During an unexpected moment of clarity Tuesday, open-minded man Blake Richman was suddenly struck by the grim realization that he's squandered a significant portion of his life listening to everyone's bullshit, the 38-year-old told reporters.

A visibly stunned and solemn Richman, who until this point regarded his willingness to hear out the opinions of others as a worthwhile quality, estimated that he's wasted nearly three and a half years of his existence being open to people's half-formed thoughts, asinine suggestions, and pointless, dumb* stories.

"Jesus Christ," said Richman, taking in the overwhelming volume of useless crap he's actively listened to over the years. "My whole life I've made a concerted effort to give people a fair shake and understand different points of view because I felt that everyone had something valuable to offer, but it turns out most of what they had to offer was complete *shit."

According to Richman, it was just now hitting him how many hours of his life he's p*issed away listening intently to nonsense about celebrity couples, how good or bad certain pens are, and why a particular sports team might have a chance this year. The husband and father of two said that every time he's felt at all put out or bored by a *shit conversation—especially a speculative one about how bad allergy season was going to be—he should have just turned around, walked away, and gone rafting or repelling or done any of the millions of other things he's always wanted to do but never thought he had time for.

Read more: http://www.theonion.com/articles/openminded-man-grimly-... /

[provis99]

89. another delightful slag on CNN from today's Onion:

CNN Anchor Interviews Al Jazeera Anchor Who Interviewed Libyan Rebels
http://www.theonion.com/articles/cnn-anchor-interviews-al-jazeera-anchor-who-interv,19395/

[katty]

64. AlJazz is knocking it out of the park

[zentrum]

67. Bill Clinton accelerated

...our dumbing down and vulnerability to propaganda and the death of real news when he signed off on his media consolidation deal.

The news horse left the barn under Clinton. Now it's multiplied and is a herd.

She should ask that media consolidation be repealed. She should ask for a huge increase in the budget of NPR. The issue is much bigger and more fundamental than her little fiefdom.

[Initech]

68. US news agencies are embarrassing themselves.

[valerief]

69. But, but, but we have FOX!

:rofl:

[Citizen Worker]

72. Hillary has no further to look than Bill Clinton and the legislation he signed in '96 that made this

possible.

[leftstreet]

76. +1

Yep. If she's so worried about it, she should start a movement to repeal the bill

[joshcryer]

140. American News Media wasn't particularly good in 1996. Remember crossfire?

[slay]

75. Demand Al Jazeera in the USA!

see my sig line.

[Kolesar]

92. Al Jazeera is on one of the digital-PBS channels where I live...eom

[slay]

95. Nice

it's not on our AT&T Uverse - big surprise. I get most of my news online anyways - but a majority of people do not so I hope somehow these massive companies like AT&T and Time-Warner can be persuaded - or even forced - to carry Al Jazerra. Or carry a local PBS digital channel that would - either way. :hi:

[mwooldri]

99. One must-have product: Roku.

Also if you get a Roku, visit this site:

http://www.thenowhereman.com/roku - whoever this guy is does magic with the Roku box. They operate a Roku "private channel" (i.e. it's not on Roku's official list of channels) called Pod TV - or Nowhere TV - or whatever. The great thing is that there are a few good streaming news channels on there: BBC News (domestic UK version, not the World version), Al Jazeera English, France 24, CNN International, Russia Today (I think).... also a good amount of archived content in video podcast form...

If you need to get a Roku, Nowhere Man would like you to buy through this link: http://roku.tellapal.com/a/clk/mZLG0 - but the link is of course optional, get your Roku from where-ever... but Nowhere Man does a lot of Roku hacking and I appreciate his work.

This means you get to watch decent news channels that don't have the "talking heads", that do _REAL_ news, and don't have to have a computer hookup - watch it on a TV.

[ananda]

78. What US news agencies?

You mean the media propaganda arm of the corporate kleptocracy?

[jzodda]

80. AJE

Been watching lots of AJE since this mid east crisis began. I have to say its very informative.

[JDPriestly]

82. Hillary Clinton is right. Our media has failed us.

It's pretty bad when foreign media is more interesting and more reliable than our own.

Rupert Murdoch, please find a line of work that you can do well. Stop trying to be a newsman.

Palm trees in Wisconsin in the middle of winter. Is that is what is called reporting in the US?

Palm trees in Wisconsin in the middle of winter on Fox News. That pretty much sums up the American Mainstream Media as far as I am concerned.

Generally, the reporting from Tahrir Square in Egypt -- Anderson Cooper comes to mind -- was good.

But most of the reporting on American mainstream media is unwatchable with the exception of MSNBC, and it is often more commentary than really reporting.

[ileus]

86. who'd ah thought a ME new group would do a better job of covering ME events?

duh!

let's not be dumbasses...

[rabs]

97. Al Jaz is hardly a "new group"

It has been around for about 15 years. The English version about eight years.

It does not only cover the ME, but also Latin America, Europe, Asia Minor, Africa, Asia, Central America withnews and excellent docus from those regions.

