New ChamberLeaks Presentation Emerges, Details More Plans To Sabotage Liberals

[kpete]

Source: Think Progress

New ChamberLeaks Presentation Emerges, Details More Plans To Sabotage Liberals
In February, ThinkProgress broke a story revealing that attorneys for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce had communicated with a set of military contractors — HBGary Federal, Palantir, and Berico Technologies — to develop tactics for sabotaging and spying on the Chamber’s progressive critics. The Chamber attorneys and the security firms discussed targeting ChamberWatch, the SEIU, MoveOn, ThinkProgress, and other groups. The proposals details efforts to steal private computer information, spy on the families of the Chamber’s critics, and plant false documents within organizations opposed to the Chamber’s agenda.

ThinkProgress has uncovered yet another presentation from one of the private security firms describing plans for the Chamber. Because of a technical glitch, a few emails of the 75,000 emails leaked to the public from one of the defense firms did not process. One of the emails now processed correctly reveals yet another proposal, created by HBGary Federal executive Aaron Barr, and forwarded to the other security firms. Although it appears not to have been completed, the last slide in the presentation lists tactics — labeled “Discredit, Confuse, Shame, Combat, Infiltrate, Fracture” — to “mitigate effect of adversarial groups while seeking litigation.” View a selection of the slides below:



Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/2011/04/11/chamberleaks-more-plans/

[xchrom]

1. recommend

[Historic NY]

The enemy among us.

[yurbud]

68. I think they overestimate the effect they can have through social media--look at the effects of PR

shills here.

They only succeed in driving people to other sites at best and probably change zero minds.

[cliffordu]

2. K&R.

[The Backlash Cometh]

3. It's just going to the next level.

Discredit
Confuse
Shame
Combat
Infiltrate
Fracture

Jesus. I think I've experienced all of those. Those are good ole boy tactics. Small town politics commonly applied to local community activists to put them in their place. Doesn't even have to be an activist. Just someone who catches on to their crookedness.

[Maraya1969]

10. Most of these can be combated right back with a good look of "What the fuck is the matter with you?

[The Backlash Cometh]

14. No. It really can't.

[freshwest]

15. It hasn't worked on most websites. They keep coming because it's paying them well. It's the ...

Corruption of freedom of speech by commercial speech, in every venue of our lives. We're drowning in an ocean of conservative lies.

Since they're also taking foreign monies in, they have unlimited resources to brainwash Americans so this is far from over.

Your suggestion is a good one. If we ridicule their lies personally, this seed will create greater awareness.

Love your sig.

[russspeakeasy]

50. Yes, it can.

[ooglymoogly]

74. unfortunately those recognitions and call outs get deleted

and there have been many

[The Backlash Cometh]

83. Isn't it true?

I've had some of my most succinct posts removed from other websites and all I did was talk about what goes on behind the curtain.

[Doctor_J]

86. Really? How's that working so far?

wake up & smell the fascism.

[midnight]

57. I hope you wear it like a badge of honor....

[Enthusiast]

79. Badger of honor.

Just sayin'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI

[The Backlash Cometh]

85. I'd rather be the badger than the mushroom.

Thanks for putting it in perspective.

[The Backlash Cometh]

84. Sometimes, that's the only way to look at it.

Though, they can destroy your welfare, reputation and safety. They don't care how much they hurt you, so at some point, you do have to start fighting back.

[BanzaiBonnie]

4. And we've seen that here

I'm keeping track of some of them. Watching until I can confirm, as best as possible, and then alert on them, using the body of evidence I've collected.

[L. Coyote]

5. every day

[freshwest]

11. +1

[Kingofalldems]

6. +1

[a simple pattern]

23. Fifty-centers

paid by the post

[Enthusiast]

28. Me too.

They are here.

[Bragi]

33. Good idea /nt

[malaise]

34. Ding ding

We have a winner

[MissDeeds]

42. Thank you

They are indeed here. I doubt you'll get anywhere if you alert on them...other than perhaps getting TSd. I've had posts deleted for even suggesting they exist.

[arikara]

46. And if you even slightly imply that they are sock puppets

your post gets removed. I just put them on ignore, at least they can't piss me off that way.

[fascisthunter]

51. That's what I do as well

every now and then I check that list of ignored to see if anyone of them gets tossed. You can't argue with assholes being paid to promote an agenda... so ignore them.

