Venezuela captures ELN rebels accused of attack

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Colombia Reports

Venezuela captures ELN rebels accused of attack
Friday, 18 March 2011 11:51
Kathryn Thompson

Four guerrillas from rebel group the ELN accused of Thursday's murder of four Colombian soldiers are captured in Venezuela, El Espectador reported Friday.

Colombian Defence Minister Rodrigo Rivera confirmed that the ELN rebels had been captured in the neighbouring country and that Venezuelan authorities are willing to hand them over.

In Thursday's incident ELN guerrillas attacked a Colombian Navy boat on the Arauca River, killing four and injuring two others. The attack was originally thought to have been carried out by the FARC.

Venezuelan Minister Tarek El Aissami said, "This shows that terrorists have increasingly fewer places to hide. There are no territories where they can hide."

Read more: http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/14994-venezuela-captures-eln-rebels-accused-of-attack.html

[David__77]

1. I hope the Colombians will engage in reciprocity.

Those who violate Venezuelan law and flee to Colombia should also be turned over.

[Arctic Dave]

2. Gee, no "good job" from the haters?

Only pop up when they want to knock people down.

[hack89]

4. If he would turn Arturo Cubillas over to Spain, then I would give him a "good job".

but this doesn't mean shit if he is not only harboring international terrorist leaders but also giving them jobs in his government.

[clixtox]

10. Haters?

It turns out that these "haters" and those sanguine with the abhorrent "status quo", might not actually be people at all.

It's likely that many of them are "bots" (sophisticated robots) or paid interlopers on the payroll of our many too-affluent reactionary foes.

Of course there will always be malignant trolls out there provoking and wasting the time of honest, sincere, truth-telling DUers.

What do you think?

[hack89]

3. Chavez just had one of his security officials indicted by a Spanish court

As being a leader of the terrorist group ETA.

Arturo Cubillas, a Basque militant who fled to Venezuela more than two decades ago, was naturalized in 2003 and has worked as head of security of the Agriculture Ministry since 2005.

The Spanish court indicted Mr. Cubillas for “collaborating” with a terrorist organization last year after a two-year investigation that traced his role as organizer of a series of seminars in Venezuelan jungles on explosives handling, kidnappings, and assassinations for ETA and guerrillas of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, which is also designated a terrorist organization.

But on Monday the court added a series of charges and indicted several more ETA and FARC militants, after admitting new evidence and testimony into the investigations.

Nothing was as damaging, though, as Cubillas being indicted as an ETA leader. “Arturo Cubillas has sustained, at least between 2004 and 2008, permanent contact with the leadership of terrorist organization ETA … with whom he has coordinated and executed directive duties, which far from being sporadic … constitute a crime of integrating as a leader in the American continent and from Venezuelan soil.”

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2011/0307/Chavez-bid-to-mediate-Libya-conflict-dims-further-with-official-s-indictment

Do you think he will turn Cubillas over to the Spanish? Of course not - Cubillas would spill the beans on Chavez in a heart beat.

[joshcryer]

5. This went under the radar and no one wanted to talk about it.

Believe me they are aware of this they just won't talk about it. I didn't force it down their throat because I have better things to focus on lately.

[Arctic Dave]

6. He sounds like one of the guys we are going to send to Libya.

Or one of the guys we sent El Salvador, Nicaragua, Panama, Argentina, etc, etc.

If we are going to burn one let's burn them all, ours included.

[hack89]

7. Chavez took in a foreign terrorist, gave him citizenship and a job in his government.

Surely even you can see the difference?

Lets cut to the chase - do you think Spain has jurisdiction and should Chavez hand him over?

[Arctic Dave]

8. Cut to the chase?

Sure he should and we should do it to all "terrorist" that the US employed in the same way from Vietnam until present day.

[Judi Lynn]

9. There's always Luis Posada Carriles, CIA, and mass murdering bomber!

Also took an active part in Iran/Contra, along with other Cuban "exiles," and on and on and on.

This slime, and his cohorts, have been living it up for decades on the U.S. taxpayers' dime.

Everyone has known about them forever, but apparently they don't count, do they?

[Arctic Dave]

13. Exactly.

What's the saying about throwing stones in glass houses.

[hack89]

17. Except Spain is the one throwing stones

doesn't that give it legitimacy? After all, there are many here that think Spain can and should indict and try Bush and Cheney for war crimes.

[Arctic Dave]

18. All terrorist should be brought to trial, ours included.

[hack89]

19. So do you think Chavez will turn him over?

can he risk it?

[Arctic Dave]

20. Why not. Should the US turn over all our terrorist, can we risk it?

[hack89]

21. Chavez and Obama are in the same fix

they are scared of all the secrets that will be revealed. The bigger fix that Chavez finds himself in is that more powerful countries can get away with it - weak countries like his are at the mercy of the strong. The world is more likely to turn on Chavez before they turn on Obama. If he doesn't handle this right, he is going to be tagged as a supporter of international terrorism - if the War On Terrorism (tm) puts him in its sights then he is fucked.

[Arctic Dave]

22. Obama has killed more civilians then Chavez, will be hard to call him the terrorist.

But no matter how many people Obama kills some people will be forever loyal.

[hack89]

23. Never said life was fair

The big difference is you can't tie Obama to a known terrorist group. ETN and FARC are notorious killers - I don't think most people will view them the same they view the US Army.

[Arctic Dave]

24. Pictures of them desecrating corpses may change that.

That and the funding of terrorist groups around the world we fund.

[hack89]

25. We tried those soldiers, remember?

They are in jail. Obama is going to be punished for punishing war criminals? Right.

What terrorist groups are you talking about?

[Arctic Dave]

26. Drones don't fly themselves do they?

On top of that the list of "security" contractors.

[hack89]

27. You are really reaching

none of that will elicit a yawn. I know it is important to you to be able to paint all soldiers as blood crazy killers but I don't think it is an meme that will stick. If Gitmo and Abu Ghraib didn't get the average American upset then nothing will.

They will certainly reject any attempt to conflate the US military with ETA or FARC - even though I am sure you will try your damnedest to do so.

[hack89]

16. So that justifies Chavez harboring an international terrorist?

why don't we put them all in jail? I would love to see Bush and Chavez in a Spanish court - it would certainly sent a strong message.

[hack89]

15. Good. I can imagine Bush and Chavez in adjacent cells in a Spanish jail. nt

[clixtox]

11. Alleging someone is a "Terrorist" depends on your perspective...

One persons "terrorist" is another's "freedom fighter".

The label, "terrorist", has nuance that isn't acknowledged by most of those who regularly use the term.

More to the point, why bring this person up in this thread? What "chase" are you "cutting to"?

Dredging up a non-sequitor and expecting a response indicates hubris unlikely in someone who is interested in any more than disruption and provocation!!!

[hack89]

14. The Chavanista want hosannas because he turned over four ELN foot soldiers

I am simply pointing out the hypocrisy of doing so while harboring ETA leaders.

ETA is a terrorist organization. This guy taught bomb making to FARC. Both groups are complicit in the murder of civilians.

Do you think Spain has jurisdiction? Do you think as a minimum Chavez should turn him over to Spain?

[clixtox]

12. Absolutely! Great idea...

justice for ALL war criminals needs to become the norm, rather than the exception. Both "winners" and "losers", every planner and perpetrator needs to be prosecuted or the madness will never end.