You might recall that dubya/rumsfeld considered Al Jaz such a threat that their offices were bombed a couple of times, once in Baghdad and the other in Kabul.

Oh, and sorry, Al Jaz does not run ads for Cialis every few minutes.

[Nihil]

151. Too late ...

> let's not be dumbasses...

You'd already hit "Post message" ...
:P

[JDPriestly]

87. The headline is a little misleading. Al Jazeera is not embarrassing

the US. The American media is embarrassing the US.

[Corruption Winz]

91. Truthfully, I don't see how we could be losing this war...

I mean, I know all there is to know about Charlie Sheen snorting coke off a hookers ass. And honestly, what else is there to know in the world.

We aren't about losing. We are bi-winners in this country. ;]

[NeoConsSuck]

93. Hillary, you're losing the information war

because anyone with critical thinking skills knows American MSM is government propaganda. If I want national news, I'll use your MSM. If I want world news, I'll go elsewhere.

The USA military bombed Al Jezeera headquarters in Iraq because they were disseminating the truth, while your MSM were telling lies.

[Catherina]

162. +1 n/t

[robertpaulsen]

94. They sure are. And RT is covering how embarrassing US news is on Wisconsin.

Russia Today Brings Wisconsin Into the Open…
by Kylesvet on February 22, 2011

Demonstrations are going on in the US state of Wisconsin: But you would not know it walking past a news stand in the USA. American papers have photographs of protests in other countries on their front pages, with no mention of the estimated 70,000 protesting on US soil, fighting for their rights at home…

http://windowstorussia.com/russia-today-brings-wisconsion-into-the-open.html

[Blue Owl]

98. Let's clarify...

What is on American's TVs is not news.

It's PROPAGANDA.

[A Simple Game]

110. Now be fair, it's not all propaganda.

Some of it is gossip. But the part that bugs me the most is how much they talk about each other, and MSNBC is probably the worst at this. Keith used to be bad about it, Ed is terrible about it, Rachel is not too bad but most of the talking heads on MSNBC do it. If I wanted to know what is going on at FOX, I would watch FOX. MSNBC and CNN give Glenn Beck hours of free promotion every week, and CNN tries to keep up with them.

Take away the gossip and promoting each other and the 24 hr. networks could wrap it up after 8 hrs. most days.

[BR_Parkway]

101. Technically, the US news agencies have embarrassed themselves

with their dumb down programming, celebrity chasing and compulsive need to try to show two valid sides to every issue - even when one side is an idiotic teabagger spouting talking points in complete contrast to the actual facts.

[AnOhioan]

102. Of course Al Jazeera is embarrassing US news outlets.....

They do a much better job than anything the US has. Oh...and Hillary? Forget "propaganda", just try honest reporting...I know....very hard for you to grasp the concept.

[rpannier]

103. You mean events in Libya, Yemen, North Korea and Belorus are more important and informative than

1. Lindsay Lohan being arrested again
2. A week long special on what retirees are doing with their retirement
3. the Oscars and what the people were wearing
4. Does Obama not wearing a tie make people think of the Preident of Iran

[MyrnaLoy]

106. More and more,

every day I see that Edward R. Murrow was right about television and media.

[Demeter]

107. American News Agencies Embarrassed Themselves

Al Jezeera shows the world how it's done.

[bvar22]

112. I enjoy this opportunity to praise Hillary.

Well Done!

[eridani]

113. Quite correct Madam Secretary

Now, what are we going to do about it?

[Shining Jack]

114. +1000

[pam4water]

116. What does she mean by killing it?

[pinboy3niner]

118. LIBYA: Media report Brega "impossible to reach" as AJE reports from...Brega!

Now here's an interesting report, in the Sydney Morning Herald. It contains the line, "Brega itself was impossible to reach on Wednesday." A quick Google news search will reveal that it's a line that has been repeated over and over again. Check for yourself. Our count is nearly 17,000 news articles repeating the line. Obviously we've not checked them all.

But, equally obviously, given our reporting through the day from Brega, and our photos from the town and its hospital, it wasn't exactly "impossible" to get there...

--AJE Live Blog - Libya March 2
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-march-2

[texasleo]

121. yes!

[spicegal]

122. The dumbing down of America. It's truly sad. I worry

about how we're going to be able to compete in a global economy. I think our heyday has passed and we're on the down slope. Perhaps it' just the normal evolution that occurs in civilizations. We're like an addict that has to hit rock bottom before crawling out of the huge hole we've dug for ourselves. Judging by the last election, people in this country still haven't been able to connect the dots, and allowed the GOP to resume their same old tricks.

[bhikkhu]

125. The state department has no business writing the news

you may as well just call it the Ministry of Propaganda. They've done a miserable and destructive job of it, and need a head-to-toe reworking before they deserve a thing. The corruption at all levels of the state department is well documented by wikileaks, lately, and their high-handed bullying smear campaign and behind the scenes deal-making and manipulation (which may still wind up with death sentences for the "guilty" in the wikileaks case) is an example of the way they have represented the US around the world for many years now.

