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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 06:18 PM
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New Problems Arise at Japanese Nuclear Plant
Source: NYTIMES

The Japanese electricians who bravely strung wires this week to all six reactor buildings at a stricken nuclear power plant succeeded despite waves of heat and blasts of radioactive steam.

The restoration of electricity at the plant, the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station, stirred hopes that the crisis was ebbing, but nuclear engineers say some of the most difficult and dangerous tasks are still ahead — and time is not necessarily on the side of the repair teams.

The tasks include manually draining hundreds of gallons of radioactive water and venting radioactive gas from the pumps and piping of the emergency cooling systems, which are located diagonally underneath the overheated reactor vessels. The health warning that infants should not drink tap water — even in Tokyo, far from the stricken plant — raised alarms about extensive contamination.

“We’ve got at least 10 days to two weeks of potential drama before you can declare the accident over,” said Michael Friedlander, who worked as a nuclear plant operator in the United States for 13 years.

MORE...

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/24/world/asia/24nuclear.html
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 06:43 PM
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1. An industry statement if ever there was one -
Edited on Wed Mar-23-11 06:44 PM by truedelphi

“We’ve got at least 10 days to two weeks of potential drama before you can declare the accident over,” said Michael Friedlander, who worked as a nuclear plant operator in the United States for 13 years.



It will not be over in two weeks for those in Japan whose family members have been exposed to heavy duty blasts of radiation.

It will not be over for women who are pregnant, and have been downwind of this disaster. And in addition to wrrying about the direct radiation they may have experienced, they might not have enough food to sustain a healthy pregnancy, as regardless of the radiation risk, an embryo needs nourishment to survive.

Children's health will have been seriously compromised - both their health now, and a generation from now when they attempt to conceive a baby and start a family of their own.

The only people this might be over for in two weeks are the slimeballs at GE who went over to Japan with Bush officials in 2006. Then and there they saw to it that the popular mayor of Fukushima was removed from office, and his goal of de-commissioning the plant was no longer attainable. Then they installed a pro-nuke industry guy as the new mayor, and made sure that this poorly designed plant kept on a-running.

Because by managing the prss so well, and convincing so may people that this is just a little "burp' that won't affect much, it is possible that GE's stock dividends will rebound.

And then they can get moving this nation into more nuclear reactor building as well.


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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 07:07 PM
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8. Sounds like an important story, about mayor, but I can't find a good link
to documentation??
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 08:13 PM
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23. The entire story is one told to me by a Japanese friend.
I imagine that many people in the Fukushima prefecture would be able to corroborate what K has told me, except for most of them being in the midst of a national emergency. (Earthquake/tsunami, and now the nuclear problem.)

I am hoping he calls me so I can receive an update on the conditions there. he speaks Japanese fluently of course, and he was going to run by me any developments that are going on.

but so far we are playing phone tag. (He is here safely in the USA; while his family has trekked out of Tokyo to be in possibly safer environment.)


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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 11:00 AM
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20. Picture of the "Sarcophagus"


:scared: Creepy as all hell!

Thanks for the link!

:kick:
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 11:38 AM
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22. LOL- I thought the same thing. Apparently "drama" is the new word for the politically-unspeakable.
"Fukushima nuclear power plant released large clouds of drama which meteorologists fear may be blown over Western Japan. Japanese Emo/Goth community seeks U.N. protection."

PB
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 08:20 PM
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24. Agree -- K/R for your post --
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 06:57 PM
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2. How and where does one drain hundreds of gallons of radioactive water? nt
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 07:04 PM
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4. Regressive Party water coolers??
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 07:04 PM
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5. This is what they did in Chernobyl first. Where it goes I don't know. It's a poison pill
for mankind, this kind of energy.
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BrookBrew Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 07:09 PM
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10. You mean after the core exploded fuel and graphite..
I dont see that step yet..
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 10:43 PM
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15. Yes, after it blew up and a meltdown into the pool of water was inevitable. You're right. nt
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:20 PM
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11. Most of the water in Chernobyl turned into steam, then condensed over the land or followed the
Edited on Wed Mar-23-11 09:22 PM by jtuck004
same trail as other finer water vapor does.

As they began to pull fuel over the years from the still working reactors it went into a pond, where it sits until it is cool enough to store.

Same as we do here, except for where people suggest such a thing is a security risk and store it in the secondary chamber of the reactor.

As if what we have now isn't a security risk...
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:29 PM
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12. For the interested Gregg Dempsey, in 1998, took pictures inside the sarcophagus
that covers the site of Reactor #4, guided by the people who work there.

http://www.epa.gov/radiation/rert/chernobyltour/index.html#viewertop

eerie...
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 06:20 AM
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18. Thanks for the link. Will definitely look through them later. nt
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jschurchin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 07:04 PM
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6. How about into TEPCO's executive swimming pool?
Just a thought.
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 07:08 PM
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9. I'll give a hint: It starts with "O" and rhymes with "shun".
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 10:21 PM
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14. Might as well use the GOM sludge pit.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 10:45 AM
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19. Into the ocean. NT
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 07:03 PM
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3. There is a shitload of things to worry about. A new one: salt buildup. It doesn't end. nt
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The Second Stone Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 07:07 PM
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7. How come the dangerous work is being done by workers
who will be forgotten and underpaid? How about execs and politicians who put these lives in danger do the work?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 10:14 PM
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13. Their minds are too beautiful for that. n/t
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GReedDiamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 11:34 AM
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21. That's not a bad suggestion, but...
...unfortunately, corporate executives and politicians don't do "work."

They simply suck the life out of the actual workers.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 12:29 AM
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16. Steam rising from 4 reactors at Fukushima plant (NHK News)
An NHK helicopter crew has confirmed what appears to be steam rising from No. 1, 2, 3 and 4 reactor buildings at the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

This is the first time that steam has been seen coming out of the No.1 reactor.

The helicopter crew was filming from a location more than 30 kilometers from the plant shortly before 7:00 AM on Thursday.

The Tokyo Electric Power Company says that black smoke seen rising from the No.3 reactor building on Wednesday was no longer visible as of 6:00 AM Thursday.

Thursday, March 24, 2011 09:31 +0900 (JST)

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/24_18.html
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 12:31 AM
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17. Pressure rises inside No.1 reactor container (NHKNews)
Tokyo Electric Power Company is taking measures to reduce pressure inside the No.1 reactor containment vessel at the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

The power company began injecting more water into the No.1 reactor on Wednesday, after temperatures on the reactor surface reached about 400 degrees Celsius, exceeding the safety limit of 302 degrees. Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency says the influx of massive amounts of water has raised the pressure inside the reactor containment vessel.

The power company cut back on the water injection early on Thursday. This resulted in pressure inside the container dropping to 0.3585 mega-pascals, below the safety limit of 0.528 mega-pascals. The reactor temperature also dropped to 243 degrees as of 5:00 AM on Thursday.

The safety agency says the reactor remains stable for now, but it will continue monitoring it carefully.

Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:56 +0900 (JST)

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/24_29.html
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