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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 11:02 AM
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Berlusconi has 4-hour jaw and dental surgery
Source: AP

ROME -- Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi underwent jaw and dental surgery for four hours Monday to repair damage suffered when a man hurled a statuette at him in 2009.

The 74-year-old Berlusconi was operated on with general anesthesia in Milan, said a statement from his office that quoted his personal doctor, Alberto Zangrillo.

Berlusconi was in good condition after the operation and had already returned to his villa in Arcore near Milan, Zangrillo told the ANSA news agency.

The premier suffered a broken nose and two broken teeth when a man hurled a miniature statue of Milan's cathedral at him at close range at the end of a political rally in Milan on Dec. 13, 2009. The attacker had a history of psychological problems.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/07/AR2011030701321.html
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 11:04 AM
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1. Get well soon, Silvio!
So you can stand trial.

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 11:05 AM
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2. 'Fraid my initial thought was...
'oh, did they decide that the only way of possibly saving his career was to wire his jaw shut?'

I hope he makes a good recovery - and that his use of his jaw does end his career!
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 01:57 PM
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6. lol, my exact thoughts nt
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 11:09 AM
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3. Were they able to extract his foot from his mouth?
I realize medical science can only do so much.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 11:13 AM
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4. They write themselves, don't they?
LOL
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 01:02 PM
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11. while they had him under anasthesia, they should have taken care of
careless dick, too...hmmm...
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 01:37 PM
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5. Berlusconi-deeply flawed, but many of the charges are due to his deal w/ Russia(Southstream Pipeline
There are deep geo-political currents that run under this whole story. The USA hates the South Stream Pipeline, as it allows Russia to bypass US/UK/NATO puppet states and deliver oil and gas directly to the EU. http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/pipeline-projects-to-europe-not-compatible/429461.html It is a direct competitor with the US/EU-backed Turkish Nabucco pipeline. In addition, some of the Milan judges (judges in Italy have tremendous powers under their constitution) who have tried to indict Berlusconi in the past have previous ties to NATO/CIA/MI6 complex. I say follow the dark-pool money, when in doubt.


excellent article
http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/2011/02/destabilizing-italy-why-is-berlusconi.html



Putin and Berlusconi seal ‘South Stream’ pipeline deal

http://www.euractiv.com/en/energy/putin-berlusconi-seal-south-stream-pipeline-deal/article-182435
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 06:09 PM
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7. While there may be corruption on all sides...
let us note that 'PennyForYourThoughts' is a highly dodgy site. It links to such sites as InformationClearingHouse, WhatReally(Never)Happened, and Ziofascism; and directly proposes, among much else, that vaccine manufacturors circulate viruses to test their vaccines; that Hitler was descended from the Rothschild family; that Charles Darwin was an inbred elitist who proposed the theory of the 'survival of the fittest' in a social-political (rather than biological) sense; and that 'the global warming agenda is being funded with tens of billions of dollars as a mechanism to create global governance'.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:15 PM
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8. I used the article due to its links to original sources, in regards to some of the other things
Number one, yes some of tht website's links are not the greatest.

but.........


Vaccines are a serious danger in many cases, and in different ways

Homeless people die after bird flu vaccine trial in Poland
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/2235676/Homeless-people-die-after-bird-flu-vaccine-trial-in-Poland.html

Polio vaccine blamed for outbreaks in Nigeria
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32418446/ns/health-infectious_diseases/

Baxter Sent Bird Flu Virus to European Labs by Error
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aTo3LbhcA75I

Vaccines as Biological Weapons? Live Avian Flu Virus Placed in Baxter Vaccine Materials Sent to 18 Countries
http://www.naturalnews.com/z025760.html

Flu jab linked to fits in under fives: officials
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7918351/Flu-jab-linked-to-fits-in-under-fives-officials.html

Does virus vaccine increase the risk of cancer?
http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/world-news/2009/08/07/swine-flu-health-expert-warning/does-virus-vaccine-increase-risk-of-cancer.html

