End operations in Afghanistan, Karzai pleads

[Ken Burch]

Source: Ottawa Citizen(Canada)

An emotional Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Saturday told international troops to "stop their operations in our land," his strongest remarks yet on the mistaken killings of civilians.

Karzai's comments came after a week in which a relative was killed in a raid by foreign forces, and he rejected an apology by the U.S. commander of troops Gen. David Petraeus for the deaths of nine children in a NATO strike.

"I would like to ask NATO and the U.S. with honour and humbleness and not with arrogance to stop their operations in our land," Karzai said in Pashto as he visited the dead children's relatives in Kunar province.

"We are very tolerant people, but now our tolerance has run out."

Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/operations+Afghanistan+Karzai+pleads/4431481/story.html#ixzz1GWUHqkGn


Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/operations+Afghanistan+Karzai+pleads/4431481/story.html

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If the guy our troops have been fighting to keep in power wants us to PULL OUT THE TROOPS...doesn't that pretty much tell the tale?

Mr. President, just admit its a dead loss and end this.

[Autumn]

1. That says it all.

Now, who will listen? K/R

[Ken Burch]

4. This is the equivalent of Nguyen Van Thieu calling on the U.S. to get out of Vietnam

n/t.

[Autumn]

7. I remember that. This is going to

be interesting and very telling.

[provis99]

16. actually, Karzai is looking more like Diem. And Obama like Kennedy.

And we know what Kennedy did to Diem when he got out of line...

[Arrowhead2k1]

2. lol at Karzai thinking he has any real say.

Sad but true.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

3. "I need quiet time to move my money," he added.

[daleo]

5. Karzai had best watch out

The powers that be won't like this kind of talk.

[JanDutchy]

10. Rory Stewart , : Nine non-violent options for action in Libya

http://www.rorystewart.co.uk/blog



When you have time listen to this fragment - out of a serie - of a dutch interview with Rory Stewart, Irak-Governor and now UK Member of Parliament.

http://www.vpro.nl/programma/wintergasten/afleveringen/42560395/media/42938594/

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

6. But we have a oil pipeline to build, sorry, I forgot, it's not ours,

it's corporate owned. But the taxpayers are paying for it with blood.

[democrank]

8. Don`t forget what Junior Bush taught us.....

~War is peace~

[Forkboy]

9. Karzai never liked Obama to start with.

[Ken Burch]

17. Karzai would STILL want the U.S. out if McCain had been elected.

n/t.

[DeSwiss]

11. Out! Out! Out!

K&R

[Plucketeer]

12. Load the troops on C-17s

leave the rest of the hardware to Karzi and get the fuck out! Of course, there's as much chance anyone listening to me as Karzi has!

[Bigmack]

20. I disagree...

Don't leave the hardware for the Taliban or whoever.

Load up what can be easily airlifted, drive and fly out what we can, and
park the remaining shit centrally and blow it in place. That way the Afghanis can salvage the scrap metal.

Definitely load the planes, tho. Get our people out of there!

[Plucketeer]

23. I'd be happy either way! nt

[Mybrokenchains]

13. hey look at that....we want out of afghanistan....the afghans what us out of afghanistan, logically

we should be getting the hell out of Afghanistan...

[conspirator]

19. The half dozen US families who control the oil and the MIC pull the shots. They will tell when

to leave

[old guy]

14. Looks like the perfect time to leave.

They want us out so we go . Anything that happens cannot be our fault as we only did what we were asked by their government. If the whole thing falls on Karzais head he cannot blame us as we simply did what he asked. We can say if we had stayed we could helped, but, hey stuff happens.

[ronnie624]

21. The U.S. military is in Afghanistan to help?

At the request of the Afghan government?

And if we left, we would be free of responsibility for anything that happens there?

Interesting perspective.

[old guy]

27. Read the post again.

You missed my point entirely.

[Robb]

15. On the same day, the Senate pleads for us to stay.

I wish I was making this up.

http://tolonews.com/en/afghanistan/2128-afghan-senators-urge-delay-of-security-transition">Afghan Senators Urge Delay of Security Transition

(snip)

The senate says it is important to eventually hand over security responsibilities to Afghan forces, but adds that Afghanistan will go to civil war again if international forces abandon Afghanistan in 2014.

"The Afghan issue has both national and international aspects, so the countries in the region and in the world should stick to their commitments on Afghanistan," Mohammad Alam Izedyar, deputy head of Senate, said.

