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Jimbo S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:16 PM
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'Miracle on Hudson' co-pilot withdraws money from M&I
Source: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Jeff Skiles, the co-pilot in the famous "Miracle on the Hudson" landing in January 2009, has been involved in the budget protests that engulfed Madison in recent weeks.

On Tuesday, he took another big step, choosing to withdraw what he said was hundreds of thousands of dollars of his own money from M&I Bank to protest the actions of bank executives there who backed Gov. Scott Walker.



Read more: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/118085079.html
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:17 PM
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1. Sullenberger is a Republican. Let's see if he does it too. n/t
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The Second Stone Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:20 PM
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2. Sullenberger lives in Danville, California
and probably banks here too.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:27 PM
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4. Interestingly, Sullenberger was very active in his union, ALPA.
The funny thing about airline pilots is that many of them are simultaneously politically conservative and hard-core union supporters. I don't know how they can handle that much of a mental disconnect.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:28 PM
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6. By not thinking of it as a "union", but rather as a "professional association". That's how.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:33 PM
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8. Yeah -- but you should see how worked up they get
if management doesn't comply with the exact letter of the contract; if that happens they sound just like a hard-core blue-collar union member.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:00 PM
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11. They want the union benefits AND the tax cuts.
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Veilex Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:23 PM
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12. While I'm inclined to agree...
Remember that the Conservatives of yesteryear (and republicans for that matter) are nothing like the extremists that are called conservatives and republicans today.
Perhaps he had a grain of sanity at one point.
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firehorse Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 02:04 PM
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17. Agree... moderates from not that long ago are nothing like right wing extremists today
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jacquelope Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 03:27 PM
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19. I used to be a Republican.
I still remember the way "we" used to celebrate Lech Walesa and the Unions and their war on Communism.

Nowadays? I doubt these neo-cons even know who Lech Walesa was. The confused b@stards would be calling him a "communist libt@rd" or whatever. Idiot Republicans. Dumbest days of my life.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 04:04 PM
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27. Yes, but "war on Communism" is key. Republicans never were pro U.S unions.
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 04:07 PM by No Elephants
At least not since J.D. Rockefeller's heyday. Don't know about before that.

But hot and cold wars, enemies of Russia? Sure Republicans are in favor of all those (with deferments and U.S. Air National Guard for them and theirs, of course). U.S. unions and U.S. workers, not so much.
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jacquelope Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 04:54 PM
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31. Point taken. Machiavelli rules the GOP.
They also supported Osama Bin Ladin. The enemy of their enemy, and all that.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 03:52 PM
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23. Self delete Dupe.
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 03:56 PM by No Elephants
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 03:53 PM
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24. One thing's sure: Rethugs have been worse than Dems for at
least 81 years.

And I do believe all the nostalgia for folk like Goldwater, Eisenhower and Nixon is misplaced. Besides, Sully ain't all that old.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 03:58 PM
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25. Pilot's union does very well for members.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 04:01 PM
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26. Easy...we're not all hard core conservatives
Those that are somehow see our situation as being "different.". I always point out that the corporate elite don't care what it takes to get this job or what's required to keep it, or even the responsibility involved. They can't accept that we are actually union labor.

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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 04:08 PM
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28. Oh, heck, I know that.
I work with you guys, and I know that there are many pilots who tend towards the liberal. I'm just always flummoxed when some fire-breathing ALPA supporter turns out to be a little to the right of Darth Vader where politics in general are concerned. And there are a lot of those, too.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 05:30 PM
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32. There are indeed a lot of them
I seem to fly with every one of 'em.

For the most part, their "politics" are Hannity/Beck talking pointsnthat they've repeated so much that they truly believe them. They make no attempt to reconcile this with their union membership.

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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 06:24 PM
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35. perhaps part of it is - many of you guys come out of the armed forces, into commercial flying.
many guys find it difficult to divorce themselves from the ongoing brainwashing that's SOP for paramilitary groups.
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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 06:26 PM
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37. anyway, here's to Jeff Skiles - a hero with brains. (n/t)
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 09:22 PM
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38. I came from the military
At least in my day, there wasn't political brainwashing going on. Also, I fly with a lot of civilian only backgrounds...the political breakout is about the same among them based on what I see.