[NBachers]

73. That's a great idea. Of 14 ignores I've got, 7 of them are now TS'd

But, until I read your comment, it never occurred to me that I could click on them and check their status. Off, off into the dark night, you swine!

[harun]

59. Damn right you see it here. I hope they tombstone away on them.

[ooglymoogly]

75. That of course is the smart way but it is time consuming.

[AlbertCat]

7. No Class Warfare Here! Move along... nothing to see...

[Blue Meany]

8. Isn't that what they have done with Democratic Party? n/t

[freshwest]

12. Yup.

[blm]

21. Yes, and remember RW operatives infiltrated to divide Vietnam Vets by pushing for violence?

They have been employing these tactics for many decades.

[Enthusiast]

29. It also makes one wonder about certain

'high profile' anti-Vietnam War activists.

[blm]

43. Best to remember the TIMING involved: the plan was put into place TARGETING Kerry and his friends

and that was plain....especially if you heard the Nixon tapes. FBI documents also revealed that Kerry was trailed for some time and his group of vets was, indeed, their target.

[Kip Humphrey]

63. The FBI was all over the SDS before Kerry. 'Course they were easy to spot back then.

[blm]

87. Yep. Powerful men working against college students. Then targeting returning vets. Shameful.

.

[davidwparker]

66. No. No backbone has done it. The party opens itself up

to this because Americans do not like wusses.

[Kelvin Mace]

9. Since this was done with tacit government approval

I have a hard time believing anyone will ever go to jail.

[freshwest]

13. More important, media complicity. They'll do their usual disinfo campaign for the same actors.

[sabrina 1]

45. Dem. Rep. Hank Johnson has requested hearings in Congress

about this. He said this to Congress last month: This scandal cries out for an investigation. I’ll do it by myself if I have to.”

I posted an OP about his efforts here http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x675273

I hope he gets support for this as what they are doing is criminal, it is undermining democracy and should be completely exposed.

[DiverDave]

69. Thanks Sabrina

Sorry I didnt see this on the 1st go round.
Bookmarked for later (It's pretty late now)

Dave

[drm604]

16. Can the targets take legal action?

Can they sue or attempt to press criminal charges?

Might this fall under RICO?

[SpiralHawk]

17. The freaking anti-American Chamber of Commerce is afflicted with...

Republicon Family Cesspool Values.

Ptoooey on their anti-American bullshit (R).

[Name removed]

18. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[barbtries]

19. you know what's really sad

is how many people will learn this fucking outrageous information and yawn. all's fair in love and war, y'know.

[goobergoober01]

20. isn't that what we hear with OBAMA... where he has done considerable good--->

and some of his actions are against progressive, but clearly center or left-of-center...

even on this site...

where there is a "i'm not going to vote in 2012.... and you should join me in not voting...." attitude

I DISAGREE.... I AM GOING TO VOTE.... AND WHEN IT COMES TO OBAMA I MAY EVEN HAVE TO SHUT MY EYES AND HOLD MY NOSE BUT I WILL VOTE FOR HIM

[FiveGoodMen]

35. "I MAY EVEN HAVE TO SHUT MY EYES AND HOLD MY NOSE BUT I WILL VOTE FOR HIM"

Then he has absolutely no reason to care what you want.

Absolutely no reason not to screw you over.

You'll support him anyway.

He has your promise.

[Shining Jack]

22. k&r

Fuck the puppet.

[leveymg]

24. Can we have a separate forum for paid disruptors? They can have subsections for the CoC,

nuclear power promoters (radiation is good for you), BP eco-experts (just a little beach cleanup needed), and an all-purpose visitor's cave for all the assorted Freepers, Teabaggers, Ayn Rand worshippers, and unclassifiable Right-wing weirdos.

It would make studying them a little bit easier and safer. Don't stick your fingers through the bars!

[Enthusiast]

30. Include the Ron Paul supporters.

There is a bunch of them on here.

[leveymg]

31. i.e., Ayn Rand worshippers.

[drokhole]

40. I like to refer to them as Randroids.

[JDPriestly]

36. How can they stand us?

They are so closed minded. I wonder how they manage to stay Rand Paul supporters after spending time on DU.

[leveymg]

38. They perceive many of the same problems of the corporate state but have a different set of solutions

The Rand Paulists see capitalism as having been corrupted, rather than as the source of corruption of social life, as do many of us here. The Austrian School has some interesting insights into state support for corporations, as do neo-Marxists. There is much to talk about, but more to disagree over, I'm afraid.

