Danielle Deaver Denied Abortion Even as Uterus Crushed Fetus

[RamboLiberal]

Source: ABC News

Danielle Deaver was 22 weeks pregnant when her water broke and doctors gave her a devastating prognosis: With undeveloped lungs, the baby likely would never survive outside the womb, and because all the amniotic fluid had drained, the tiny growing fetus slowly would be crushed by the uterus walls.

"What we learned from the perinatologist was that because there was no cushion, she couldn't move her arms and legs because of contractures," said Deaver, a 34-year-old nurse from Grand Isle, Neb. "And her face and head would be deformed because the uterus pushed down so hard."

After having had three miscarriages, Deaver and her husband, Robb Deaver, looked for every medical way possible to save the baby. Deaver's prior pregnancy ended the same way at 15 weeks, and doctors induced her to spare the pain.

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Just one month earlier, Nebraska had enacted the nation's first fetal pain legislation, banning abortions after 20 weeks gestation. So the Deavers had to wait more than a week to deliver baby Elizabeth, who died after just 15 minutes.


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/20-week-abortion-ban-nebraska-oklahoma-fetus-feel/story?id=13116214

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I'm sick of these fools in the Repub party without medical degrees denying a woman the right to choose and putting her in medical risk for the R's religious and pandering to the fundies.

[xchrom]

1. somebody needs to go to jail for this cruelty. nt

[roguevalley]

35. next time i see that visit nebraska commercial I think I'm going to

have an extra image in my head.

[MiniMe]

2. And the uterus contracting on the baby wouldn't cause the fetus pain?

I have a headache listening to these people.

[MsPithy]

24. If the prevention of "fetal pain" is now the standard,

then all vaginal deliveries are against the law. Imagine the pain involved with your head being squeezed through a hole so small it deforms the shape of your skull.

[Pacifist Patriot]

3. Edited: Did ABC news get the year wrong in the dateline?

It looks like a year old story, but when I googled her name I did get articles from this year.

[RamboLiberal]

5. Yeah I think they blew the date

I think the legislation is just a month old.

[valerief]

4. God's will and all, you know.

:grr:

[okieinpain]

12. that's exactly right, pat robinson was praying for the fetus to live

but god was watching cbn at the time.

[valerief]

52. Or Real Housewives of Hell. nt

[KansDem]

43. Yeah, God's "plan"

I believe Sharron Angle and Michelle Bachmann have riled on about "The Plan."

[Patchuli]

53. On the contrary,

it sounds to me like if all the efforts had not been made to continue it, the pregnancy would have ended on its own.

God did not cause that pain.

[jemelanson]

6. There is no mercy, no compassion, and no reason, in this law or

the things that brought it into being. They do not deserve to be called persons. They have no humanity and they are much worse than any animal and being that they do not qualify as a plant or rock then the only description left for them is thing. They have no souls and they have no humanity. Waste of flesh and air. They are useless, ugly bags of water.

Not only did they condemn these parents but the unborn child also to unneeded risk they also prolonged the suffering that each had do endure. There was no amount of time or care that was going to make for a better outcome. This only increased the medical bills and the pain and suffering.

[AlbertCat]

9. They do not deserve to be called persons

No they don't. They should be called ignorant children for not accepting reality and bucking up to the indifference of Nature and the necessity of unpleasant things like abortions. Stupid, know-it-all children who think they can legislate the world into a Rainbow Bright fantasy where everything is all nice and just like their back yard.

Fools.

[vim876]

57. Leave Rainbow Brite outta this. nt.

[xxqqqzme]

7. This really isn't about the right to choose.

There was no 'choice', only medical prognosis and advice. This is the denial of medical care.

[aquart]

27. This is the denial of medical care to WOMEN.

[glinda]

34. Bingo

[ladywnch]

8. fetal pain law???? yeah, and I'm sure the baby felt NO PAIN while

being crushed to death and felt no terror as she suffocated after birth.

What a truly compassionate law.

[liberal N proud]

10. The right-to-lifers only care about the fetus

This is a good example of that warped reality.

[Kali]

18. they don't even care about that

only about controlling women - and these are the same nut jobs worried about Sharia

idiots

evil fucking idiots

[liberal N proud]

19. Twisted evil idiots

[SomeGuyInEagan]

38. Agreed. They only care about controlling others, regardless of pain or tragedy inflicted.

Truly twisted, evil people.

