WI: Senate Leader Fitzgerald says Obama advisors behind recall efforts, cites political payoff for b

[sybylla]

Source: Madison Capitol Times

Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald has accused advisors for President Barack Obama of being behind recall efforts that target eight state Senators.

Even Fox News reporter Megyn Kelly was incredulous.

See the video here.

Also getting a lot of talk is a statement Fitzgerald made to Fox on Wednesday about the political payoff for undercutting union power.

Read more: http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_dc7ee13e-4b48-11e0-8edb-001cc4c002e0.html

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Okay, if Megyn Kelly was befuddled, this man has totally gone off the deep end.

[emulatorloo]

1. Insane, or getting advice from Karl Rove's Crossroads Framing Committee

[Kingofalldems]

2. K and R

[Bozita]

3. Are there no mental health services in Wisconsin anymore?

[glinda]

4. Am sure they have been cut. Only treatment for pray away the Gay available.

[midnight]

23. Scott Walker dismantled that budge at the county level, and put many on the mentally ill in jail...

[Larkspur]

5. Isn't Fitzgerald the same bozo who said that the union-busting bill was aimed

at defeating Obama in WI in 2012?

Fitzgerald's and Walker's con game has been exposed to the world. They know it and are panicking. They are living in RW conspiracy world right now. Obama is haunting their night dreams.

Hope these scumbags at least end up with hernias.

[sybylla]

6. Either Fitz-1 or Fitz-2

Jeff Fitzgerald is Assembly Speaker
Scott Fitzgerald is Senate Majority Leader

They are brothers, whose father was just appointed by Walker to head the state troopers.

[Historic NY]

17. That there could be trouble.

[sybylla]

18. Especially in Fitzwalkerstan

- as coined by State Rep. Mark Pocan just this afternoon as they were debating the union busting bill in the assembly.

[Historic NY]

22. Smacks of nepotism.

[Uncle Joe]

7. Perhaps this is a cover present for Obama from Fitzgerald?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x600018

Thanks for the thread, sybylla.

[sybylla]

16. You know, I have to say I don't know where that stuff is coming from.

There is no evidence on the ground or in the Democratic Party of Wisconsin (DPW) that anyone is quashing anything here. If they're asking outsiders to stay out, that's another thing. But the DPW is right there beside the protesters and union members, organizing protests, training protest marshals, providing training and guidance on the recalls, etc. statewide and locally. They've been outstanding and unabashed when it's come to backing up our Democratic legislators and the unions in this state.

The implication of some kind of quid pro quo between Obama and state puke legislators is unfounded and really has no place on this thread.

[Uncle Joe]

19. Perhaps it's just spin and fiction but the pukes in Wisconsin know

that popular sentiment is greatly against them, giving credit to the leader of the opposition party for this recall effort particularly when the evidence is so lacking that even a FOX "News" interviewer can't believe it greatly undercuts any basis for sincere motivation by the accuser.

[fascisthunter]

8. Damned if you do, damned if you don't

once again, fear of what he is going to be accused of directs his actions.

[Historic NY]

9. F... Scott Fitzgerald.....sounds looney toons

[rayofreason]

10. Actually, I see nothing wrong...

...with coordinated efforts to get recall votes representatives for whom it is legal. Recall laws are there for a purpose and they are a legitimate political tactic, for both sides. You pass laws by winning elections to get your people in office, and recalls are part of the electoral process in some states. However, I take a very dim view of extra-legal tactics. like protests whose aim is to prevent the legislature from meeting.

[sybylla]

15. You're missing the implication that this isn't a local grassroots effort.

This isn't being run from D.C. In fact, Dems nationally aren't really all that involved.

This is people on the ground, becoming active in their unions, standing up for their union neighbors and family members, standing up for Wisconsin and this state's values.

This piece of horseshit is trying to make it sound like there's some kind of puppetmaster behind it all - you know, like AFP, the Koch Brothers, KKKarl Rove, etc.

[rayofreason]

21. When there are issues of national importance...

...appropriate participation by national leaders is not unwarranted. "Appropriate" is the key word. It would not be appropriate for the President to directly comment on an issue of state governance, but it would be appropriate for national labor leaders to speak out and support local efforts at recall campaigns. Of course, in the end the only people who can sign a recall petition are the voters in a district and without real grassroots sentiment in that district a recall petition will get nowhere.

[DFW]

11. Fitzgerald is seriously confused.

The scenario calls for THEM to get their lines from Fox, not the other way around.

No wonder Kelly was confused. Fitzgerald went off script while on camera. Ailes must be furious.

[Brother Buzz]

14. Word!

:thumbsup:

[PatSeg]

12. Republicans keep going "off the deep end"

and bouncing back. Reminds me of horror films where the evil one(s) just can't be defeated. When Dems make a mistake, it is often the end of their careers.

[Iliyah]

13. Yea yea yea

always someone elses fault. YOU LIE, I hope you gopers go down hard.

[bucolic_frolic]

20. Call the Men in White Suits for the Paranoid and Overweened

Obama has barely uttered a peep about Wisconsin. And you can't recall anybody without doing dastardly unpopular deeds ... oh, wait, there was Gray Davis ... just shows how GOPers believe politics is a TOP-DOWN Power Grab ... can't even fathom the GRASS ROOTS.

Go, Union Badgers, GO!!!

[BadgerKid]

24. More misdirection to quell the uprising.

Underdogs can sometimes roust people to action. I think Fitzgerald's purpose here is to frame the protest as a result of the same-old, national, D-vs.-R politics-as-usual so that people tune it out and the real grassroots effort goes largely unnoticed.

[pacalo]

25. OMG. Talk about delusional. Traces of Tricky Dickie Nixon?

[riderinthestorm]

26. Michelle Norris on NPR interviewed Glenn Grothman, WI Rethug Asst Majority Leader

today and he said the EXACT same thing. This is clearly the talking point that they have agreed upon - this is all Obama's fault!

[JoeyT]

27. They're going to blame absolutely any opposition there on Obama.

So the talking point that "Going there will make it about him!!!!111one" is now useless.