[No Elephants]

88. libertarians are Republicans who are against defense spending..

[999998th word]

76. Paid to play+bonus for flame wars.CoC= deeeep pockets.

[border_town]

25. so does this mean

they tried to inset themselves in groups such as Moveon and The Velvet Revolution? Both of which I receive emails from.

[madrchsod]

26. do they really think we are that fucking stupid to fall for this?

the chamber are the ones that are really fucking stupid to think it will work.

[Enthusiast]

27. We now have fascism.

When this takes place the nation has taken that final step into fascism.

[harun]

58. This has been going on for some time. They went full on Fascist a few years back.

We are just getting some of the crumbs in terms of tactics now.

[fascisthunter]

32. Yeah, We Have Noticed

many so-called moderates telling us to embrace corporate interests and that socialism is bad, bad, bad....

[myrna minx]

37. K&R n/t

[BEZERKO]

39. Why am I surprised?

No really, why am I surprised? I shouldn't be.

[BEZERKO]

41. Nice job by my man Hank Johnson,

I wish he was my congressman, either him or John Lewis.

[felix_numinous]

44. This is war language.

Meanwhile the left are told to play nice.

We have to stop listening to anyone telling us to: wait, settle down, complaining will ruin our chances at the polls, ect. These are the messages that are meant to derail us!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

47. CALLING ERIC HOLDER>>>>YO Mr. AG are these not criminal acts by CoC?!?

[cstanleytech]

48. Cant say that I am surprised as the Chamber

has shown before that it cannot be trusted.

[emlev]

49. I'm neither confused nor ashamed, but somewhat honored to be named.

Still, I wish it weren't happening.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

52. Aka: NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX et. al.

[nichomachus]

53. The average American

The average American has more to fear from the US Chamber of Commerce than from Al Qaida.

[Little Star]

60. Truer words have never been spoken!

[999998th word]

77. Sad part is they cant sort it out.Kept too busy with well orchestrated distractions.

Also numb trying to keep up with the basics.They are scared and still trust the government to do the right thing.It becomes very difficult to explain whats going on when corporate whore media doesnt
cover this.Those are the people we need to reach and unfortunately they dont frequent sites such as this.

[Blue_Tires]

82. +1000

[rhett o rick]

54. Our corporatist overlords have had all constraints removed by the SCOTUS.

Not that Congress would restrain them. In the upcoming 2012 election, prepare for the bloodiest election in modern US history.

We have entered the endgame of our democracy. People are going to have to fight to retain our freedoms.

Most of our Congress-critters belong to the Wealthy Class and in the upcoming war will not represent the Lower Classes.

[Hotler]

55. kicking n/t

[Bill USA]

56. email this to every Corporate media entity. Recommended!!

[MadMaddie]

61. This proves one thing the Chamber of Commerce feels insecure

they can't win on the issues so they (as most Republicans do) they have to cheat.

This is what we are dealing with...they are not too far away from them promoting violence.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

62. "Whats good for the goose is good for the gander."

The class war is coming and I'm fired up, how about you? Don't make light of this.

[Weird Liberal Head]

64. Wow...

Well well, this explains a lot.

[cyberpj]

65. Aaron Barr? Really? The traitor connection is just too good to be true. nt

[defendandprotect]

67. Well, you can see what worries the elite and their thugs -- US!!

And any challenge to them!!

[upi402]

70. They're HEEEERE!

Yeah, the Business Roundtable was caught flat-footed after Nixon and got busy with the propaganda and agitprop. Reagan was the fruit.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

71. Why doesn't The Chamber just change their name to SPECTRE and be done with it.

[Paradoxical]

72. How is this not front page news?

[JosefK]

78. US Chamber = World's biggest terrorist organization

Seriously. More of a threat to democracy than Al Qaeda ever will be.

[dotymed]

80. Many couch potato, tee vee viewers

believe every damned thing on tee vee.
I hate commercial tee vee but if we have the funds, it would,IMO, help to combat these treasonous bastards.
A revolution is the only way to get rid of them.
Todays America is like a snapshot of the USSR just before their fall, our country has been ruined and it is still happening, the wealthy are (I believe) knowingly destroying what was once the Greatest nation on Earth. I wonder if that makes them feel warm and fuzzy or is just a continuation of their hate filled lives?

[TatonkaJames]

81. Sounds like some book I read a long time ago

Something to do with pigs.

[BEZERKO]

89. Tom Hartman was just talking about this.