Doctor says Hinckley no longer a threat

[discocrisco01]

Source: UPI


WASHINGTON, March 27 (UPI) -- John Hinckley Jr., who shot and wounded President Ronald Reagan in 1981, is no longer dangerous, a psychologist who examined him says.

CNN, citing court records, reports a forensic psychologist at St. Elizabeths Hospital in Washington, has testified that "Hinckley has recovered to the point that he poses no imminent risk of danger to himself or others."

But former U.S. Attorney Joseph DiGenova, who prosecuted the would-be assassin, told CNN, "I think John Hinckley will be a threat the rest of his life. He is a time bomb."

Hinckley, who was found not guilty by reason of insanity in 1982, has gotten his furlough visits to his mother's home in Williamsburg, Va., expanded to a dozen visits of 10 days each since 2009




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[Turbineguy]

1. Reaganomics

still is.

[UpInArms]

2. Bush Son Had Dinner Plans With Hinckley Brother Before Shooting

www.hereinreality.com/hinckley.html

The Associated Press Domestic News
March 31, 1981, Tuesday, PM cycle

The family of the man charged with trying to assassinate President Reagan is acquainted with the family of Vice President George Bush and had made large contributions to his political campaign, the Houston Post reported today.

The newspaper said in a copyright story, Scott Hinckley, brother of John W. Hinckley Jr., who allegedly shot Reagan, was to have dined tonight in Denver at the home of Neil Bush, one of the vice president's sons.

The newspaper said it was unable to reach Scott Hinckley, vice president of his father's Denver-based firm, Vanderbilt Energy Corp., for comment. Neil Bush lives in Denver, where he works for Standard Oil Co. of Indiana.

In 1978, Neil served as campaign manager for his brother, George W. Bush, the vice president's oldest son, who made an unsuccessful bid for Congress. Neil lived in Lubbock throughout much of 1978, where John Hinckley lived from 1974 through 1980.

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[Sonoman]

14. I have always wondered about that one.

How many Presidential candidates pick their primary opponent as VP?

That would only happen to GHWB, the guy who cannot remember where he was when JFK was shot (neither could Nixon).

Sonoman

[happyslug]

20. Prior to 1980, more the norm then the exception.

Basically primaries were expanded after 1968, so it became the norm that the party's candidate won the primaries. Not the case prior to 1972, The Democratic Candidate in 1968 (Herbert Humphrey) did not even run in the primaries in 1968.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1968

The most famous example of this was the 1912 GOP primaries, Theodore Roosevelt nine of the 12 primaries (Even more progressive Robert M. LaFollette, Sr. won North Dakota and Wisconsin. Roosevelt won Illinois, Pennsylvania, Nebraska, Oregon, Maryland, California, Ohio, New Jersey, and South Dakota, losing only Massachusetts to Taft. Taft's only primary victory. Taft still won the Nomination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1912

Kennedy picked Johnson as his running mate in 1960, for Johnson had the greatest level of support within the Democratic party except for JFK in 1960. FDR picked John Nance Garner in exchange for Texas delegate votes in the 1932 Convention.

Map of 1960 Democratic Primaries:

Notice JFK won 9 out of 14 primaries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1960

Earlier it was common for Presidents to change VPs between Terms, Lincoln did that in 1864 (replacing his GOP VP with the Democratic Johnson as part of the "Union Party" Lincoln ran as in 1864.

Under Jefferson and Madison, George Clinton was VP under Jefferson second term, and was the VP for Madison's first term (And would have stayed, but died in office).

John Calhoun was VP under John Quincy Adams and the first term of Andrew Jackson. Thus Calhoun switch parties twice, first from Adams to Jackson, then Jackson to the Anti-Jacksons of that time period.

US Grant had two different VPs, and it was the second one that died in office not the first.

FDR had three Different VPs. Garner, Henry Wallace and then Harry Truman, Harry Truman replaced Henry Wallace for the big City Democratic Bosses had found they could NOT work with Wallace (he was to much of a perfectionist) and realizing FDR was sick knew FDR would NOT finish his next term and wanted someone they could work with, thus Truman became FDR's Third VP and later President of the United States.

I will ignore Agnew, he is the only VP to resign do to Criminal Charges (Calhoun is the only other VP to resign, but that was do to the growing dislike between Calhoun and Jackson over the Tariff, Jackson wanted to maximize revenue, Calhoun wanted no tariff at all).

President Ford was the Second President who could name a VP, whenever the VP position came open (This amendment passed in 1967). Nixon had been the first and picked Ford. Ford picked Nelson Rockefeller. When Ford ran for President in his own right, Ford replaced Rockefeller with Robert Dole. Reagan was also running in the primaries that year and came to the GOP convention with his hand picked proposed VP, Senator Richard Schweiker, who he replaced with Bush Senior in 1980 when Reagan won the GOP nomination.

