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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 08:54 AM
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Supreme Court tensions boil over (GOP Justice Calls Chief Justice "Bitch"Threatens To "Destroy" Her)
Source: MilwaukeeJournal Sentinal

Supreme Court tensions boil over
Prosser says he was goaded into insulting chief justice


By Patrick Marley of the Journal Sentinel
Madison - As the deeply divided state Supreme Court wrestled over whether to force one member off criminal cases last year, Justice David Prosser exploded at Chief Justice Shirley Abrahamson behind closed doors, calling her a "bitch" and threatening to "destroy" her.

The incident, revealed in interviews as well as e-mails between justices, shows fractures on the court run even deeper than what has been revealed in public sniping in recent years. Problems got so bad that justices on both sides described the court as dysfunctional, and Prosser and others suggested bringing in a third party for help, e-mails show.

Prosser acknowledged the incident recently and said he thought it was becoming public now in an attempt to hurt him politically. Prosser faces Assistant Attorney General JoAnne Kloppenburg in the April 5 election.

He said the outburst came after Abrahamson took steps to undermine him politically and to embarrass him and other court conservatives.

Read more: http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/118310479.html
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 08:58 AM
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1. R'd a million times
I read this last night, and thought, if people don't get off their butts and

vote on April 5 for Kloppenburg
(to replace Prosser), I'm... I'm.... I just don't know what I'll do!!! :mad:
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:07 AM
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4. K&R
This is all because there is a loss of civil discourse in society encouraged and magnified by the RW gasbags in the media. When your elected officials are permitted to engage in such publicly-uttered vitriol, it only serves to widen the chasm and creates the now-dysfunctional government (local/municipal, state, federal) that is evident today.
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bucolic_frolic Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:38 AM
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12. RW Gasbag??
Really? I'll have to remember that one. Thanks!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #12
17. Gasbag is merely accurate. nt
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #17
70. I think using RW and gasbag in the same sentence is redundant...

:hi:

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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 04:43 AM
Response to Reply #70
112. It is, of course. nt
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #12
71. Stumbled over another one for the GOP today:


The Reptilian Party.

That about sums it up...



:dem:

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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #71
80. But reptiles are selfish, cold-blooded animals that are less intelligent than mammals! Oh, wait...
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:45 AM
Response to Reply #4
16. You put your finger on it.
The gradual coarsening of public discourse has served a great purpose.

When we hear Limbaugh and others rail against "politically correct" speech there is a real reason behind it. I actually heard Limbaugh say one day that he wanted the right to call these 'people' names because they deserved to be called names.

Fascism can't survive unless bullying is acceptable. The abuse of racial and political minorities in 1920s and 1930s Germany didn't start with gas chambers. First there were insults that grew ever bolder. This escalated into violence. Witness todays political vitriol.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:19 AM
Response to Reply #16
23. I wish I could recommend a response for the greatest page.
This is absolutely correct, when I use the word "Republican" it is usually either preceded or followed by the "f" word, some variant thereof or a body part related thereto.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:09 AM
Response to Reply #23
35. You are very kind. nt
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:23 AM
Response to Reply #16
39. Short and sweet, you nailed it.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #16
64. It also serves to confuse and fatigue a simple mind. nt
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #16
92. +100. Fascism can't survive unless bullying is acceptable.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:51 AM
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45. oss of civil discourse in society encouraged and magnified by the RW gasbags in the media
YES !!

I am so with you on this!

Notice how the puke is also BLAMING the person he verbally assaulted for goading him. SHE MADE him do that, he is completely blameless.

Typical RW authoritarian, irresponsible, dysfunctional, perpetrator-mentality.

And because there is no public example modeling respectful discourse, people have come to the point where they can't even identify this rat-bagging cowardice as such, let alone know how to counter it.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #45
51. When "You Lie" was spewed during the SOTU
that underscored how deep the rot had penetrated within the GOP, where any minuscule speck that was left of self-respect and self-control, completely evaporated. It's as if the elected officials made a conscious decision to become self-appointed RW talk show hosts, their positions having given them the power to manipulate the media presence that they are afforded as elected officials.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 06:53 AM
Response to Reply #51
114. Well when Rupert is willing to give you a million $$$$ contract for a consulting gig
becoming a RW talk show host is on a lot of their minds I would imagine,let's not forget sister Sarah.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #51
120. yes, that was a blatant display of what they're about.
And media reported it but there was really no coordinated VOICE denouncing him AND THE SIMILAR TACTICS rampant everywhere.

