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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 08:21 PM
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GOP Sen. Rand Paul to vote against budget deal
Source: usa today

Sen. Rand Paul, a freshman Republican and Tea Party favorite, says he'll vote this week against the fiscal 2011 budget deal that helped stave off a government shutdown.

The Kentucky senator is circulating a letter today to his fellow members of Congress, blasting the deal that would cut $38.5 billion for the next six months as too timid and not going far enough to reduce federal spending.


Read more: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/04/rand-paul-budget-deal-government-shutdown-/1



FOLLOW THE MONEY !!!

Of course he will vote against

Who was it that bankrolled the teapotty?

In my opinion:

It was the corporatist crypto-fasicsts that don't want
to pay any taxes so 98% can suffer for the benefit of
them lining their pockets
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 08:28 PM
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1. Color me shocked
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 08:37 PM
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2. Well he is right it doesnt go far enough really
because we are still spending hundreds of billions more on our defense spending than china and russia combined are.
I say we all write Ron a letter telling him we support his continued efforts to cut the defense spending down to a more reasonable total of no more than 200 billion which is only 50 - 70 billion more than china and russia combined are spending.
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 08:50 PM
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3. Sounds trollish, imho. What about taxing the Top Two Percenters
that got into this debt recession?
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 08:56 PM
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4. I'd prefer they cut war spending first, then if they have to raise taxes, fine.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 11:45 PM
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9. Its not just war spending its our defense spending
in general that we have at an unsustainable rate though the republicans largely refuse to acknowledge the problem because they are afraid imo of their critics using real defense cuts against them as they have wielded it themselves in the past.
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grilled onions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:25 AM
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14. The Pentagon Could Use A Lot Of Slashing
Also look what they spent and continue to spend on those new embassies in oil country!
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 11:40 PM
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8. I've been for that for awhile but I dont think Ron would support that
for some odd reason, worth a shot though.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 10:29 PM
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5. You Know That Rand Paul Is Proposing Even More Severe Cuts to Medicare and Medicaid...
...than Paul Ryan? Also, Rand Paul is hardly making cutting defense spending the central plank of his efforts to court the Tea Party, who are generally pro-defense spending.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 11:49 PM
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11. Yup but imo this (the defense spending) is a perfect weapon
to use against them right now to blunt such an attack against medicare and medicaid seeing as how much higher our total defense spending is compared to that of china and russia combined.
This would let us expose them for what they truly are even more and would hopefully have a large negative impact on them with the independent voters in the coming election if used properly.
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 04:13 AM
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13. Jon Stewart talked to him and mentioned 500 billion
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:46 AM
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15. Well I have not watched the video
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 11:46 AM by cstanleytech
yet (just got time to grab a quick bite to eat for lunch but I'll try later) but if he is proposing that defense spending be cut by 500 billion thats fine, if however he is proposing we cut it to 500 billion total then he is a fraud as far as it comes to claiming to want real spending cuts for the government because thats still (if I recall the numbers correctly) roughly 350 billion more than China and Russia combined are spending for their yearly defense budgets.
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:31 PM
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16. The military is holding this system together, I wonder how long it will survive
H: Well the United States has always imagined that the end game would simply be a return to the past when its diplomats could unilaterally tell the rest of the world what to do. But now we’re seeing the beginning of a new game. And it will not be dictated here, because other countries are more willing to risk an international financial breakdown rather than keep on accepting dollars that the U.S. Treasury has no way of paying, given America’s structural trade deficit, military deficit and capital flight.

So in order to save the U.S. banks from their bad loans, to save them from being prosecuted for fraud, to pay out all the winners on the gambles against A.I.G. and other derivatives traders, Mr. Geithner, Mr. Obama and the rest of this crew are willing to “bet the store” and hope that other countries won’t stop the Treasury-bill standard that has given the U.S. economy so great a free ride ever since it went off gold back in 1971. They’re gambling and losing the pro-U.S. position, and have dissipated all the inertia and good will that enabled U.S. nationalists to say that U.S. consumers and military spending were “the engine of world growth” rather than a free ride.

This intransigent pro-financial attitude is forcing other countries to establish a new financial system – one in which the U.S. dollar – and the U.S. balance-of-payments deficit – will be constrained.

Who could have imagined a century ago that finance would end up destroying the industrial economy and untracking the seemingly inexorable rise living standards? Yet this is what has happened. Politicians and financial managers have been brainwashed. The current managers need to be replaced. The problem is, where are you going to get new people with non-neoliberal views? That’s the way economic students are being taught today.

http://michael-hudson.com/2010/11/dollar-war-in-detail/
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 10:43 PM
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6. "teapotty" LOL!
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 11:46 PM
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10. Yes, that was very good!
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 11:30 PM
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7. Dr No Jr.
He's a burr in the saddle of mainstream Republicanism.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 11:51 PM
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12. Ayn Rand is cheering their eliminating the 'parasites' from her pit in hell, if there is one.
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