[tiny elvis]

133. looking forward to all usa networks quoting our state foreign news service

your comment may be at counter purposes to what we truly are as americans

[tiny elvis]

128. some people are misunderstanding what she is saying

when the state department says, 'counter purposes to what we truly are as Americans,'
it means, 'not the state's message'
clinton is not praising the quality of foreign teevee
she is praising others' propaganda machines and saying it is the job of the state to compete in that field
thus the connection to the state dept's budget, which has nothing to do with domestic teevee

[cdsilv]

130. 100 foriegn language channels here on Comcast in Houston...

at least some residents of this country get to see some very different versions of news (proaganda).

[joshcryer]

141. Huh? She's saying our media is theatrics that doesn't speak to what the US is about.

[Turborama]

143. HRC: "our news... is not particularly informative to us, let alone foreigners."

“Al Jazeera has been the leader in literally changing people’s minds and attitudes. And like it or hate it, it is really effective.

In fact viewership of al Jazeera is going up in the United States because it’s real news. You may not agree with it, but you feel like you’re getting real news around the clock instead of a million commercials and, you know, arguments between talking heads and the kind of stuff that we do on our news which, you know, is not particularly informative to us, let alone foreigners.”

Video of her saying exactly this posted here in DU: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x559226#559265

Direct YouTube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zW4AKrOIak

[Turborama]

136. HRC: "Viewership Of Al Jazeera Is Going Up In The United States Because It's Real News" (Video)

Posted just now here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x559226

Technically, she's talking about Al Jazeera English, which is a totally different channel than Al Jazeera, but it's till a tectonic shift in attitude compared to the last administration who called them "terrorist TV" and tried to literally wipe them off them map.

[democracy1st]

137. K & R

[lonestarnot]

138. And that ugly fucking claud dirt ball kept cutting her off!

[Imagevision]

139. Is it really that hard to Gadafi's co-ordinates and simply use a smart bomb to be smart...?!

[BrightKnight]

142. Al Jazeera has become a very respectable news organization. - n/t

[BobTheSubgenius]

144. It wouldn't be such an issue, if it wasn't for

US news agencies embarrassing THEMSELVES.

I think the only worse 'bang for the buck' than the health care system is the "news." For the billions that are poured into it, it sure delivers a bad product.

[No Elephants]

145. Al Jazeera is good; ergo, DOS needs more $$ for pro-US propagandizing.

:wtf:

[Posteritatis]

146. The wording sort of suggests she thinks AJ is the enemy

Talk about the US losing the information war followed shortly by saying al-Jazeera is winning it carries some irritating connotations, even if she's also taking US media to task for dropping the ball.

[Turborama]

147. I know what you mean

But have a listen to what else she had to say: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x559226

I don't like:

"like it or hate it"

or

"You may not agree with it, but you feel like you’re getting real news"



couching, but it is a vast improvement on how the last administration used to talk about them.

[Doctor_J]

150. Maybe if Hate Radio and Cable "News" were working for us instead of the terrorists

If you really want to hear anti-American propaganda, just turn on AM radio.

[Salander]

152. She should have included Press TV, another outlet that's cooking US MSM

[Name removed]

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[Javaman]

155. That's right hillary, blame crappy tv shows for our problems.

never mind the fact that PBS and NPR are grossly underfunded, the fairness act virtually eliminated any shred of reality news broadcasting and armed forces radio carries rushballs and no one talking from the left.

Yeah, it's all baywatchs and WWF fault. It's the fault of the tv corps pushing that bullshit overseas. period.

What is embarrassing is Al-Jazeera does actual reporting. How dare they shame our news corporations...corporations.

[Better Believe It]

156. So the State Department is at war with Al Jazeera. Are they international terrorists?

[peacetalksforall]

160. The best way we can get back at corporate television is to expand our reliance on

alternative sources and teach others.

Edited to move the rest to a separate post - below.

[peacetalksforall]

161. What she means by 'private'?

I couldn't figure out what she meant. I'm now sure she means the private as in companies like Radio Marti. Privatized. And probably the other stataions. They coordinate with the State Dept? But, none of them are owned by the government?

If yes, she is comparing al Jazeera to Radio Marti - what an insult.

[JanDutchy]

163. So I read all your contributions; But wat is your opinion on her 'conclusion'?

My opinion:

I was amazed that in the US it wasn't possible to receive live AJE broadcasting; just to have the choice. The choice to listen to other opinions in order to have a balanced own opinion.

Instead of the discussion of ab-normal non-acceptance of marriage between men and the export of the violence.

Did you ever spoke on the bad export of the ideas going with that?

Is it a matter of interest, I mean share-interest which withold the freedom of people. Instaed profit can follow people, your country changed that idea: profit is the goal of people.

Pitty......., slaves?

----

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x592130

[and-justice-for-all]

164. The domestic media never tells us jack shit...

Rachel Maddow is the only one I would pay attention to.

Democracy Now however, is excellent stuff, if you really want to know whats going down, watch that or visit their web site. The only way I can watch AJE is via Link TV, and I have not seen it for sometime. I can not watch the news all the time, if I did I would probably have a stroke.