No connecting the dots.

No collecting the evidence, no supporting examples shown.

It was presented as just (yet another) isolated incident.

The people capable of making the connection have no unified Voice
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #45
59. I noticed that!
Blaming HER for his outburst. It wasn't his fault he called her a bitch and threatened to destroy her, she MADE him become uncivil and dive into the gutter of discourse.

Wow.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 08:17 PM
Response to Reply #59
101. Blaming HER for his outburst.
Exactly!

And all this "She puts it all out in public..."

Like the Supreme Court of a state should work in secret? If there's a rift, doesn't he think the public should know? Shouldn't citizens of the state know what's going on in their elected Supreme Court?

As usual, the only ones whining like a toddler are the Repugs.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #59
119. yep
Typical.

Any basic book about dealing with difficult people, or dealing with narcissists explain the various responsibility avoidance techniques that lying scumbags use to cover their tracks.

Rule #1 is Blame the Victim.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:13 AM
Response to Reply #1
37. We need to learn the lesson here in WI of November last year:
Let's hope: Never Again!

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #37
72. Alt sign: "This is what happens when you vote for Republicans"
The "This is what happens when you don't vote" sign is tacitly blaming liberals. When the real problem is Walker voters.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #72
78. Yep and that's exactly what was spewed at last weeks Dem meeting in my county that just happened to
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 03:04 PM by 54anickel
also draw a record attendance. I consider myself pretty liberal, I voted, and I did not appreciate the blame for November's results. Our Fab 14 Dems have found out what happens when you truely represent your constituents. They have our loyalty and we have their backs. Give us some Dems with a spine to vote for instead of these DLC coached candidates.

By the way, they were looking for people willing to be candidates in local, non-partisan races to send to DLC training. I'm thinking of signing up, though I probably won't be a model student.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #78
82. If it's DLC training, there's no point.
That ship has sailed.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #78
87. Find a DFA training and go to it instead
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #87
89. Thanks much for the link! n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #89
93. Seriously. It's wonderful.
If you are thinking of running for office, I can't recommend it highly enough.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #87
104. Or Camp Wellstone n/t
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #72
103. The Walker voters still would have been crushed if Liberals
and Moderates would have come out in the same numbers they did in 2008. We weren't even close.

I don't understand why we can't accept some culpability in what happened?

I voted in WA state but I know a lot of Dems that didn't, even with my goading and pleading how important it was.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:24 AM
Response to Reply #37
115. or, this is what happens when they tabulate the votes
just have to keep hammering this...
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:04 AM
Response to Original message
2. life's a bitch
when the facts come out.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:06 AM
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3. 5th rec
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:07 AM
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5. Well, he's correct that this will affect the AP 5 election...
And having historically recorded bad behavior used against one's campaign is exactly the reason that elected officials don't act in a manner that creates an historical record of their bad behavior. Unfortunately, the teahadist movement doesn't respect emotionally balanced adults it regales in bullies.

This sort of abusive teahadist conservatism is what was seen in Grothman (protesters were slobs), and the Fitzgeralds. There is no doubt this will help keep a fire burning in the hearts of Wisconsinites. And we thank him for the light provided by his self-immolation.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:22 AM
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6. Republicon Family Mysogyny
What a pack of low-life scum the RepubliWhiners are...
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:24 AM
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7. Judicial temperament, Republican style
I'm sure Scalia and Thomas and Alito are his role models
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:25 AM
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8. oh, I thought this was about Scalia or Alito making a reference to Roberts
:rofl:
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:30 AM
Response to Reply #8
11. Good one wordpix.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #8
33. Bill Maher on Justice Roberts-- "Straight men don't pose with food." when this picture surfaced....
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #33
41. Aww, that's cute.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #41
50. Fat Tony wants in on that party---YUMMY!
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 12:37 PM by wordpix
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #33
53. THAT is some funny shit. nt
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #33
69. Priceless! n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #33
98. I see what you did there. You implied he hangs with gays and gay people are funny, right?
Right?
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #8
61. LOL not far off!
Sounds like something the two of them would shriek and clutch their pearls over.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:29 AM
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9. Now THERE'S a temperatment you want in a jurist.
:crazy:

While I'm thinking of it, standard answer to the "bitch" thing:

"That the best you got?"
"You call me a bitch like it's a bad thing." (I have this T-shirt).
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:38 AM
Response to Reply #9
13. one of my favourite t-shirts.
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #9
21. "You call me a bitch like it's a bad thing."
Fridge magnet here. along with "An attitude is a terrible thing to waste"

:rofl:


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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:32 AM
Response to Reply #21
27. "An attitude is a terrible thing to waste."
OMG! I SOOOO need that. I'm short and my friends have described me thusly; "What she lacks in height she makes up for in attitude."
:rofl:
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:13 AM
Response to Reply #27
36. Here ya go -- this is the exact one I have. I'll bet you might be able to find
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 11:46 AM by tpsbmam
t-shirts, etc.



I got mine at my local indie bookstore. Here's the website -- this appears to be the artist who created the magnets: http://ipn36373-b02706.cidr.lightship.net/magnets2.html She has other items this is printed on....maybe the sticky notes? LOL

This one might be appropriate for lots of DUers:




Edited to add: oh shit, I just found the perfect one for me. Next month's budget will include



I always claimed it was due to me being so busy with all of my achievements, studies and demanding work. Now I claim it's because I'm so physically challenged. Nah -- I'm just domestically disabled.


:rofl:


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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 06:20 PM
Response to Reply #9
94. I absolutely LOVE that!
:yourock: Le Taz Hot!


"That the best you got?"
"You call me a bitch like it's a bad thing." (I have this T-shirt).

HIGHLY recommended - on the strength of this post alone!
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #9
105. Being Totally In Charge of Herself n/t
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charmay Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:30 AM
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10. Prosser is just a typical republican bully
who whines and tries to blame everyone else when his disgusting behavior is spotlighted.

On the other hand, Kloppenburg appears to be a thoughtful, even-tempered person who will be an asset to the court.
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Roy Rolling Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:39 AM
Response to Reply #10
15. my thoughts exactly
"Pot...let me introduce you to the kettle."
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:26 AM
Response to Reply #10
117. I'm also amused by their use of soap opera/comic book-like phrases.
"I will destroy you!"

That's right up there with, "You'll never work in this town again!"

Absolute power corrupts absolutely, but in the wrong hands it can also make someone really really stupid.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:39 AM
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14. would this big, brave he-man have had the brass cojones to say something similar to a male chief
justice??
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #14
18. Oh, but
I'm sure a male chief justice wouldn't make him say those things, the way Shirley did.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:02 AM
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19. Ahhh, poor man was "goaded" - it wasn't his fault. Typical bullshit.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:24 AM
Response to Reply #19
26. and he is the abused one, of course
despite his verbal abuse and threats
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:07 AM
Response to Reply #26
34. Yep - abusers are always the victims in their minds.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #26
60. Of course it wasn't his fault!
She FORCED him to descend into the gutter of public discourse by disagreeing with him. If she would have just agreed with him, and acted more like a right-wing authoritarian, he NEVER would have had to hurl insults and threats.

He's the victim here!

:sarcasm:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:04 AM
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20. Tsk, how immature. nt
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:19 AM
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22. Damn Right!!!
Prosser is damned right this was released to hurt him politically...as it BLOODY WELL SHOULD HAVE!

This right wing ass-wipe doesn't belong on the supreme court...or even to be a member of the State Bar as far as I'm concerned.

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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:19 AM
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24. I so love what's happening in WI these days! I have this picture in my head
of the little plastic army toys my brother played with when he was a kid. I have this picture of this horde of citizens plowing through the right-wing ranks and those ranks are toppling over as they go.

