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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:06 AM
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Righthaven accuses defendant (DU) of running up legal fees in copyright case
Source: Las Vegas Sun

Las Vegas copyright enforcement company Righthaven LLC is complaining that one of its litigation foes is needlessly running up legal costs that Righthaven may end up paying for.

... The latest dispute between Righthaven and the Democratic Underground emerged Friday, when Democratic Underground attorneys with the Electronic Frontier Foundation said new evidence had surfaced that would bolster their case.

... In a victory for the Democratic Underground, Chief U.S. District Judge for Nevada Roger Hunt on Tuesday allowed the Democratic Underground to supplement its pleadings with the new evidence.

... Righthaven said the Democratic Underground’s motion to use the new evidence amounts to “litigation overkill.”


Read more: http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/mar/10/righthaven-accuses-defendant-running-lawyer-fees-c/
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:07 AM
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1. “litigation overkill”
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 11:08 AM by Renew Deal
:rofl:

DU is bad for the business model. They picked too big a target.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:11 AM
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2. "Litigation overkill:" Pot, meet kettle.
:rofl:

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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:13 AM
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3. Why am I getting the impression Righthaven is some rinky-dink group
run out of some right-leaning Momma's boy's basement?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:15 AM
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6. They made $300K in just under a year suing people for copyright.
I would surmise most of it was settlements.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:16 AM
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8. All they do is search for postings, then buy the copyrights after the fact...
you can do that sort of work in a basement!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:21 AM
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11. I think all of it was settlements, likely in the $10,000, "make it go away"
ballpark. This is the only way they can make money since this is going to be very costly and take a very long time to fight in court and chances are excellent that Righthaven will not only lose, they'll be assessed the legal fees and probably damages.

At some point, they'll start to squeal in real pain and withdraw the suit. They absolutely do not want this to go to court.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:13 AM
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4. Waambulance rolling. nt
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:21 AM
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10. Crybaby blues
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:27 AM
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35. Did I hear someone call for a wahmbulance?!


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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:14 AM
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5. Haha
Does anyone know who the attorneys for DU are?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:48 AM
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15. Dewey, Cheatham and Howe
You don't want to be in court against THEM.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 12:19 PM
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46. DU's attorneys
From Wikipedia: "DU is being represented in the case pro bono by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, attorneys from the firm of Winston & Strawn, and Las Vegas attorney Chad Bowers."

My bias, speaking as an attorney who sometimes does pro bono work, is that these attorneys deserve high praise! :)
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:15 AM
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7. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, Newsjock.:thumbsup:
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Maine_Nurse Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:20 AM
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9. Drive it so far up their asses that they gag! nt
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:23 AM
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12. The gentlemen behind Righthaven failed to learn a valuable lesson in the schoolyard.
When you bully someone, sometimes they hit back...hard.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:23 AM
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13. K&R
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:27 AM
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14. I saw the movie All About Eve recently
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 12:25 PM by rocktivity
There was line in it about "setting a record for running, jumping, and standing gall..."

What's next -- a Playboy centerfold suing for sexual harassment?

:eyes:
rocktivity
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:55 AM
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16. Gentlemen, meet Karma. You're not gonna like her much, but she's pwnd you.
:rofl:
:rofl:
:rofl:
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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 12:00 PM
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17. “Do not hit at all if it can be avoided, but never hit softly.”
T. Roosevelt
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 12:10 PM
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18. Boo
f*cking hoo. :nopity:

wTF have they been doing this whole time? They have been using their frivolous lawsuits to shake down defendants IMHO.

So go for it DU. Give them a taste of their own medicine.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 12:58 PM
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19. I regret that I have but one Dollar to give for my Litigation
:rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 01:08 PM
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20. Go, Skinner!
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:34 PM
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21. K & R. What a beautiful thing it would be
to see these guys put out of business.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:41 PM
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22. Thank you.
- This made my day!

K&R

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:02 PM
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23. Asking tihe court for permission to use newly found evidence is litigation overkill?
What litigation bs that accusation is.
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Sardondi Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 12:55 AM
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24. Tear their evil hearts out
I'm more or less a "conservo-libertarian" (as opposed to a "liberaltarian"), and don't often see things the same way as most of the folks on DU. So I'm not a commenter here. But I like to give credit where credit is due. And so I registered to do just that.

