Fully loaded LI man who shot EMT had arsenal

[MyrnaLoy]

Source: New York Post

The crazed gunman who shot an EMT after an accident on Long Island was armed to the teeth with six assault weapons -- and hellbent on carrying out mass murder shortly after having a blowup with his wife, sources told The Post yesterday.

Beller -- son of well-to-do Manhattan oral surgeon David Beller -- was armed with a cache of guns and wore a bandoleer of bullets, cops said. In addition to the AK-47 clone equipped with a green laser sight, he had a Tec-9 semiautomatic, a .357 Magnum, a .32-caliber handgun and two other rifles.




Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/fully_loaded_PvVuIJ4c4pERsYhDIQ1IjJ

[jacquelope]

1. Good thing this maniac left his PIP-Boy3000 at home.

Man, I hope I don't get flamed for that one.
Thank God no one got killed except for him. Best wishes for the EMT guy's swift recovery. Apparently he's already posting again on Facebook.

[Javaman]

pipboy wouldn't help him unless of course he had

big guns attribute.

[denbot]

39. .

[Sherman A1]

2. I can only say....

:banghead:

[Atypical Liberal]

3. Suicide by cop

Sounds like suicide by cop to me.

Article with video:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/03/02/2011-03-02_motorist_who_shot_long_island_paramedic_carried_aresenal_of_guns_and_prepped_for.html

dispatch call of the actual event:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKzl0hFAvUA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

The article in the original post is riddled with inaccuracies and contradictions. An SKS and an AK-47 are two different rifles. The two pistols are not assault weapons.

And of course it's worth mentioning that the guy had a past criminal history, writing bad checks in Florida, and alcohol was involved.

[MyrnaLoy]

4. it's also worth mentioning that

the NRA would like guys like this to be able to purchase firearms. "To be absolutely clear, the NRA believes it is both constitutional and appropriate to disarm convicted felons,” NRA Director of Federal Affairs Chuck Cunningham wrote in a letter of support for the bill. “However, we also believe that no person should lose the right to arms due to convictions for minor, non-violent crimes, especially those that occurred many years in the past.” http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/ammunition/2009/05/second-amendment-restoration-act-re-introduced

[LawnKorn]

5. So that means Belle writing bad checks negates his right to self defense

[Kolesar]

6. Was that what Beller did yesterday? Self defense? eom

[Eagle_Eye]

7. He shoulda' have had his right to keep and bare arms stifled because he bounced a check

wooda' prevented this whole mess if everyone was considered a criminal until they proved they ain't!
:sarcasm:

[Kolesar]

8. Your friends may cheat and steal from people

But mine don't, Eddie Eagle.

[Atypical Liberal]

9. I agree with that.

I agree that you should not loose your constitutional right to bear arms, or to vote, or any other such right over some petty offense. And in fact, only certain crimes can get your constitutional right to keep and bear arms revoked.

I only pointed out this person's criminal history because most people who commit homicide with firearms have extensive past criminal histories including, on average, four felonies.

I would not be surprised if this guy had a more extensive criminal history than just writing bad checks.

[jpak]

14. "loose"? lol - anyone that has a felony conviction should have their guns confiscated - fuck the NRA

yup

[Atypical Liberal]

17. Here is what currently defines a person prohibited from owning firearms

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00000922----000-.html

(1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year;

(2) is a fugitive from justice;

(3) is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance...

(4) has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution;

(5) who, being an alien—
(A) is illegally or unlawfully in the United States; or
(B) except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa...

(6) who has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions;

(7) who, having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his citizenship;

(8) is subject to a court order that restrains such person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner of such person or child of such intimate partner or person, or engaging in other conduct that would place an intimate partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury to the partner or child, except that this paragraph shall only apply to a court order that—
(A) was issued after a hearing of which such person received actual notice, and at which such person had the opportunity to participate; and
(B)
(i) includes a finding that such person represents a credible threat to the physical safety of such intimate partner or child; or
(ii) by its terms explicitly prohibits the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against such intimate partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury; or

(9) has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.

I think you'll find the NRA agrees with most, if not all of this.

[jpak]

22. Most but no all - yup

n/t

[Atypical Liberal]

27. Which parts do you think the NRA disagrees with?

n/t

[jpak]

31. Who cares they suck

yup

[X_Digger]

32. So you don't know? Again? n/t

[Atypical Liberal]

34. They help Democrats get elected.

Who cares they suck

So, I guess you can't tell me which parts of the US code that defines persons prohibited from owning firearms that the NRA disagrees with?

Also, the NRA helps pro-firearm Democrats get elected. Does that suck, too?

[MyrnaLoy]

29. that can't really be the case,

the NRA can't agree with "most, if not all of this", as you stated because here's what they say: "To be absolutely clear, the NRA believes it is both constitutional and appropriate to disarm convicted felons,” NRA Director of Federal Affairs Chuck Cunningham wrote in a letter of support for the bill. “However, we also believe that no person should lose the right to arms due to convictions for minor, non-violent crimes, especially those that occurred many years in the past.” http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/ammunition/2009/05/...

[X_Digger]

33. "minor, non-violent crimes" -- don't typically involve prison terms longer than a year..

Did you miss that part in post #17?

[LanternWaste]

37. Possession of an ounce of pot would never get anyone more than a year...

"minor, non-violent crimes" -- don't typically involve prison terms longer than a year..."

Possession of an ounce of pot would never get anyone more than a year... :shrug:

[X_Digger]

38. That's a drug policy issue, not a firearms issue.

We really need to end the war on (some) drugs.

[Vinee]

16. as the S.S. America continues to sink, we'll be seeing more of this I predict.

prolonged stress has a way of leading to psychotic episodes like this and it sounds like this guy had been dealing with his share of stress.

[geckosfeet]

10. A bandoleer. That pretty much says it all AFAIC. eom

[Atypical Liberal]

12. Ban bandoleers!

That will be next.

[WatsonT]

20. If you outlaw bandoliers

only outlaws will have bandoliers.

And this lady:

[xchrom]

11. recommend

[jpak]

13. This NRA militiaman was not well regulated

yup

[Atypical Liberal]

18. Think poop, not rules.

In the 18th century, "well-regulated" meant regulated like your colon, not regulated like with rules.

Additionally, I don't see anything that links this shooter to the NRA.

[WatsonT]

21. Seems like he also wasn't in the NRA

or the militia (law abiding citizens and whatnot).

[fascisthunter]

15. "A well armed society is a polite society", see?

[Atypical Liberal]

19. In the end...

In the end, it was people with guns who restored order.

[WatsonT]

23. Shh

that's a secret.

Guns only exist to kill innocent people, they serve no other purpose.

So if you see someone with a gun, call the cops and they will come and disarm them with their assault-pillows.

[Vinee]

26. Assault weapons are illegal in New York. See how well that worked.

Oh yeah, they also have some of the strictest general gun control laws in the country. look how well that prevented gun crime.

[fascisthunter]

35. yeah and more guns make it better

dur.....

[ileus]

24. That's one scary arsenal....

[ileus]

25. SKS AK-47-style rifle...Idiots....was it a AK or an SKS?

[Taverner]

28. Something tells me he might be a Beck listener

Just a hunch :shrug:

[Xenotime]

36. Agreed. These wackjobs are taking their marching orders from RW hate broadcasts

[formercia]

30. What was the .32 for?

Was he going to disguise himself as a Pimp?