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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #24
102. the little plastic army toys my brother played with when he was a kid.
We used to burn those and watch them melt while singing "he was brave....."
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:20 AM
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25. He, and other court conservatives, should be embarrassed.
But, alas, one must have a conscience in order to feel embarrassment.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:33 AM
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28. HUGE K & R !!!
:kick:
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:33 AM
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29. Yes, things like that tend to hurt you politically Mr. Prosser
especially if you are a dem. Now that it's happening to the likes of YOU, it's not fair? Jerk. I am personally working to make sure you lose in two weeks.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:45 AM
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30. Just pissed that he got his ass kicked by a woman. Typical. n/t
J
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:54 AM
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31. This guy is going to rule on Walker's union-busting law?
:scared:
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #31
55. Seeing how classy he is, the opinion would probably just read "Fuck you, Wisconsin."
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #55
84. Or "Stay classy, Madison".
:P
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rabies1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:02 AM
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32. Professionalism? Morality & ethics?
What the f is that sh*t?????
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TatonkaJames Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:22 AM
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38. This is becoming a problem to the highest degree
When you elect soccer moms and dads to office, you have that municipal mentality in play.
We no longer have any real statesmen at any level of government, so this is to be expected.
And the news will run with it because they too are nothing now but Gossip magazines.
This isn't really news anymore, it's commonplace.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:24 AM
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40. there's no way in hell he's winning
the next election.

April 5th - he's outta there!!

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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:35 AM
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42. these guys are Dominionists, they are responding to a threat to their Dogma.. Blasphemy !! >link>
his VENOMOUS attack on her is because of her Blasphemy to his duty to his Anti-Christ religion. all must submit to 'his' gods Great Plan.. his god wants the rich to get richer and for the poor to totally submit to god's great plan. his response is not unlike an Islamic Extremists to Blasphemy. Dominionism is Very similar to Sharia Law.

http://blog.buzzflash.com/hartmann/10016
..go down to "Strauss's students...

this is one of the best..
http://doggo.tripod.com/doggchrisdomin.html

THIS IS THE BEST INFO-- VERY WELL WRITTEN.!!
http://doggo.tripod.com/doggchrisdomin.html

http://www.amazon.com/Street-Fundamentalist-Threat-American-Democracy/dp/0316091073/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1300638354&sr=8-1



the Tax Cuts for the rich, trickle down economics, the New World Order, Globalism.. but who actually runs the GOP..??

these are all Dominionist Principals..!!

the Dominionists work in the Shadows. in 1934 a Nazi refugee Abraham Vereide started what is now the "C st Family", the Christian Fellowship, A.K.A.the Christian Mafia.. and have taken the Evangelical movement into the Dark Side. THEY ARE BY DEFINATION..the Anti-Christ, don't get me wrong, i am a Buddhist i don't believe in the 'Revelation's', but i did grow up in the Free Holyness Pentecostal church. when i was 6 our Sunday school taught us Revelation's. then Romans, Acts, then Revelation's again, but i have a IQ of 164.. so it didn't stick.

the Dominionists believe that God/Jesus only bless the Rich, Wealth and Power is proof of gods Favor of a man/corporation, so it is a sin to tax them. God Speaks directly to the rich/Powerful, the poor must "Submit" totally to their will, and become a slave to god. the poor/sick are being punished by god so it is a sin to help them, or not to torment them.

Trickle Down doesn't mean money, it means only gods blessings to those who followed gods greatest plan and made the rich richer. the New World Order is the Utopian Paradise created when all the worlds poor submit to gods great plan, and become slaves.. the GOP is Theocratic Cargo Cult of OCD psychotic narcissistic wealth/power hoarders.. in the 30's Depression FDR appointed Abraham Vereide to a Cabinet position to start programs for the poor to bring them out of poverty.. Vereide's plan was to start Dominionist evangelical "Revivals" all over the country, only the Poor who came and prayed thru and totally submitted to the Dominion of the rich and Gods great plan would get help. he was replaced ..he immediately began undermining the New Deal.. still the fundamental purpose of the GOP is to repeal the New Deal, because it is the work of Satan, communists and Socialists, all interchangeable.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:45 PM
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54. True enough. The christian religion is mostly anti-christ and full of spiritual poison.
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 12:46 PM by L0oniX
One only has to read the story about how the king invited friends RSVP and they all had reasons not to show up. So the king told his servants to go out and invite people off the street ...they came but it wasn't enough so he sent them out again and told them to bring in the poor and infirm and lowly ...and they all had diner together. This is the key to understanding just who will end up with God.

