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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:06 AM
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Feingold: Wisconsinites will hold Republicans accountable
Source: The Plum Line

Feingold: Wisconsinites will hold Republicans accountable
By Greg Sargent

A strong statement from fomer Wisconsin Senator Russ Feingold, who seems to endorse the push to recall Wisconsin GOP officials:

"Last night will be remembered as a black mark on the history of Wisconsin government. The actions by 18 Republican state senators leave no doubt that Governor Walker's attack on Wisconsin workers has nothing to do with the budget and everything to do with advancing a national corporate agenda. Sadly, these actions further drive divisions within our state and threaten the future economic recovery of Wisconsin. Proponents of this plan should remember: Wisconsin's citizens will hold their elected officials accountable."

Read more: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011/03/feingold_wisconsinites_will_ho.html
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:10 AM
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1. K&R...n/t
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:12 AM
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2. National Corporate Agenda...
handmaiden to GOP single-party government. Union busting adversely impacts Democratic fund raising. It's party politics at its most rank.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:46 AM
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6. Let's not forget that Hitler and Stalin went after the unions first.
This is what we face.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:29 AM
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3. It can only be successful if the voting methods are changed.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:37 AM
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4. It should be "the whole world will hold Republicans accountable".
Include plants, animals too. A
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:45 AM
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5. The Republicans believe that corporations should reign supreme over
the American People and by extension over "We the People's" government.

They; can't stand honest representation and everything the Republicans do is geared toward eliminating that possibility from being a reality.

Thanks for the thread, kpete.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:52 AM
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7. Our Wisconsin Senator knew the game plan years ago...
And we are so lucky he didn't leave our state...
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:16 PM
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20. Maybe HE wasn't so lucky...
...because your state was stupid enough to turn on him when they handed the keys over to the G.O.P.

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:58 AM
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8. I have doubts
it's 18 months until the next elections, and hate radio's death grip on the country is tightening by the day. It was just 5 months ago that the Wisconsin residents voted these psychos into office. So 5 months ago they approved of the Hate Radio/Fox agenda. I don't see why actually seeing it enacted is going to suddenly cause a sea change.
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libmom74 Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 12:45 PM
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12. I think this is what
happens when the Democratic base gets so depressed by weak "bipartisanship" spinelessness and the corporate whoring of their own party that they stay home and don't vote, and by staying "above the fray", Obama and the DNC are not helping the party's chances for 2012.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:13 PM
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18. No, it's what happens when the Democratic base gets STUPID...
...and decides "Because we didn't get 100% of what we wanted from our leadership handed to us on a silver platter immediately, we'll just stay home and not vote. That'll show 'em!" :eyes:

As far as I'm concerned, the Never-Satisfied bloc of Democrats, who started whining that "Obama betrayed us!" the second he chose to proceed on a single issue in a way that was different from what they would have done, who are to blame for the mess we find ourselves in. If Republicans showed such a readiness to jump ship, Reagan would have been a one-term president, and Dubya would have been the playboy son of an ex-vice president. But we Democrats never learn even the basics -- that sticking together for the long haul is the only way to achieve lasting change.

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rayofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:33 PM
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15. If that is the case...
...then too bad. If you can not win the election are reverse the legislation, then it will stand as it should.

Wisconsin voters voted them in and Wisconsin voters will have to vote them out. All else is secondary and, in the end, irrelevant.
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scribble Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 12:04 PM
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9. Progressives are guilty ...
... of taking advantage of this situation. I see almost no Union leaders on Television. The few leaders I've seen; have just recited boilerplate talking points. Where is Obama? Where are other national Democratic leaders? No one is speaking out on bahalf of these demonstrators. No one is explaining why collective bargaining is vital, and why we should make sure all private sector workers also have the right to form unions and bargain collectively for their wages and working conditions.

Democrats and Union Leaders obviously are not providing the leadership that Wisconsin workers need.

Wisconsin Democrats should not only recall Republicans; they should also put PROPOSITIONS on their State Ballot, first to grant the right of collective bargaining to all Wisconsinites in a way that can not be rescinded, and second; to force their House and Senate to follow their own laws or to resign their seats, and to vacate legislation that a Court finds to be passed illegally.

WHERE ARE THE PROPOSITIONS?

sc
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rayofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:35 PM
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17. "private sector workers" are not the issue...
This is about public sector workers only.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:15 PM
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19. In THIS state...
There's a bill in Indiana to restrict the bargaining rights of private-sector unions as well. And you can bet more will be forthcoming, in states where there is a sizable union workforce.

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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 12:14 PM
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10. Now Sen. Feingold, a real Democrat, is someone I would vote for in 2012 to be the next PotUS.
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fittosurvive Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 12:54 PM
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13. I have seen no indication that anyone will challenge Obama for the nomination.
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rayofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 12:34 PM
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11. And that is the way it should be.
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 12:34 PM by rayofreason
Politicians must be held responsible for their votes and every supporter of public employee unions should be pounding the pavement, pursuading voters to agree with them and send the authors of this legislation packing. The corollary is that if you lose an election you should not try to block the results by non-legislative, non-electoral actions.

The Repubs won the 2010 elections and so they get to call the shots. Fact. Live with it. Want to overturn what they do? Win in 2012. To do anything else is chicken-shit and antidemocratic.
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fittosurvive Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 01:08 PM
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14. Indeed. The Wisconsinites voted for this action back in November and
we will see whether or not the approve of the results in 2012.

The democratic process may not always give us the results we seek, but running away from reality is not an option.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:20 PM
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21. We'll see a lot sooner than 2012...
On April 5th, Wisconsin voters will hold an election for Supreme Court justice, in a position currently held by a Republican. Should the Democrat win, the balance on the SC will be tipped back to us. Since it's a near-certainty that this bill will be challenged in court, this coming election is critical to determining whether it stands or not. More to the point, it will be a strong signal as to whether the anger against the G.O.P. attack on union workers is enough of a driving force to put Walker and his cohorts in danger, or whether the electorate, while disapproving of the current bill, isn't going to make it a determinative issue in the long run.

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rayofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:41 PM
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24. Go Wisconsin!!!
What you point to is the REAL way to make change - through the ballot box!!!
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fittosurvive Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:55 PM
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26. Well now, I was not aware of that.
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 05:57 PM by fittosurvive
You are right, rather than the media telling us what Wisconsinites think about this legislation, Wisconsinites will speak for themselves on April 5th.

Thanks for the heads up.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:09 PM
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22. Unfortunately, any pavement pounding will be trounced by
hate radio, Fox Lies, and the millions of ad money that the Koch brothers will spend.
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rayofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:39 PM
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23. If you can't convince people...
...you lose. Period. The alternative is a group KNOWING what is right, and doing it without consent of the governed. In a word, Tyranny.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:35 PM
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16. K and R all threads freepers will hate
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:33 PM
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25. K and R
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 08:04 PM
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27. The next Wisconsin Governor n/t
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 08:04 PM by Strelnikov_
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:05 AM
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28. Next Governor?
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:11 AM
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29. Yes, black mark in WI History as Walker's Poodles did their
dirty deed.


"Last night will be remembered as a black mark on the history of Wisconsin government."
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:17 AM
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30. Feingold is always there for the people.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:41 AM
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31. K&R! Yes Please! //nt
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