Wolfgang Wodarg, head of health at the Council of Europe - Swine flu 'a false pandemic' to sell vaccines
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/swine-flu-a-false-pandemic-to-sell-vaccines-expert-says/story-e6frev00-1225818409903

next topic

The Darwins, Huxleys, Wedgewoods, etc were inbred ( http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/04/science/04darwin.html
) eugenic elitists, who were large power brokers through the British Roundtable groups, which morphed into the Royal Institute of Foreign Affairs and its American counterpart, The Council on Foreign Relations in NYC. These groups and their member's Foundations (ie, Ford, Rockefeller, etc) helped set up the eugenics laws of Nazi Germany, as well as laying foundations of eugenics in the UN.
The Rockefeller's' chief executive of these institutions was the fascist Swiss psychiatrist Ernst Rudin, assisted by his proteges Otmar Verschuer and Franz J. Kallmann. In 1932, the British-led "Eugenics'' movement designated the Rockefeller's' Dr. Rudin as the president of the worldwide Eugenics Federation. The USA counterpart was the American Eugenics Society, which turned into Planned Parenthood through the latter's founder,(and Nazi and Klan supporter) Margaret Sanger.

finally

In regards to Hitler and the Rothschilds (as well as USA) financing, I focus on the following (I dont care about about his genetics).


Averell Harriman and his brother Roland, founded one of the biggest banks in the World, Brown Brothers Harriman. This bank was like the Goldman Sachs of the 1930's and 1940's.

One of the founding partners of Brown Bros. Harriman, and point man for German investment was none other than Prescott Bush, son-in-law of George Herbert Walker (also employed at BBH) the father of George HW Bush, and grandfather of George W Bush.

BBH were the chief USA private banking source (along with the Rockefeller's Chase Manhattan Bank) of money that funded the rapid rise of Hitler and the rebuild of the German military-industrial complex via hundreds of billions (in todays dollars) in investments and loans to Krups, I.G. Farben, etc.

Also involved, in the Euro side were the British Rothschild-controlled Bank for Trade and Shipping (Bank voor Handel and Scheepvaart) in Rotterdam, their proxy Emil Georg von Stauss, who before becoming the president of Germany's largest bank, the Deutsche Bank was Managing Director of the European Petroleum Union (a Rothschild front organization), and the Warburg family of Switzerland, Germany and the USA.

The Anglo-American banking cartel thus financed both sides of WW2, just as the British bankers have done for every single major war since Napoleon, under Nathan Mayer Rothschild. He used spies from the battlefield to start a false rumour in London that Wellington had lost at Waterloo and Napoleon was sailing cross the Channel, thus driving down the entire London Stock Exchange by over 95% in a few hours. He then bought it up at pennies on the pound, thus becoming one of the richest men, if not the richest, in the world at the time.




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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 03:57 AM
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9. (1)Everything has risks, but the risk of NOT having (most) vaccines is much greater than having them
Natural News is an evil site which opposes universal healthcare as an infringement of freedom (typical right-libertarian, pro-Ron Paul stuff - UGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!), and is against the provision of ANY form of 'conventional medicine, not just vaccines.

Although the Daily Telegraph is a more mainstream source, it has always been very right-wing and has recently become very unreliable

Most of the more genuine sources you quote are alleging either exaggeration of the risk of swine flu to sell more vaccines (possible - but in the UK recently it was the other way round, with flu spreading and the government not having vaccines available), or are reporting accidents that were discovered and dealt with; or possible side effects - as of any medicine/food/activity. Not vaccine manufacturors deliberately circulating viruses!


(2) Darwin may have been inbred, but that's not the major point: the point is that the theory of evolution is NOT the same thing as what is sometimes called 'social Darwinism'. And just about everyone in the 19th and early 20th century was racist to varying degrees and many supported some form of 'eugenics'; but singling out Darwin, Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood sounds like the arguments of the creationist, anti-birth-control Christian Right.

(3) The banking industry is not a great boon to society, but the allegations about Rothschild and the Napoleonic Wars do not come from contemporary sources, but from a much-later-19th century antisemitic pamphlet. And it is not generally thought that the Rothschilds funded Hitler in any way: indeed they suffered considerable losses due to the Nazis. The only sources that I can find for the suggestion are individuals and sites that promote antisemitic conspiracy theories.




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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 09:20 AM
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10. P.S...about Margaret Sanger
She was NOT a supporter of the Nazis, and indeed denounced them for their persecution of the Jews as early as 1933, when most mainstream politicians and writers were ignoring this.

As regards the Klan: she did once, in the 1920s give a talk to the Klan about birth control (as she did to many other groups of all sorts). But she did not endorse the Klan or its policies.

Though some of her views were racist like those of most people at that time, the attempts to link her to the Nazis and the Klan seem to stem mainly from people like Glenn Beck and other fanatical opponents of birth control and abortion.
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