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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:57 PM Original message |
In Letter, House Dems Tell Obama To Leave Social Security Alone (or risk losing their support) |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. IF he wants to 'FIX' Social Security he should raise the income limit and increase the COLA |
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corpseratemedia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. +1 |
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aggiesal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. He should also lower the retirement age ... |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
46. You know, that's a strategy that the Repubs use effectively. |
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aggiesal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. Does sound like a plan |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
66. Wouldn't that be a nice change to actually have a strategy. |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. like the repukes do |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #73 |
167. And be in 'lock step'. |
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SusanaMontana41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:33 PM Response to Reply #73 |
217. Identical to the repukes, I'd say. n/t |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:05 AM Response to Reply #66 |
166. True enough. |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #66 |
187. A strategy ? That's like a plan, right? |
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U of M Dem (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #46 |
83. I believe door-in-the-face technique... |
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SomeGuyInEagan (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #83 |
192. Ha! You wrote "Republican ethics" and I did a spit take. Thanks, needed the laugh. |
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stillwaiting (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 06:20 AM Response to Reply #46 |
137. The Dems are not that stupid. They don't fall for anything. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #137 |
215. I so agree. |
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PatSeg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #46 |
179. That's a great idea |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
89. Many people of "retirement age", however, can't afford to retire. nt |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
157. Not only that, but it would reduce the plans obligations to the retirees. |
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aggiesal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #157 |
234. Wouldn't it be nice if ... |
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Athena66 (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 07:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. Right on! |
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jaysunb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
98. I like it ! |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 06:50 AM Response to Reply #28 |
139. You keep talking sense and you will be thrown out of the party. |
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Athena66 (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #139 |
158. It seems that the party |
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SomeGuyInEagan (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #158 |
196. I've stayed in bascially the same spot, philospically, for 30 years. I *was* middle-of-the-road... |
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Athena66 (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #196 |
214. I've been |
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SomeGuyInEagan (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 07:51 AM Response to Reply #214 |
229. Where I grew up, at least, I was pretty middle-of-the-road ... |
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Athena66 (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #229 |
232. It seems like |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #28 |
159. That would get my vote. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #28 |
178. I want to vote for you! |
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Athena66 (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #178 |
228. Oh, sweetie, thank you, but |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #228 |
233. Oh ,I didn't think you were actually running |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
226. How logical AND compassionate. |
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aggiesal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
235. Whoaaaaa, you're going to get a yellow flag ... |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
43. Absolutely! n/t |
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Thumper79 (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
53. That makes too much sense. |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
71. +2 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
101. +1000% -- |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
121. . |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
154. Yes. Increase the cap, which is what he RAN (and won) on!!! n/t |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. "... Bowles-Simpson proposal may serve as a starting point ..." |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
3. A backbone appears to have been found. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
102. Or a pretense of one -- !! |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
151. Original letter (Oct. 2010) and signatures: |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. Obama is not actually 'cutting' funds. See last paragraph below |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. "Any bill I sign must include a public option... " |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. they will spin ANYTHING |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:01 AM Response to Reply #25 |
122. + |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. so you blame Obama.... |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. One more time, Obama said any bill he signed "MUST have a public option" |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
76. i will take your word on that.... |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Health insurance does not equal health care |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:17 PM Response to Reply #82 |
94. I don't need to hear that.... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:46 AM Response to Reply #94 |
129. The reason most people don't realize how great HCR is-- |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #94 |
203. The annual caps aren't gone yet |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:00 AM Response to Reply #76 |
140. Will video work for you? |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:18 AM Response to Reply #76 |
141. Here's a quote for those who lack memory and a video link |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
62. Yet, oddly, Bush got anything he wanted, including an elective war in Iraq. nt |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:28 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. right.... |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. Has Obama done anything wrong? |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:16 PM Response to Reply #81 |
93. Never! |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #81 |
95. yes.... |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:29 AM Response to Reply #95 |
146. The buck stops at that desk, no matter who sits at it |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 06:13 AM Response to Reply #72 |
136. Exactly |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #62 |
176. So SS and Medicare are already gone? |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #62 |
237. Little Boots got everything because |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
103. Obama is to blame for his backroom deals with Big Pharma and private h/c industry -- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:51 PM Response to Reply #103 |
110. Few more details on Obama's back room deals with Big Pharma -- |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:42 AM Response to Reply #36 |
115. We blame him for conning you into beliving that he ever wanted po in the first place. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
194. Obama never fought for the public option with Congress or with the public . |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #10 |
175. What has that got to do with it? |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Obama also said these things: |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. You omitted all things that Obama DID do regarding the issues you posted. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Because he didn't. |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
63. "There are so many holes in your list" . . . translation, "you're right, but I refuse to |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. good selection. needs to be a thread in itself. |
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Iwasthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. NOT! |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
50. yep, it certainly does |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
