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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 01:17 PM
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DA to seek death penalty for abortionist Gosnell
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer

Philadelphia prosecutors said this morning they are considering seeking the death penalty against three others charged in the operation of Kermit Gosnell's West Philadelphia abortion clinic.

Assistant District Attorneys Joanne Pescatore and Christine Wechsler confirmed that the death penalty is under review for former Gosnell employees Lynda Williams, 42, of Wilmington; Steven Massof, 48, of Pittsburgh; and Adrienne Moton, 33, of Upper Darby.

All three are accused of aiding Gosnell in seven abortions in which infants were born live and viable - and then allegedly killed by the 70-year-old physician.

The prosecutors, however, said they had agreed with the defense attorneys for the three to postpone a final decision on the death penalty for 60 days while both sides continue investigating the case.

Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/117244593.html
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 01:44 PM
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1. "Abortionist" is not an accurate descriptor for this man ...
... "Sociopathic Freak", however, is.

Let's not let the media link him to other doctors who safely and responsibly perform (still legal, at the moment) abortions.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 04:43 PM
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16. No, it's accurate
He operated a pill mill by day and an abortion mill by night. And he was licensed by the state of PA to do abortions. He tended to do the abortions that other doctors were uncomfortable with performing. More money in those
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 01:51 PM
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2. WTF?!
How late term were they?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 02:05 PM
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5. 4th trimester
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2banon Donating Member (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 01:54 PM
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3. so many questions..
not addressed in this article. I'd be interested to learn the facts on the backdrop of this story... for instance, who wrote and filed this report, and how is an office clerk involved, and what patient received too much anasthesia, how many years has this doctor been able commit these horrible acts if what is described in news report factual. so many questions.
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 03:20 PM
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11. This is the grand jury report
I had PTSD after reading this and I'm a nurse.

http://www.phila.gov/districtattorney/PDFs/GrandJuryWomensMedical.pdf
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2banon Donating Member (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 04:12 PM
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14. thanks..i'll give this a looksie...
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2banon Donating Member (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 04:20 PM
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15. omg. i can't get through the first page.. this man is evil incarnate
psychopathic, disgusting, horrific. i'm beyond appropriate words.

When I'm better able to withstand the details, i'll read it through.. but i'll really have to steel myself in advance. in the meantime, i'm saving the grandjury report on my hard drive in the interim.. appreciate you providing the link, it's so important to have the full story to the extent that it is known.

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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 09:15 PM
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20. Not me; I dissociated.
I've worked in the medical field, and have watched several deaths I used to do EEG "Death Studies". I also have known close to 20 women who have had abortions, two of them pre-1973 "back alley" abortions.

What Dr. Gosnell did was so far beyond the pale, I have nothing to compare it to. I can't imagine how he did it.

--d!
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 10:34 PM
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22. Oh my god.
This is just beyond reprehensible.

• Murder of Karnamaya Mongar
• Murders of babies born alive
• Infanticide
• Violations of the Controlled Substances Act
• Hindering, Obstruction, and Tampering
• Perjury
• Illegal late-term abortions
• Violations of the Abortion Control Act
• Violations of the Controlled Substances Act
• Abuse of Corpse
• Theft by Deception
• Conspiracy
• Corrupt Organization
• Corruption of Minors
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 02:00 PM
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4. Abortionist, in the same way that Capone was a "liquor salesman." (nt)
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 02:07 PM
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6. He was quite fond of D&E's
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 02:14 PM
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7. "Illegal abortions for poor women"
This is what happens when women can not get legal and safe terminations.

Unless they tell us the gestational ages of the fetuses, I can not make a decision about whether they were killed. A nonviable 22 week fetus may have a heart beat and respirations for a while. The issue is whether or not the preterm deliveries could have survived had they been transferred to an NICU and placed on a vent.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 02:24 PM
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8. Gestational ages...
http://www.delconewsnetwork.com/articles/2011/01/23/news_of_delaware_county/news/doc4d38563144c6a641645546.txt

Under Pennsylvania law, abortions are illegal after 24 weeks of pregnancy, or just under six months, and most doctors won’t perform them after 20 weeks because of the risks, prosecutors said.

In a typical late-term abortion, the fetus is dismembered in the uterus and then removed in pieces. That is more common than the procedure opponents call “partial-birth abortion,” in which the fetus is only partially extracted before being destroyed. Prosecutors said Gosnell instead delivered many of the babies alive.

He “induced labor, forced the live birth of viable babies in the sixth, seventh, eighth month of pregnancy and then killed those babies by cutting into the back of the neck with scissors and severing their spinal cord,” District Attorney Seth Williams said.

Gosnell referred to the practice as “snipping,” prosecutors said.

Prosecutors estimated Gosnell ended hundreds of pregnancies by cutting the spinal cords, but they said they couldn’t prosecute more cases because he destroyed files.

“These killings became so routine that no one could put an exact number on them,” the grand jury report said. “They were considered ‘standard procedure.’”



Women can't get safe, legal "terminations" in or around West Philadelphia, PA? Who knew?

:shrug:
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 05:10 PM
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18. " Women can't get safe, legal "terminations" in or around West Philadelphia, PA? Who knew?"
Do you know the answer to that question? Your phrasing implies that you think you do...
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 05:13 PM
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19. This is EXACTLY what happens.
If women had access to safe and reasonably priced abortions (last I heard, Planned Parenthood still charges about $300), they wouldn't be waiting until 24+ weeks to get seen by butchers like this in a "clinic" which was covered in blood and vomit and smelled of cat feces.

But as to your other point, these were clearly illegal under PA law, which puts the cutoff at around 24 weeks.
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 02:33 PM
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9. Prosecutorial misconduct should carry a death penalty.
That would fix our whole broken, unjust legal system in a big hurry. I have had enough of these pricks. That is it! Lets get together and tear down the Bastille.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 03:15 PM
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10. No misconduct here. This guy is a butcher.
The stories have been horrific. Try live-born children murdered right after birth.
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julian09 Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 03:26 PM
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12. He should get the death penalty
They should dismember him live; he's inhuman probably
wouldn't feel a thing.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 03:27 PM
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13. What misconduct have to prosecutors committed in this case?
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 05:07 PM
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17. Uhh, it's not abortion if it's fourth trimester or later... (nt)
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 09:55 PM
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21. now what about those who oppose both abortion and the death penalty?
this brings an interesting dilemma. Gosnell should regardless never ever ever be allowed to live in civilized society ever ever ever again.
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