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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 01:50 PM
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Libyan army beat men to death: Calgary witness
Source: CBC News

A Calgary man who escaped from Libya says he witnessed horrific acts of brutality carried out by Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi's army.

Arif Pervez was working for the Libyan-based Waha Oil company in a desert village about 600 kilometres south of Benghazi when protests broke out.

He says a Libyan military plane landed at the local airstrip a few days into the fighting and soldiers rounded up oil workers and villagers.

The soldiers randomly selected two men from the crowd before they beat them to death in front of everyone, he told CBC News.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/03/05/libya-calgary.html
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 03:36 PM
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1. Full on Gestapo tactics.
Fucking animals
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 03:54 PM
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2. Libya was a mafia state.
Councils were appointed by Gaddafi and if they were not 100% behind Gaddafi they would be tortured or imprisoned.
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reorg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 04:01 PM
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3. could be true
who knows. However, this report leaves many questions open. Why did the army arrive in that remote village in the first place, and why did they leave again, who are the "gangs and looters" the Calgary Indian needed to be protected from and how come the "villagers" have AK-47s? And why isn't the story worth an interview but is read out in less than 2 minutes by pretty young female announcers instead?
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:02 PM
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4. Yes .... I greatly doubt anything awful is really happening ....
All lies .... lies ....
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reorg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:42 PM
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5. when I watched this pretty young girl
Edited on Sat Mar-05-11 05:52 PM by reorg
testifying in front of Congress about these brutal Iraqi soldiers throwing the incubator babies out on the street it gave me pause. A lot. But I have become somewhat more skeptical since then. Perhaps the effect of advancing age.
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devils chaplain Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:49 PM
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6. The thing is...
These aren't just isolated reports of murder and brutality. This is just one report among many.
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reorg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 06:07 PM
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8. must have missed that
there are many reports about the army killing "protesters"/insurgents - but it's never quite clear to me what the actual situation was.

The Egyptians killed some 300 *peaceful* demonstrators, some of them right in front of Aljazeera cameras. There was outrage, but not a peep about military intervention, not even a direct request by allied countries for Mubarak to resign. With Libya, everything seems to be different.
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DRex Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:50 PM
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7. Yeah, pretty young girls are always suspect...
???
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reorg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 06:10 PM
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9. no, you are missing the point
pretty young girls always have this aura of innocence. We are more likely to believe them than an old fart with a wig.
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DRex Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 08:51 PM
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10. So we should habitually distrust them then?
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reorg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 09:55 PM
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11. no, we should distrust any story
Edited on Sat Mar-05-11 09:59 PM by reorg
that leaves so many questions open. Gangs? Looting? AK-47s? What would be the point of the military arriving there, torturing and killing two random people and leaving again?

It reminds me of the "interviews" by Ms Amanpour in border refugee camps shortly after the Kosovo bombing started. We heard many wild stories, some of them seemed to echo and confirm each other, none of them were vetted. Some elements were added by the reporter, such as that the people were fleeing from the Serbs when in fact many of them were fleeing the bombs, or that they were thrown out of the country when in fact they had been evacuated from certain border areas where fighting was expected.
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