64. I DID start a thread like that. Wow, did I get hammered. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #64 |
105. Yes, those here with "hammers" get an early start and try to kill threads they don't like!! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
202. If that happens, you should Alert. |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #202 |
222. Yup, did that. And then the thread got locked, heigh ho. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
104. And it should be a thread posted regularly to remind DU -- !! |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Thanks. |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
80. Damn good list. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. If all he is going to do is raise the FICA cap, that would be great. However-- |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. It might not hurt to wait until tomorrow and give Obama a chance to speak first.... |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Indeed, let's not jump to conclusions |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
37. jumping to conclusions here at DU? |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
61. it would appear that congress has jumped to some conclusions as well.. |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:28 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. I agree.... |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. you add nothing to the dialog.. |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #74 |
97. and you just add so much.... |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
78. I say give the president a platform to stand on, right here and now--#1: stand up to the oligarchy |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
106. We've been waiting 2 1/2 years -- Obviously Campaign-Obama was kidnapped ... !!! |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. Alan Colmes? As in Hannity's former side kick? |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:33 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. yep, FauxNews' token liberal |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
117. And he also "said" |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
184. That's what he ran on , but he already extended those tax breaks. Believe it when I see it. |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
5. Didn't the House say they wouldn't support extending the tax breaks for millionaires? |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. The one thing you gotta admire about Republican Presidents - |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Obama and the pukes cater to the same base. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:50 AM Response to Reply #23 |
118. Yep, the Haves and the Have Mores... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
205. Poppy Bush said "No new taxes," but failed to veto a new tax bill. Pubs stayed home in droves. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. good. what's wrong with the rest of congressional dems, who didn't sign this? |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Possibility exists that they are only loyal to the |
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Citizen Worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 07:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. The DLC is very interested in Social Security. Like the republicons the DLC wants to eliminate |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
49. no, no |
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Citizen Worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
90. Enronized. I like that and it made me think of Madoffed. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
108. Democratic Party's DLC was funded by the Rightwing Koch Bros -- |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
219. That's what I was meaning, but |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
96. I thought the DLC was disbanding or something -- where did I get that idea? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:50 PM Response to Reply #96 |
109. DLC was harbored within the Democratic Party for decades -- Funded by Koch Bros -- |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #109 |
199. Although I knew the DLC is essentially Republican Democrats, I didn't know |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:51 AM Response to Reply #96 |
131. They did. You go home after you win the game. n/t |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #131 |
200. Well, there's always a possibility we can win it back. Hope/delusion springs eternal! nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #131 |
207. And -- DLC/Rahm off to Chicago to seek his new fortunes -- !! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #131 |
213. No, not yet. Please see Reply 206. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #96 |
206. The DLC has completed take over of the Democratic Party and |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #206 |
208. Thank you/agree -- "DLC completed its take over of the Dem Party" -- !! |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
216. That's 50 Dems targeted for defeat next year? |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Buy a vowel |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
147. The New Dems like to blame things on the Blue Dogs... |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #147 |
173. hmm |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #147 |
218. +1 |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
9. At least that's some good news! - n/t |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
15. K&R n/t |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
20. K&R |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
26. How about one of these people getting off their asses and primarying Obama??? |
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Liberalynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I agree |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
209. Should be a Dem challenger -- but not anyone inside the DLC/Dem Party -- !! |
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daa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
27. SCRAP THE CAP!!! eom |
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walerosco (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
31. K & R |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
33. K&R n/t |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
34. Hands off Medicare, too. n/t |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
35. Obama believes that the progressives have nowhere else to go so I doubt if he will take this |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
38. How telling they need to even write such a letter. n/t |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. exactly.. |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Well it's sad there is such a lack of confidence but you'd be very foolish |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
204. Sorry, I don't follow.. ? |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #204 |
227. What I meant was, there is room for concern based on his past decisions, as |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 05:10 PM Response to Reply #227 |
236. Ah.. I gotcha.. I just listened to parts of his speech again.. I *feel* a little better |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #41 |
160. The fact that the Obama administration does not refute these "allegations" speaks volumes. /nt |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
100. I was thinking the same thing -- when your "people" don't have confidence |
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Michigan-Arizona (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
39. Huge K&R n/t |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
42. I've been really disappointed with Conyers since Obama's election.. but praise to him for this |
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Stargleamer (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
45. Dems having to tell a Dem President to leave Social Security. . . |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Never thought I would see the day. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:13 AM Response to Reply #45 |
169. Best response in this thread, |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #45 |
183. . |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
48. Good. K&R. |
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walerosco (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
55. medicare too |
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Kashka-Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
56. COULD SOMEONE PLS explain to me the 2% FICA tax cut and how this fits in cos |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. You already know the answer - it was done to weaken Social Security |
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Kashka-Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
88. Did it come from Obama then - when I first read "the shock doctrine" I wasnt quite sure what |
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freshwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #56 |
85. Bernie Sanders explained the effects in detail. It was brought by the same people who hate Soc. Sec. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #56 |
119. Yep, you nailed it... |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #56 |
170. Here's an excellent summary by bvar22: |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
57. throw in.... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #57 |
