Saadi Gaddafi 'gave order to shoot' in Benghazi revolt (protest where more than 200 civilians died)

[Turborama]

Source: BBC

March 21 2011 Last updated at 08:34 GMT

One of Col Gaddafi's sons has denied an eyewitness claim he personally ordered soldiers in Benghazi to shoot at unarmed demonstrators.

Saadi Gaddafi was sent to Benghazi in response to the protests in the city in which more than 200 civilians died.

A veteran Libyan soldier told the BBC that Saadi Gaddafi came to the city's Katiba barracks where he gave orders to fire if protests continued.

"I heard Saadi say with my own ears, I swear to God," said the soldier.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12789740

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x705275">FYI: 219 Arab Organizations Called For Libya No-fly Zone & A U.N. Investigation Into Atrocities

[pinboy3niner]

1. K&R

[joshcryer]

2. First witness to the ICC.

One of many.

[snot]

3. Question:

One thing I've read on DU that troubles me greatly . . . and I hope this is an ok place to ask about it . . . is that the Libyans (meaning, the revolutionaries, not just the old regime) DO NOT WANT outside intervention.

True? If so, why are they not the best judge of whether we could intervene?

[oberliner]

6. Libyan Rebels Plead For No-Fly Zone In Interview

BAYDA, Libya — A rebel leader pleaded Saturday with the international community to approve a no-fly zone over Libya as Moammar Gadhafi's forces gained strength in the east, securing a key port city and oil refinery.

Mustafa Abdul-Jalil, the head of the opposition's interim governing council, also expressed disappointment over the failure to act by the United States and other Western countries, which have expressed solidarity with the rebels in their fight to oust Gadhafi but stopped short of approving any military action.

"If there is no no-fly zone imposed on Gadhafi's regime, and if his ships are not checked then we will have a catastrophe in Libya," Abdul-Jalil told The Associated Press in an interview in a professors' lounge at the Omar Mukhtar University in Bayda, where he is also head of the city council.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/12/libyan-rebels-plead-for-n_n_834886.html

[snot]

8. Thank you. But aren't we doing a lot more than creating a no-fly zone?

If that's all we were doing, we'd just be bombing planes and airports.

But now, it seems we're eliminating all Libyan defenses against US.

[snot]

4. While I'm at it, another question:

. . . please bear with my ignorance, I'm NOT trying to be an wise-*ss . . .

I'd have thought that imposing a "no-fly zone" would mean, we stop the Libyan old regime from flying, so as to prevent them from bombing their own people, which seemed to be doing them the greatest harm.

Instead, it seems to mean, WE're bombing THEM so as to take out the country's ability to defend themselves from US.

Wouldn't our "no-fly" goal have been accomplished simply by taking out their planes and airports? What exactly are we doing?

Thanks.

[neoralme]

5. We are making a mistake. Had we used politcal rhetoric when

the revolutionaries captured all those cities, I think we may have been able to get Ghadaffi to leave on his own. By doing it now, our motives are questionable. Myself, I think there is a hidden element to this. And I believe that element is Hillary Clinton and has to do with her defeat in the 2008 election. But, whatever the reason, we never should have started firing Cruise missiles without securing congressional (war funders) permission regardless of whether it was a UN decision or not.

[snot]

7. "we never should have started firing ... without ... congressional ... permission"--Agreed.