Pirates raid Japanese trawler off Peru

[Judi Lynn]

Source: ABC News

Pirates raid Japanese trawler off Peru
By North Asia correspondent Mark Willacy

Updated 2 hours 56 minutes ago

A Japanese tuna trawler off the South American coast has been boarded by a gang who call themselves the pirates of the sea.

Japanese trawler Kenyu Maru 2 was anchored five kilometres off the Peruvian coast when 20 pirates scaled aboard before dawn.

The gang surprised the 15-member crew, tied their hands and feet and took money, mobile phones and communications equipment before escaping in two row boats.

It is the second time this year that a foreign ship has been raided by the criminals.

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[ChairmanAgnostic]

2. The open seas are again dangerous

[dipsydoodle]

3. It might be more appropriate

if Latin American countries themselves carried out pirate raids on Spanish ships.

[DCKit]

4. Criminals? How about the guys stealing their tuna?

Five K off the coast is a bit close and puts them in competition with the locals.

[slackmaster]

6. Do you have any evidence that the tuna operation was not lawful?

:kick:

[DCKit]

7. If I can see your factory fishing trawler from the beach, you're not in international waters. nt

[Renew Deal]

9. Proof?

Do you have proof what you're saying and proof that the trawler didn't have the right to be there? And even if you did, do two wrongs now make a right?

[DCKit]

11. See: Somalia nt

[Renew Deal]

15. So the answer is no.

And the Somalia reference is BS too. The toxic waste dumping excuse is a fabrication for suckers.

[slackmaster]

10. Let's assume you are correct. Does that necessarily mean the tuna operation was unlawful?

:hi:

[DCKit]

12. No, as far as I know, the current government of Peru is as corrupt as ever.

They'd sell out their own people for the yen every damn time and let them starve for lack of fish (or anything else they could sell off).

The few Peruvians I know are upper-class, right wingers from hell, and have no sympathy for their countrymen. It's a "Let them eat cake" state of mind across the ruling class.

[Renew Deal]

8. People will fall for anything

:dunce:

[slackmaster]

5. The result would have been different had they targeted my commercial fisherpeople friends

They are always heavily armed.

[peacetalksforall]

13. Take a look at the site and map - land is at the bottom.

This post meant for slackmaster

Take a look at the map and the site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_waters

12 nautical miles is about 13.8 miles.
5 kilometers (from the article)is about 3.1 miles.

If I have that right - they were within Peru's water.....

i.e., they were within Peru's territorial waters.

[slackmaster]

14. Let's assume they are in Peru's territorial waters

Does that necessarily mean the tuna fishing operation is unlawful?

[peacetalksforall]

16. Do you want people to do your work for you. It appears you are trying to say that it

is legal - so dig down and give us the link to prove yourself.

slackmaster is your user name. hmmmmmmm!

[slackmaster]

17. I'm responding to reply #4 in which another user advanced a specific claim

A claim that is empirically testable, and the burden of proof is on the person who made the claim.

[friendly_iconoclast]

18. The onus is upon the person making the claim- and so far, all we have is a claim.

Any claim made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.