And "that" is to say,"BRAVO!!!" to you about your battle with the bottom-feeders of the American justice system, Righthaven. Oh, man, when I saw they were whining about how unfair it was to run up legal costs, well, that was a coffee-out-the-nose moment. Your girding of the loins and getting ready for battle has given heart to the thousands of website owners who live in terror of a guerilla legal attack by the buccaneers of Righthaven. You have shown that the only way to deal with a bully is to give the coward a bloody nose.

If there is such a thing as perfect justice, then after inflicting AND amassing truly staggering legal costs, you will win your case and be awarded all prayed-for relief, including having your costs underwritten by the swine at RH; which will hopefully result in DU moving into new digs at the former offices of Righthaven and Stephens Media. After all, it's just no fun battling a bunch of sleazeballs unless you get to dance in their blood. I hope you do.

Well done, DU. Carry on in good health and success.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:44 AM
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25. +100
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:00 AM
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27. Welcome to DU.
Stick Around. You might have your eyes opened a bit.
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:13 AM
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39. "I ... don't often see things the same way as most of the folks on DU."
Neither do DUers. It's like herding cats. Head on over to GOP lawmakers call light bulb mandate a dim idea and watch the festivities commence.

Make some popcorn - as long as it's tofu-based and doesn't kill any baby whales.

Welcome to DU.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:53 AM
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45. Wow. Copyright Nazis are so despicable they unite Left and Right in their disgust of them.
:thumbsup:
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rayofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:27 AM
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26. Pot meet kettle. n/t
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:16 AM
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28. If Righthaven's case is so darn ironclad, that shouldn't make any difference.
I mean, if they're so sure of themselves, why should they care how much DU spends on its defense?

Unless, of course, Righthavens knows it's going to lose, on account that it's been running an extortion scam, and someone finally stood up to them.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:41 AM
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29. You big DU bullies stop picking on those poor, helpless shitweasels.
Wait, make that "useless and clueless"
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:00 AM
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30. Schadenfreude for breakfast.
Yummy
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:00 AM
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31. K&R
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:07 AM
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32. LOL - won't someone *please* think of Righthaven??
:cry:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:10 AM
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33. It's very gratifying to see DU kicking Righthaven's butt!
:kick:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:28 AM
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36. Fuck yeah!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:20 AM
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34. To quote Tony Soprano...
Criple the fucks.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:28 AM
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37. Righthaven accusing someone of bad faith litigation? Bad faith is Righthaven's business plan.
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:53 AM
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38. Righthaven isn't used to anyone standing up to them
They usually pick on people who roll over and settle without Righthaven incurring any court costs. More groups should go to court. Righthaven would probably stop the extortion when it starts costing them more money than it's worth.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 12:28 PM
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48. Yeah, well, pretty stupid of them to have chosen DU for a target.
If they survive this, maybe they'll wise up and do a little research on their "marks" before they start shit.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:25 AM
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40. I'm thrilled DU stood up to these internet bullies!
Eventually someone one was going to take a stand against them, but it's extra special to see it was our guys. :D

The linked article is hilarious. In one breath they're whining because DU won't just let them drop the whole thing and go away quietly without their having to pay for the financial damages they've inflicted. In the next they're saying they intend to "fully expose the readily apparent flaws presented in (the) defendants' arguments that would completely eviscerate countless years of licensing and related transactions throughout the country."

They're on the cusp of a total meltdown!
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:26 AM
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41. Oops. I guess this time they will actually have to put a little work into
their BS lawsuit. I take it they never expected anyone to fight back. They thought they would just run right over people and cash in. That's all they are, imo; con artists.

As far as serial lawsuit money making groups like Righthaven go, I say :nopity:
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Stilicho94 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:33 AM
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42. Something the left and the right can unify around
As a bitter clinger Republican, I hope you guys kick Righthaven's asses so bad they have DU tattooed in 3 inch scar tissue on their posterior.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:40 AM
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43. DU has made it to Slashdot.org
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:42 AM
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44. suffer, bastards, suffer
I think Du's counsel needs to travel to say...Johanesburg...to research some aspects of this case. Travel time is billable time...
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 12:25 PM
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47. Hoist them on their own petard, then give it a spin or two for good measure. n/t
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