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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:57 PM
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39. My favorite comment, from a very liberal pilot, re: unions vs. management:
"You may be the captain, but you're not the boss."
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 08:35 AM
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42. All pilots should read "Flying the Line" (Not much has changed...)
Great history of the formation of ALPA
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 05:59 PM
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33. You need to watch his testimony in Congress
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 08:33 AM
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41. +1 /nt
!!!!!!!!!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:22 PM
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3. I heard that the bank had to close early since so many were taking their money out
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:44 PM
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9. That turned out to be wrong.
That could have been a compliance issue for them, so I spent a bit of time looking into it.

But they were shut down by the protestors. It was such a large crowd that police asked the bank to close for safety reasons.

Similar effect, but not regulatory issues.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 04:23 PM
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30. Thanks for the clarity - it's best to know exactly what happened
:hi:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:28 PM
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5. Bravo, Jeff! nt
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studmoose Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:31 PM
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7. Right On!
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 12:48 PM
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10. Thank you, Sir
More like him need to do the same thing to bring attention to the importance of what happened in WI.

Name recognition is a definate plus to any cause, if they've done something good or brave.
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NEOhiodemocrat Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:35 PM
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13. Thank you Mr. Skiles
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:45 PM
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14. K and R all Pro Union threads
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 01:45 PM by Kingofalldems
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Dookiestix Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 01:53 PM
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15. Let us sincerely hope...
...that this is a sign of things to come. One of the few powers the American people have left are their pocketbooks. It's obvious at this point that their votes don't mean jack.
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 02:02 PM
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16. Hit them where it hurts!
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 02:36 PM
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18. Excellent. K&R n/t
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 03:32 PM
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20. Bravo Mr. Skiles!
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 03:43 PM
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21. You don't have to be progressive/liberal to belong to a union, in fact...
Overall, union membership pretty much mirrors the general public and local communities. Depending on the industry, there are some pretty hard core conservatives that are union members. I've know many. They usually make the very biggest bucks. But when it comes contract time, they are also the most aggressive union members in supporting the union.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 04:14 PM
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29. That's very true today. Once, though, labor was Dem, bosses were Rethug, almost
Edited on Wed Mar-16-11 04:19 PM by No Elephants
to a man and woman. After The Sixties culture wars, the Civil Rights Act and Roe v. Wade, things began shifting massively politically. JMO
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 06:26 PM
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36. Which is why labor has never and will never take positions on
abortion, guns, and all the other wedge issues. They only take positions on things that directly affect pay, benefits and working conditions.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 03:51 PM
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22. Good, solidarity in action.Last month, we took a large portfolio of paper out of the hands of
wall street, converted it to cash, and put it into a smaller local bank. The broker was stuttering as I demanded it be done asap, was asking me why, and telling me to rethink my decision lol. I told him that I don't keep my investments with companies who support Democrats, and he assured me that they, are on the side of the Republicons. I then said "great, I want my money moved today", you see I'm an independent and I don't want my money in the hands of people who are bent on destroying a whole class of people while enriching themselves and forcing through Draconian laws. He stuttered some more, I thanked him for his assistance, and the transaction was verified later that day. If we all did this, on a large scale, things would start to transform for the better, very quickly. I'm glad I made my decision and I won't look back. Also, I got out before all of this instability in the market lol.

Lou
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 06:14 PM
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34. A double hero!
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 12:24 AM
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40. Well, good on Mr. Skiles
But I keep wondering why people are not dumping their (especially) BofA accounts in droves. And the other swellfare bailouts that are back to business as usual.

Credit unions are the bomb.
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joanbarnes Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 09:31 AM
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43. Use a credit UNION
Why do people have any money in a bank anyway? I have never used one.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 11:11 AM
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44. Credit unions aren't labor unions - totally different, unrelated concept.
However, I totally agree that they are much better than banks.
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