List of VPs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Vice_Presidents_of_the_United_States

[Ter]

25. Didn't it also happen in 2004 and 2008?

John Kerry picked John Edwards. Pretty sure both ran for President that year. Also, didn't Biden briefly run for President in 2008?

[SharonAnn]

23. JFK, for example.

[Ter]

24. He was programmed with MKULTRA, as was John Lennon's killer

However we feel about Reagan, this needs to come out. Poppy Bush tried to kill Ronald Reagan, and nearly succeeded. He is a wickedly evil man.

[Sonoman]

27. And George had no idea...

of where he was when JFK was shot.

Neither did Nixon.

I remember just exactly what I was doing when I heard the news.

Sonoman

[kestrel91316]

3. Unless he is over 60, I wouldn't trust him. IIRC he has paranoid schizophrenia.

My mom also has/had it, and didn't settle down until she hit her 60's, at which point she wasn't quite such a nut. She was still a nut, mind you, but the raving delusions did not dominate her life as much, and she functioned better.

A clinical psychologist client of mine once told me they often simmer down once they reach their 60's.

[Ex Lurker]

6. He must be getting close to that age now

but I'll bet Jodie Foster will be happy for him to stay right where he is.

[murielm99]

17. The same was true of my grandfather.

He was institutionalized for a big part of his adult life. He was released in his late sixties, and he lived on his own, and quietly, until he died at 76. He was probably only a danger to himself when he was at his sickest.

[skamaria]

4. In other news John Lennon still dead.

[warrior1]

5. I would fear for

Jody Foster's life. Let him rot in jail.

[aquart]

7. I don't care. He shot a president.

There is no retirement age for that.

[happyslug]

21. And was ruled NOT guilty on that charge...

Thus the only legal issue is the question of his sanity. Who he killed is legally unimportant. Remember what the Jury found was that John Hinckley Jr was incapable of forming the intent to harm someone. The US Supreme Court has ruled you need to prove INTENT in nay criminal act (intent can be minor, i.e. going faster then the speed limit, but the intent to go some speed is enough to prove intent). The Jury found John Hinckley Jr did not have the mental capacity to form intent, and thus he was insane.

Please note, it is up to the Defense to show insanity NOT the prosecution to show that a person is sane. The law presumes everyone is sane (provided you are over seven years of age, through a lower standard is used for people between the ages of seven and 14 as oppose to people over age 14). The above is the Common Law Rule, it has been changed in most Jurisdictions over the last 100 years, in the last 30 making it harder to show insanity, and in some jurisdictions it is harder today to show insanity then under the Common Law.

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[stockholmer]

9. wow, I despise Reagan, but that is pretty harsh statement n/t

[gkhouston]

10. He's probably in remission now because he's on meds now. What happens if

they release him and he's stops taking his meds? Wouldn't his own life be in some danger, in any case? There's probably some Reagan-worshipping nutjob out there who would go after him.

[ColesCountyDem]

11. That's nice, but it doesn't change the fact that he shot the POTUS.

He needs to die of old age while locked safely away....

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

12. ...to Reagan.

[Codeine]

13. Yyyyyeah.

When you shoot a president you need to be put away forever, mmkay?

[bemildred]

15. And as long as he is in the slammer, he will continue to be no threat. nt

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

16. Maybe we should let him out ...

a few years after Sirhan Sirhan walks.

[msanthrope]

18. I find myself agreeing with Joe DiGenova, and I need to go sit down now.....n/t

[The Nexus]

19. Has anyone ever thought what life would be like if Hinkley completely succeeded?

nt

[Ter]

26. The world would be much worse off today

After eight years of Poppy Bush (if he got re-elected in 1984), the New World Order would be in full swing today.

[ReggieVeggie]

28. Seems that few here believe in rehabilitation

lock em up and throw away the key

[The Nexus]

30. So Poppy Bush is a greater evil than Raygun? nt

[Ter]

31. 1,000 times worse

He supports One World Government and one of the heads of the Shadow Government. Reagan may have been wrong, but he believed what he was doing was right and moral. He was a true believer. Bush is a Hitler.

[Rage for Order]

22. Think that doctor would let Hinckley sleep in the spare bedroom at his house?

You know, since he's convinced that Hinckley "...poses no imminent risk of danger to himself or others." Maybe the state or federal gov't could pay the good doctor some Section 8 funds to assist in covering Mr. Hinckley's expenses. Come on doc, how about it? Put your money where your mouth is.

[sofa king]

29. I guess he'll be the guest of honor in Kennebunkport soon.