[caseymoz]

51. Actually, they might cite controlling the woman as a necessary evil

. . . or irrelevant compared to stopping the state from "sanctioning murder."

And please, I'm not supporting them, I'm extremely pro-choice, but nothing is gained by mis-characterizing their beliefs, nor by trying to argue with or expose their subconscious motives. If they're unconscious motives, they can't be argued with. They can only be defeated. They can be rallied against though.

There's only one way to defeat it, and that's by repetition. I would preface any argument against abortion with "The fetus is not a person" or "The fetus is not a human being . . ." and would put that message in as many times in as many arguments as I could. That is the only way to win this. Find the simple, basic message, stick to it and repeat it. Something clearer and less absurd than "Life begins at conception."

I hate to say about forming ideas, human psychology is that simple.

[No Elephants]

11. People play God, in the name of rescuing babies. Who are they to decide mom's life is

less important than embryo's life, or fetal pain from abortion is better for embryo (and mom) than fetal pain from something like this? Power hungry control freaks AND, in their own belief system, breakers of the first commandment and the same sin Adam and Eve committed-seeking to be God.

[Brickbat]

13. Grand Island, Nebraska; not Grand Isle.

I know it's not the OP's error. Just had to correct it.

[Ian David]

14. I posted this to Twitter and got THIS reply back...

@IanDavidB That is untrue about Danielle Deaver's baby being crushed. She said her baby was PERFECT with long eyelashes & beautiful #prolife
http://twitter.com/lifepeeps/status/47335810609070080


However, even the anti-choice websites agree that the baby died a hideous death outside the womb...

http://prolifeaction.org/hotline/2011/deaver/#more-12947

And even THAT site does NOT say their baby was born beautiful and perfect.

[lakercub]

17. Wow

that anti-choice website is horrible. You're right, at least they admit the child would have been screwed, but everything else they say is just disgusting. They criticized the parents every chance they got...and they love the word murder. Yikes.

[Ian David]

20. I'm still waiting for the dude to document that what he said was true. n/t

[Ian David]

39. Here's what the asshole finally sent me...

Her baby wasn't expected to live, but Nebraska law banned abortion
Law didn't allow couple to end pregnancy: Danielle and Robb Deaver knew their baby had little chance of survival, but Nebraska law prevented them from having the choice to end the pregnancy.


Deaver, 34, of Grand Island, Neb., wanted to see something, anything to validate the news doctors delivered eight days before: Her baby had virtually no chance of survival. And if she lived, she would be severely disabled.

What Deaver saw was perfection: A tiny but beautiful child. Ten toes. Ten fingers. Long eyelashes.

Her baby tried desperately to inhale.

<snip>

Her life struggle, 15 minutes outside the womb after 23 weeks and five days of gestation, was over.

"Our hands were tied," Danielle Deaver said. "The outcome of my pregnancy, that choice was made by God. I feel like how to handle the end of my pregnancy, that choice should have been mine, and it wasn't because of a law."

More:
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20110306/NEWS10/103060331/1001/

And this, is what the "pro-life" people think SHOULD have happened.


# .@lifepeeps The woman rightly blames you for prolonging the suffering of her AND her baby. http://goo.gl/IG8Uu #ProChoice #ProLife half a minute ago via web



# @lifepeeps Unfortunately, eyelashes, fingers and toes are a poor substitute for lungs, and people like you prolonged her baby's suffering 4 minutes ago via web in reply to lifepeeps

[saras]

15. They don't give a shit about fetal pain, or anything else about the fetus

All they care about is that the fetus is not present to argue with them, to deny them their outrageous claims supposedly on behalf of the fetus.

Because they realize that they would lose their arguments to fetuses, if they were capable of arguing back.

[madrchsod]

16. this goes on across america..

my friend and his wife went through the same thing in illinois

[defendandprotect]

21. "Pro-life" insanities are not about medicine, they're about controlling women and reproduction --!!

[sakabatou]

36. +1

[jacquelope]

58. Why don't they protest the war against health care for babies?

When Republicans cut budgets for care for poor sick children where are the pro-lifers then?

[OwnedByFerrets]

22. What a wonderful country in which we live.

[JJW]

23. Republican Politicans Standing Between

you and your doctor.

[smuglysmiling]

25. She should testify to those lawmakers...

and they should be forced to watch video of the 15 minutes of torture their decisions created.