220. +1 |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
58. OH NO's!!!! Not another nasty note from the House Democrats. |
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MJJP21 (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
60. Does anyone |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
65. How many people signed the letter? I just saw two signatures - but - hey - 2 is better than none on |
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Monique1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Again I say |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:53 AM Response to Reply #68 |
120. And what part of the FICA cut did you miss? |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #68 |
182. isn't that what people were saying during the healthcare debate? |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:53 AM Response to Reply #65 |
150. They are, of course, referring to the letter of Oct 12, 2010, signed by 136 HOUSE MEMBERS.... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #65 |
221. OP says 137 Reps signed it. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
67. Somebody didn't their pooooney. |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 05:54 AM Response to Reply #67 |
134. Try that in English. nt. |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
70. I was called last night to give $ to DFA for O's re-election. My response: |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
75. ZOMG. THAT is what spine looks and acts like. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
77. He will lose a lot more then the houses support, he will lose in 2012 /nt |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. you've got that right---don't take us former supporters for granted |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:01 AM Response to Reply #77 |
113. True -- so why would any Democratic president do something like that -- ? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
84. Let's hope they also send a letter opposing any cuts in Medicare and Medicaid. |
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ProfessionalLeftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
86. +1 |
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colsohlibgal (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
87. Stick ToYour Guns Reps! |
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Mosaic (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
91. He's always been lukewarm to me |
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plumbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
92. Yep, the only change I will accept is a change in the cap. |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
99. K&R |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
107. K & R |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
111. dupe -- |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:55 AM Response to Reply #111 |
132. No, I don't want it--but the problem is that Sanders isn't going to do it |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #132 |
212. Who knows what Sanders would do if we were organized? Meanwhile, you |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
112. Now we're waiting for these Democrats to save Social Security --!!! Whaaat???? |
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Shiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
114. Just read the President's budget. |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:38 AM Response to Reply #114 |
148. Ah, reading. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #114 |
223. First, no one on this thread is talking about privatization and what |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
116. Thank God. We're better off fighting without him. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
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farmboxer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
124. What about medicare? Can't over look that! |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
125. That is a start, but you have got to learn to be assertive and not take anything less than what will |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
126. Deleted message |
Kall (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:06 AM Response to Original message |
127. Sterny Worded Letters... |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:29 AM Response to Original message |
128. Obama is a politician.. politicians are known to be LIARS. period. |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:46 AM Response to Original message |
130. I always thought Social Security was its own fund |
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avebury (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 05:40 AM Response to Original message |
133. If Obama is going to assist the Republicans |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 06:00 AM Response to Original message |
135. K&R |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 06:41 AM Response to Original message |
138. The SS fix is so simple - raise the cap. Why is it such a big deal? |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:53 AM Response to Reply #138 |
149. obviously, b/c Dems including O got big campaign $$ from the corporatists |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #149 |
190. Deleted message |
JJW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
142. To fix anything |
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cullen7282 (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
143. Social Security isn't just retirement |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:21 AM Response to Original message |
144. 100% correct |
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Search4Justice (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
145. I'd suggest he listen for a change. n/t |
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BEZERKO (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
152. Memo to the Cat Food Commission |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
153. Define "surplus" |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
155. Glaring omission: No mention of "Medicare". |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #155 |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
156. They had BETTER tell him the same about Medicaid and Medicare |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
161. Paying the rich checks and giving them Medicare is one of those things I go ugg to. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #161 |
163. I'm against means testing for either Social Security or Medicare because |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #163 |
172. Thank you I did not know it was called means testing |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #163 |
181. Then, are you saying it is NOT an insurance program? |
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Change Happens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
162. ENOUGH SAID! Get your people together and insist on voting for things you |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #162 |
165. That is if our votes are really counting and not being manipulated as |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #165 |
210. Government by gangsterism -- and voting on GOP controlled computers -- !! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
164. On C-Span's Washington Journal |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #164 |
211. Is she "stupid" ... or is it something else ... ? |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #211 |
225. I know. |
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fredamae (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
168. Well, is today the day that determines |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #168 |
238. impeached? |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
171. hmmm |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
174. They are touting Medicare and Medicaid on TV constantly as |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
177. TAX THE FUCKING RICH! |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
180. I was just listening to MSNBC and a Republican talk about |
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FreeStateDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
185. A glimmer of hope! |
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Blue Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
186. Listen to your party, Mr. President |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #186 |
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LongTomH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
188. Is there a list of Progressive Dems who signed this letter? |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
197. I wonder how seriously he'll take this threat. I also wonder if he wanted their support in the first |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
198. This is NOT the military over-blown tax wasting-People paid into SS every week for 30-40-50 YEARS! |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
201. Another strongly worded letter. Oh goodie. |
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kelly1mm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
224. Isn't this mostly the same group who vowed not to support health care |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
230. K&R nt |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
231. No mention in the letter of Medicare and Medicaid? |
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