This story is also repeated in another form. You'd think that people who claim to believe in God would actually read up and at least try to put things in proper perspective. The one most important thing in understanding the bible is to know that everything in the old testament is done away with. Anyone who wishes to endeavor in a belief in the God of the bible should filter everything they read through the perspective of the 4 books containing the history of the life of Jesus. He had no home ...he hung out with prostitutes, thieves, the sick, the poor, the children, the crippled. He gave people food ...in more than one way. He did not hang out with rich people or those in control.

I don't blame you for seeking another religion.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:49 AM
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118. Actually shariah law *requires* the rich to give to the poor
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 10:49 AM by Oak2004
Dominionism is worse.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:39 AM
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43. the back story is fascinating, and outrageous
Seems there was an ethics complaint against another State Supreme Court justice, Gableman over a racist and untrue ad he ran in 2008 when he was elected. Quote:


Gableman's ad ran in March 2008 during his campaign against then-Justice Louis Butler Jr. It discussed the case of Reuben Lee Mitchell, a child sex offender whose case Butler worked on when he was a public defender.

"Butler found a loophole. Mitchell went on to molest another child. Can Wisconsin families feel safe with Louis Butler on the Supreme Court?" the ad said.

But it did not tell viewers that Butler was unsuccessful in getting Mitchell out of prison and that Mitchell served his sentence before committing the subsequent crime.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/97557794.html

The Chief Justice and two others wanted Gableman prosecuted for the ad, Prosser and two others did not (duh, Gableman is a republican and a bully)

Republicans are the school yard bullies who tormented us and continue to do so. It's what makes them tick. And what they want is our lunch money.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:50 AM
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44. He's history. His-story! Cuz his story of how it happened sux!
Seriously delusional power-hungry judge.

Bye-bye, bad guy.

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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:05 PM
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46. Is that what's considered ''strict construction-ism'' nowadays? nt
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 12:05 PM by Guy Whitey Corngood
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sallydallas Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:12 PM
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47. Oh, Prosser
"he thought it was becoming public now in an attempt to hurt him politically"
Well, maybe you shouldn't have been a jerk then, huh Jerk? I swear, the GOP is currently the party of narcissists and sociopaths.

GO KLOPPENBURG!
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:27 PM
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48. Welcome to DU, sallydallas!
:hi: :toast:
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sallydallas Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:32 PM
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49. Thanks!
I was actually a member quite a while ago but it seems my username was somehow lost in the matrix.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:58 PM
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57. Well, welcome back then!
I totally agree with your assessment of the GOP membership. Thugs and whiners.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:41 PM
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52. The GOP yet again continues to show class and elegance.
:sarcasm:
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:56 PM
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56. Vote for JoAnne Kloppenburg -APRIL 5!!
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 04:24 PM
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85. Exactly, a vote for Kloppenburg moves the court left, away from the radical right
judges who are making decisions to enable Republican rule no matter how crazy it becomes. This will be a big win, since much of what is happening in Wisconsin, because of Dicktator Walker, will probably be taken up by the court at some time in the future. Kloppenburg will bring balance back to Wisconsin's crazy conservative leaning State Supreme Court. Her opponent, Justice David Prosser, apparently has a problem with women in power, just like most of the radical, rabid, Republicon right. I wouldn't really trust Justice David Prossers vote on anything, especially cases related to womens issues. Hopefully, Wisconsin's thinking majority, will vote that bigot out, and seat a ("Justice Kloppenburg") to the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Kloppenurg is a person with integrity and who as a Justice, will have the best interest of all the people of Wisconsin at heart, according to the rule of law and not ideological, angry, uncontrolled, emotion. Let's face it, Justice David Prosser, would never had said this to a male member of the court. Women in power, to Justice Prosser, are "Bitches" who force him and goad him into calling names and attacking them. A blame the victim kind of Justice is what Justice David Prosser is as are so many on the Republicon side who sit in positions of power. Justice David Prosser, must be replaced with a Justice JoAnne Kloppenburg for the sake of the rule of law in the state of Wisconsin. JOANNE KLOPPENBURG FOR WISCONSIN SUPREME COURT JUSTICE! PLEASE VOTE ON APRIL 5TH TO UNSEAT BIGOT Justice David Prosser and elect a person with integrity, JOANNE KLOPPENGURG.
Lou