Khaleq Balaghai, an Afghan senator, expressed scepticism about the efforts of the High Peace Council.

"The other side is one day our brother and turns into an enemy and a suicide bomber the other day. I am suspicious that the Peace Council itself may suddenly bring its head out of the Taliban's collar, said Mr Balaghi.....

Read More: http://tolonews.com/en/afghanistan/2128-afghan-senators-urge-delay-of-security-transition

[Charleston Chew]

18. Afghanistan

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MSF Australia
Mar 13, 2011

Photos by photojournalist Kate Holt

In this photofilm, patients and caregivers at Boost hospital, Helmand province, highlight - in their own voices - some of the realities of living in Afghanistan today, especially the challenges of accessing healthcare in a war-torn country. Throughout the country, the reality is that few health centres existing on paper are actually functioning. They often lack drugs and medical staff. Roads have become difficult and dangerous. For the patients, access to the few health structures that do work often mean great risk and expense to get to.

The anonymity of patients is respected by not identifying their faces or real names. Médecins Sans Frontières has worked in Boost hospital since end-2009, providing free, quality medical care in a weapons free environment.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x563078
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Collateral Damage - Afghanistan

Following the Oruzgan killing of an Afghan family, three Australian soldiers now face a court martial. How could a family with 6 children have been slaughtered? To date there is no evidence any were associated with the Taliban.

Maintaining to this day that they were innocent civilians, the families of those affected by the raid are fuming that their names are still being dragged through the mud. Shortly after the attack, local man Shipiro said, "I asked the interpreter what they said, he said they made a mistake. Instead of the house on the hill, they attacked us". Many questions remain unanswered surrounding what actually happened that fateful day.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x551512
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Media ignores infinite Afghan war

Instead of investigating further, the mainstream media appears to be more concerned with entertainment news, such as the Kardashian's new product, than a war that has claimed the lives of thousands of Americans and innocent Afghan civilians. Founder of Brave New Films Robert Greenwald says I think it's a combination of factors; first of all, it's only been in the last 5 or so years that the networks have forced news to become an income source the same way they look at sports or entertainment.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x539390
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New Year, Same Afghan problems

The United States has been at war for over 9 years in Afghanistan but has yet to see major gains despite claims from the Obama Administration that there has been significant progress. Voices for Creative Nonviolence Co-coordinator Kathy Kelly says this is a land that belongs to the people of Afghanistan. A prior question should be what do Afghan people want for their country? Not, what kind of designs does the United States have on their resources around their geo-political placement.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x539410
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Spending in Afghanistan: up to 2008 and 2009

| January 05, 2011 |
This video and information is courtesy of YouTubes "Ralphdraw3"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x540583
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Damning Report Shows U.S. Strategy Blocking Chance for Peace in Afghanistan

The new report from NYU's Center for International Cooperation is a damning description of the U.S. policies in Afghanistan since 2001, and a warning that the escalated military strategy blocks the road to peace while making the Taliban more dangerous.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x551688
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Afghan Civilian Deaths Hit Record Levels

2010: Afghan Civilian Deaths Hit Record Levels

According to a new report, at least 2,421 civilians were killed in Afghanistan last year, a record high since the U.S. invasion in 2001. U.S. and other foreign deaths also hit their highest levels last year since the start of the war. A total of 499 US troops and 212 other coalition members lost their lives in fighting in Afghanistan in 2010.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x553689
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[MellowDem]

22. "Tolerant people" my ass...

Best to leave the corrupt Karzai to rule over this backwater shithole. I agree with him there.

[Dulcinea]

24. We should honor his request.

We're not going to win, or change anything, in Afghanistan. We're just throwing good money after bad, to say nothing of the needless loss of life on both sides. We'll end up like the Soviets in 1979.

[Vidar]

25. That would be the best thing for every country involved, especially the US.

Of course, we can't even contemplate such sane, humane & financially sound solution to the problem.

[Frisbee]

26. "Mr. President, just admit its a dead loss and end this."

As if the MIC would ever allow that to happen.

edited for punctuation.

[bvar22]

28. Meet Hamid Karzai

Meet Hamid Karzai
or as Obama calls him, "The Government of Afghanistan".

He was appointed by Bush the Lesser to run Afghanistan.
He is one of the most despicable criminals in The World,
But NOW we like him so much
that our children fighting and dying in the deserts of Afghanistan to keep him in power.