[BeliQueen]

26. This is the reason abortions should be called "medical miscarriages".

Mrs. and Mr. Deaver should sue each and every politician who voted for this atrocity.

[dotymed]

28. Most Churches are corporations

since "Citizens United" is now "Law", can they use their "money voices" as free speech also?
I did post this on another O,P, and I really do not know the answer....

[blackspade]

29. heartbreaking.

What a crap-tacular law that is.
Another fundie-idiot law that inflicts unnecessary pain on everyone from the mother/fetus/father to the medical personnel whose hands are tied.

[14thColony]

30. It's getting hard to tell which book the Rs are following

Is it Mein Kampf or The Handmaid's Tale?

[james0tucson]

31. Why didn't they leave Nebraska?

Seems like medical treatment could have been had one state over.

[tblue37]

37. Maybe they couldn't afford to, or maybe the mother's health was too fragile to travel.

They shouldn't have had to anyway.

[yardwork]

40. One state over? Kansas? South Dakota? Wyoming? Iowa?

I don't think that any of those states are known for state-of-the-art late abortion facilities. In fact, when the doctor who performed these was murdered a few years ago, news reports said that he was one of the last in the country willing to take the risk. It was predicted that even in states where it's still legal, parents would not be able to get the health care they needed to avoid this pain, suffering, and risk of death.

Add to this the difficulty of packing up and moving temporarily to another state, taking a leave from work (if that is even possible), the fact that health insurance coverage would almost certainly be denied by going out of state, the fear and risks associated with leaving their health care provider and seeking care during a health crisis with practitioners who don't even know them, the probable risk to the health and possibly life of the mother to travel at this time....

It's easy enough to say "go someplace else."

[Aerows]

32. Sheer evil

The first time a man got pregnant, this legislation would be hurled out of the window. The people of Nebraska should be ashamed of their legislators that something like this would happen in their state - that a woman would be forced to miscarry her baby and watch it die.

[Tumbulu]

33. Can't the medical community change the name of

these procedures?

[caseymoz]

50. I think our legal system has that maneuver covered. nt

[jillan]

41. I'm sick of the party that wants LESS Government telling women they cannot have certain healthcare

procedures.

[RainDog]

42. exactly

this is the same party that bans sex toys in Alabama, has dry counties, still, and thinks that god hates the same people they do.

if god didn't want people to have sex toys, she wouldn't have invented them.

[Tansy_Gold]

44. And because I DO want people to have sex toys,

I DID invent them.




Tansy Gold, who is a goddess like every other woman.

[boppers]

47. You did that?

Wow.

[Skittles]

54. CORRECT

THEY WANT GOVERNMENT SMALL ENOUGH TO FIT INTO VAGINAS

[wordpix]

60. as I've always said, "sticking their noses in our private parts"

ewwwww----images of Boner et al doing that

[iwishiwas]

45. The fetus probably died a slow dead by suffacation! If you

believe that the fetus does have pain at that gestation!! (and if you read the entire article-the "evidence" is spotty)

[guruoo]

46. Too far along to seek help across the state line?

:shrug:

[northernlights]

48. she belongs in prison

how dare she break her water. :sarcasm:

[caseymoz]

49. But at least it wasn't in pain!

:sarcasm:

[ellenrr]

55. I'm TOTALLY pro-choice but....

I ask myself after 3 miscarriages and one bad ending, why get pregnant again?
Why not adopt?

Which is not at all to deny that this was a highly horrible situation made so by anti-choice fascists

[Violet_Crumble]

56. I had a friend who had many miscarriages before giving up hope...

I didn't understand why she put herself through it, but I think she had issues as me having an Oops! pregnancy and not being over the moon about it made her really ferocious and aggro at me, so I cut contact and heard from another friend a few years down the track that after what seemed like endless miscarriages she finally got the idea and got resigned to having the two children she already had...

[leftyladyfrommo]

62. I think more people would adopt if it didn't cost so much.

One couple I know paid $50,000 by the time they got through. That was for an infant.

Another couple I work for has been trying to adopt. She told me the fee is right around $40,000.

That's awful.

[wordpix]

59. the sequel: women dying after trying to abort with coat hangers

:puke:

[BlueIris]

61. Appalling.

I'm horrified for this family. Antichoicers are disgusting, woman killing bigots.