Are woman in positions of power, considered Bitches to Republicon males in power?

Can you be a woman in power, without the Republicons in power thinking of you as a Bitch?

My answer to both is NO, Republicons think of women as sexual objects who should be at home serving the husbands/males while the male Republicon leaves the cave to go find meat for his family. She should clean the cave and prepare the meat when he gets home after clubbing and dragging home the evening meal.
Later, if she misbehaves, he will take her by the hair and drag her around until she comes to her senses.
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:06 PM
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58. Another GOPer activing like a victim.........this is his

comment. Reminds me of judges who -on the bench- have stated women need to put more clothes on because men can not control themselves.


"Prosser says he was goaded into insulting chief justice"
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Nossida Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:18 PM
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62. Hey!!!!!
If you would keep Judges out of the
Election farce this would not happen.

The Judicial Branch of Government has been
completely Sold Out to the Politicians.

The US has the "Best Justice System Money Can Buy".
Just like the Politicians.

Hows that Democracy thing working for ya Guys?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:21 PM
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63. POLITICS!?!? What, like when you ELECT JUDGES???
See MAssey's Blankenship and the Supreme Court justice in West Virginia


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radhika Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:33 PM
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65. So I guess WI-SCOT isn't a lifetime appointment..
How often do they have to run for re-election?
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 05:59 PM
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90. 10 year terms. n/t
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:51 PM
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66. Prosser is unstable, AND a Republican tool. Typical misplaced raging by the codependent right

If it wasn't already clear to everyone, former Republican Assembly Speaker David Prosser got himself elected to the Wisconsin Supreme Court to be a judicial activist judge for corporations and conservative special interests. His rant about other people "goading" him into saying stupid things is so typical of the FOX news mindset. It's always someone else's fault. It's clear he doesn't have the temperament, judicial or otherwise, to sit on the bench.

Anyone with an interest in helping restore balance to the Wisconsin Supreme Court should be helping JoAnne Kloppenburg beat this tool.

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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:53 PM
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67. RE: Conflict of interest that started all of this:
"In 2008, the court took the unprecedented step of formally reprimanding Ziegler, ruling she had violated the judicial ethics code as a Washington County Circuit Court judge, by presiding over cases involving a bank where her husband served on the board of directors."

Uh, ya think? Republicans think they can be bought and paid for in any manner, and it's just hunky dorey. No conflict of interest, just buddies, ey?

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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 01:58 PM
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68. He obviously LACKS the requisite "judicial temperment."
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 01:58 PM by snot
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on point Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:11 PM
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73. The repukes continue to display their fascist tendencies!!
When you know you are right and other people don't matter, then all avenues are open to oppress them. It just comes out everywhere.

They have contempt for everyone but themselves, and their thin veneer of fake civilization slips off ever more frequently so we can see them for the monsters they are, and the monstrosity our country will become unless they are shut down.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:14 PM
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74. Prosser? Any relation to THE Prosser of tort law?
I sure hope not.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 04:16 PM
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83. Prosser is the EXPERT on Tort law...
but this isn't THAT Prosser...
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Loki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:16 PM
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75. Typical....
another republican male with a small dick.






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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:17 PM
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76. I'm surprised he wasn't censured by the bar of WI
oh, strike that... I'm not surprised, given the vulgarity that passes as discourse these days in the political arena... masquerading as "you're being PC and taking my right to say what I want away!!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!"
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:52 PM
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77. Prosser says Abrahamson goaded him into it.
That's what spousal abusers say.

