(Calif.) Assembly committee approves 'open carry' ban, rifle records bill

[Newsjock]

Source: Sacramento Bee

The Assembly Public Safety Committee approved on party lines today two controversial gun bills that failed last session, including legislation targeting the "Open Carry" protest movement.

Assembly Bill 144, by Assemblyman Anthony Portantino, D-La Cañada Flintridge, would make it a crime to openly carry an unloaded handgun in public. The bill language contains a number of exceptions, including exemptions for peace officers, military gatherings, gun shows and hunting.

... Portantino said the practice of open carry has "created an increase in problematic instances," alarming and frightening passersby and needlessly draining law enforcement resources when officers are called to respond to reports of armed people.

... The Democratic-controlled committee also approved Assembly Bill 809, a revival of a previous effort to require that gun retailers report the same records of sales for long guns that they currently collect for handguns. Democratic Assemblyman Mike Feuer, who authored the bill, said the legislation would standardize reporting procedures and aide law enforcement. Opponents said the change would create an undue burden for gun owners and retailers.

Read more: http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2011/04/assembly-committee-approves-op.html

[krispos42]

1. In other words, no right to bear arms in California.

And de facto gun registration.




Well, I'm sure that this will save far more lives and money than legalizing pot.

[SoCalNative]

3. Good

eom

[Ter]

4. If you hate the 2nd Amendment, either work to repeal it...

...Or move. For now, it's a part of the Constitution where YOU live.

[HankyDubs]

7. OMG THE SKY IS FALLING

I didn't see that part of the 2nd amendment that guarantees "open carry" of handguns.

[bahrbearian]

11. Its the part where it says

to bare arms , for intimidation and provocation.

[instantkarma]

13. Last time I looked

short-sleeve shirts and tank-tops are still legal.

[krispos42]

15. So this is better than legalizing pot?

You'd rather have open carry illegal than pot legal?

[krabigirl]

19. Many people would like to pretty much criminalize everything.

[BuddhaGirl]

17. +1

from this CA resident :thumbsup:

[defendandprotect]

14. In other word, sanity in California -- !! Guns/violence is the way the rw rises -- !!

[krispos42]

16. Un-huh. n/t

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[Devil_Fish]

5. So How would a gun owner take their fire arm to the range? or to go Hunting?

I do not own any guns, but I have in the past. It seems to me that this law would basically make it impossible to even own a gun. Legally you can't conceal it, and now you can't openly carry it. What is a gun owner supposed to do? sit in his bedroom and stroke it? If some one buys a gun, how is he supposed to get it home?

I guess perhaps I am a gun-nut. Even though I don't own one, I want my constitutional right to own one if I choose, and to take it to the range with out breaking this absurd law.

[safeinOhio]

6. No open carry while

in a case.

[Devil_Fish]

8. in a case, it could be considered concealed no?

There is the answer! every one walk around with gun cases! that way no one will know who is carrying! no one will rob any one.

[safeinOhio]

10. Good idea.

Here is California's current law.

HANDGUNS

California Penal Code section 12025 does not prevent a citizen of the United States over 18 years of age who is not lawfully prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, from transporting by motor vehicle any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person provided the firearm is unloaded and stored in a locked container.

The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.

SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES

Nonconcealable firearms (rifles and shotguns) are not generally covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 12025 and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container. However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded while they are being transported. A rifle or shotgun that is defined as an assault weapon pursuant to Penal Code 12276 or 12276.1 must be transported in accordance with Penal Code section 12026.1.

REGISTERED ASSAULT WEAPONS

California Penal Code section 12285(c)(7) requires that registered assault weapons may be transported only between specified locations and must be unloaded and in a locked container when transported.

The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.

[HankyDubs]

12. you might have a good idea here

"What is a gun owner supposed to do? sit in his bedroom and stroke it?"

[krabigirl]

20. I agree..not a gun owner, but if you can't carry it concealed or open, are they just plain banned?

Outside of the home, I mean. Scary, I know manynwill disagree but whatever.

[DesertDiamond]

9. One more reason to be glad I live in California

[truebrit71]

18. Great news!!

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