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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 06:28 AM Original message |
Japan warned over nuclear plants, WikiLeaks cables show |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 06:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. I knew there had been criticism from watching CNIC briefings |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 06:40 AM Response to Original message |
2. How sad that governments conspire with the nuclear industry to |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 06:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Economic compromise is the enemy of SAFETY. |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 07:10 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Are you in the Northeast? |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 07:12 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. No, I am in Wisconsin. |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
35. I'm over here in Keene and am with you in spirit |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #35 |
51. it'll be a showdown... |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
48. VY has the same containment design as Fukushima Dai-ichi reactors 1-5. |
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Kelvin Mace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 07:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. PROFIT is the enemy of safety |
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howaboutme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 07:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Profits, wars, tax cuts for the rich have made the USA ill equipped for disasters |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 08:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Certainly profit is the motivator for business |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 10:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
32. Whatever we "need" we don't use it at the expense of our health and survival ... !! |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #32 |
43. Unfortunately, we all too often do... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Well, then let's go back to sea shells -- money is power in the end -- |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Open right wing VIOLENCE, eh? Ok, whatever. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
47. We should be switching to solar energy. It is the safest energy source. |
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howaboutme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. Yes they prefer controlling production and a beholden market |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Good analysis, howaboutme. I agree. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #8 |
19. +1000% |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
46. When issues of sustaining human life conflict with those of making profit, |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. Yes, and as we see here, hindsight is always at least 20/20 |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 07:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. It's not only hindsight, though. Japan was warned well before this. So were we. |
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Athena66 (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
44. It's SOP |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 06:40 AM Response to Original message |
3. It makes one want to give up in despair |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
28. Because capitalism is suicidal -- not only re nuclear power plants .... |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
57. "Capitalism is suicidal" and I would add it's homicidal as well - |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
7. Thank you AGAIN, WikiLeaks, for telling us the truth. We'd never hear it from an official source. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
29. +1000% -- we need to end this national security state -- |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #29 |
45. by abolishing the National Security Act of 1947 |
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tiny elvis (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
9. fukushima 1 was scheduled to be taken out of operation 3/26/11 |
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DailyGrind (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
41. Oops |
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JJW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
10. Just like New Orleans |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
64. My thought as well but New Orleans did not jeopardize the globe. |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
11. That damn Wikileaks being traitorous again! |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #11 |
40. My thoughts as well. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
14. This shows (again) why we need Wikileaks /nt |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
15. And where are all the pro-secrecy DUers now? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 09:26 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. this was already public knowledge and reported without Wikileaks. I read this days ago. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Is this what you are referring to? |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
55. ...: |
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ReggieVeggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
65. Jeebus Bless Bradley Manning! |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
16. K&R |
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Indydem (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
17. The earthquake itself did NOT cause this situation. |
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think (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I understand the technical point that |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. That's dividing the issue into proximate and ultimate causes |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #22 |
39. The Ultimate, Underlying Cause Was Building a Nuclear Bomb |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. A-fucking-men. And STILL thinking we can tame it. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Iow, "in unknown territory" -- plus the reactor was built to withstand only 7.0 quake .. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #17 |
33. The backup generators were below sea level. Tsunami is a Japanese word. Below sea level PLUS |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
37. So, it wasn't the mid-air collision that killed those on the plane |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 07:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
61. Without the earthquake, there would have been no tsunami. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
21. I've been worrying about this stuff since I was 15 years old. nt |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
23. How many Americans have ever seen a picture of a fuel-rod "cooling"-pool? |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #23 |
36. Here's one |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
49. I'm surprised by the shock expressed by people on this site |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. k, Digg &. . . . . Twitter? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. . . . a phestering phesesity! |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
27. File under "duh" - who would've thought building a nuclear plant |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
54. Yes. Counter-intuitive, doncha think? |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
34. Also, they allege the Govt was ignoring alt energy, covering up accidents, and ... |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
38. WikiLeaks Has the Skinny on EVERYTHING! |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
42. Wikileaks! Is there nothing they can't do? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
52. Wondering what my Navy nuclear engineer nephew is doing these days . . . nt |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-16-11 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
63. They knew, TEPCO cut costs over safety, govt was complicit... anything we haven't seen before? |
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