My guess at what happened is that Abrahamson bested Prosser in an argument, and he couldn't take his defeat.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 06:01 PM
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91. Sounds a lot like the "she was asking for it" defense, doesn't it. n/t
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 07:17 PM
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100. Yes. Remember the Rand Paul thug who beat up that rather frail young woman?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 03:02 PM
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79. This line caught my attention...
"He said the outburst came after Abrahamson took steps to undermine him politically and to embarrass him and other court conservatives."

I mean, really, after what the R's did to themselves over the last couple of months, what in God's name could they do to undermine or embarrass themselves any further? As far as political "harm", anyone in WI with an R after their name, is pretty well in complete meltdown as it is.

Hopefully, Ms. Kloppenburg will crush this little weasel in the election...:D



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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:36 PM
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107. I bet the 'steps' she took were merely telling the truth. That would embarrass the pig.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 03:41 PM
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81. Seems he doesn't need any help embarrassing himself. Gotta love how Repubs always think that
someone mentioning what they did is the problem, not what they actually did.

Sheesh.

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wial Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 04:36 PM
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86. thought the part of his threat about it not being a ground war
most significant. that implies an aerial bombing campaign from afar, in other words, Koch brothers TV advertising.

Too bad there's no such thing as ack ack for corporate PR bombers.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 05:24 PM
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88. Printing someone's words is now partisan?
He thinks these outrageous comments he made are being brought to light in partisan fashion to harm his chances in the next election.

Thank goodness he didn't molest a child, we'd have to keep it under our hat until after the election, just so it'll be a fair contest.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 06:21 PM
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95. "embarrass him and other court conservatives." From what I've seen,
They do not require any assistance.
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 06:43 PM
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96. Poor Baby - Him got goaded! Prosser you ignorant douche!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 06:44 PM
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97. It so unfair, the way liberals just use conservatives' own words against them.
Maybe it's out of context. Maybe he meant "bitch" in the nice way. Maybe he meant he'd "destroy" her with flowers.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 06:58 PM
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99. This is workplace harassment, and prosser should be impeached /nt
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:54 PM
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109. He certainly used threading language...
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TxVietVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:23 PM
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106. All one has to do is go to Madison or Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and turn on AM radio..
Then, you know why this kind of thing goes on with the conservanazis being so evil. It's on the public airwaves, 24/7, demonizing Democrats, liberals, progressives, blacks, gays, and anyone else the conservanazis hate.

Now is the time to start progressive radio stations. In Madison, listen to the MIKE at 92.5 (please correct me). Aslo in SE Wisconsin, listen to WCPT, in Chicago or 1290 WMCS. Great progressive radio talent there. Support them. Let them know you support them. Help them get stronger signals out. We as a team have to get the message out. Counter the conservanazi hate machine.

If we roll over, the conservanazis will crush us.

I hope Judge Shirley Abrahamson to Prosser to stick it where the sun don't shine. I voted for her. She stands for the people. The rest of the conservanazis on Wisconsin's Supreme Court are bought and paid for idiots for the Kock Brothers, sorry, I mean Koch brothers.
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orbitalman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:25 PM
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108. K & R
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:55 PM
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110. What does Prosser mean, it won't be a ground war?
"In a fit of temper, you were screaming at the chief; calling her a 'bitch,' threatening her with '. . . I will destroy you'; and describing the means of destruction as a war against her 'and it won't be a ground war,' " Bradley wrote in a Feb. 18, 2010, e-mail to Prosser and others.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:40 AM
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111. What was the name of that that beer hall where Hitler got his start?
In my estimation, we're just about there.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 06:11 AM
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113. The RE:pigs can dish it out but they can't take it...
They cry like little babies when they are under the gun.
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Tamara in Madison Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:11 AM
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116. Here's another article about that
I found another article that references the Journal Sentinel article you mention and provides a little more insight on this: http://www.examiner.com/independent-in-madison/justice-prosser-s-outburst-may-influence-wisc-supreme-court-election

I wonder if this will influence the election. Prosser was a shoo-in until WI woke up.

T in Madison
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