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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 03:18 AM
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Republican budget includes overhaul of food stamps
Source: Associated Press

Republican budget includes overhaul of food stamps
(AP) – 1 hour ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — House Republicans resurrected a 1990s-era fight over food stamps in their budget approved last week, arguing that any serious attempt to cut spending must include an overhaul of government programs that help needy families pay for food.

Congress already has started cutting some food programs, including reducing the Women, Infants and Children Program by $500 million as part of a deal on this year's budget. And last year, more than $2 billion in future funding for food stamps was redirected to other programs.

On Friday, the House approved a Republican proposal to overhaul the $65 billion food stamp program — known officially as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP — by replacing it with capped block grants to states, which would pay for the aid but make it contingent on work or job training. That proposal was included in a 2012 budget plan put forward by Budget Committee Chairman Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis.

His plan lays out a fiscal vision for cutting $6.2 trillion from yearly federal deficits over the coming decade and has drawn widespread attention for its call for transforming Medicare into a voucher-like system that subsidizes purchases of private health insurance. It is likely to meet strong opposition is the Senate, where Democrats still have a majority.



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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 03:20 AM
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1. Jesus, between food and health insurance, don't they realize that lives are on the line
Over this?! :grr:
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appleannie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 03:29 AM
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3. They don't care. It is only lower class people in their eyes.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 03:48 AM
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7. I know people who have been on food stamps.
They needed the help to survive. Anyone who can't comprehend that is truly out of touch and should not be representing anyone. ;( :grr:
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 09:30 PM
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35. I lived in Utah , a "right to work state."
Edited on Tue Apr-19-11 09:30 PM by newspeak
I remember a Salt Lake Tribune article that stated that there were quite a number of state employees on food stamps to make ends meet. There are people whose wages have been dramatically cut that are on food stamps to survive. Many who were once middle class are becoming the working poor.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:40 AM
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37. I agree with you, and I'm not surprised.
We have the same problem in NY. I've known working people who have qualified for food stamps and those with low paying jobs who are now making too much. Jobs are at a premium now, so folks are willing to take anything that they can get. It's a desperate situation and I just cannot imagine it getting even worse. :(
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:52 PM
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23. The lower class are NOT people in their eyes.
Republicans don't see the poor as human beings. And no, I'm not exaggerating. Because of I am a white male with a certain "look", hard core repigs often assume I am one of them. I hear the nastiest possible things spewing from their hateholes. They don't see the poor as human. Period.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 06:10 AM
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10. that's the idea - to "let nature take its course" on people who can't fend for themselves
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 03:13 AM
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31. Got it. They never considered what 'nature' would have done to them as babies without help.
Bunch of sociopaths.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 05:03 PM
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22. They know that very well.
It is, in fact, an integral part of their strategy.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 06:10 PM
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24. Yes, they know lives are on the line, but continued/additional tax cuts for the uber-wealthy are a
much greater concern and priority. Yes, this has a pub-inspired depravity ingrained throughout and it's laid out there for all to see. :patriot:
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 03:27 AM
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2. GOP moto: "Let no good guv'ment program go unpunished" ~nt
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 03:31 AM
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4. I'm receiving food aid because I can't find a job and I'm a 99er (unemployment ran out)
Edited on Mon Apr-18-11 03:42 AM by CottonBear
with a 2 year child and a mortgage. There is no money for child care assistance available in my state, so even if I get a minimum wage job, I still will not be able to afford childcare and make enough to pay my bills Oh yeah, my state ran out of LIHEAP (heating and cooling assitance) funding almost immediately last fall/winter season.

edit: I don't have health insurance (anymore) either and I still owe state and federal taxes! I never thought I'd end up in this situation. I was laid off from my professional job after 16 years with the same firm due to lack of work caused by the recession. Did I mention that our state electric utility monopoly got permission from the state PSC to raise our rates about $15 a month and that gas and food prices have risen sharply?

These are cruel proposals which will harm and not help innocent children and their families.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 09:37 AM
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18. I hope things turn around for you very soon CottonBear.
My husband was unemployed for 6 months last year, and I know all about the stress you are experiencing. And boy do I hear you on those food and gas prices. I can barely afford to get to my measly part-time job, and what I make is a joke.

It seems there are few in Washington anymore who care what happens to the ordinary person. The Dems should be shouting from the rooftops about all of the R's draconian proposals. I don't think the average American who votes for these idiots has a clue of what they are about because they aren't called out loud and often. They should have been publicly shamed for the proposal to destroy Medicare and give the elderly vouchers to help "buy" private insurance. The brainiacs behind that one should be tarred and feathered. Instead seniors will keep returning them to Congress. Voting against one's own self-interest has, unfortunately, become a national pastime.
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DesertDiamond Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 03:34 AM
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5. It appears that they are quite literally aiming to kill us off.
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999998th word Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 03:41 AM
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6. The embodiment of smug.Bastards.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 07:32 AM
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13. Yet, I truly believe food stamps are all that's keeping THEM alive.
Well. We'll see, I guess.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 03:14 AM
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32. Got it in one. Welcome to DU.
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 04:29 AM
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8. THERE ARE NO JOBS sorry for shouting, n/t
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humblebum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 06:02 AM
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9. The NO JOBS issue needs to be sounded over and over and over
without ceasing. That is the source of all our problems.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 07:08 AM
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11. They want to require a minimum income of $1,000,000 a year in order to qualify?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 07:08 AM
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12. It's about time the country's quadriplegics were made to get up and work for their food.
Grandma, too. It doesn't matter she's got Alzheimer's. What a bunch of nasty, evil people and you probably will find them in the front pew every Sunday.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 09:57 AM
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19. They want to take away Grandma's Medicare and
force her to buy private insurance. Imagine the premiums for a 90-year-old Alzheimer's patient. Probably would take every last penny of her Social Security check (and then a lot), but they would like to do away with that as well. Idiots all.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 01:21 AM
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30. Exactly...
"What a bunch of nasty, evil people and you probably will find them in the front pew every Sunday."

I have been saying this to my family and friends for years. I see thousands of these people on television and going to church spouting off about how good they are.

When I go about my everyday activities through life,I often wonder where are all of these so called Christians with all of the hate I see daily..
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 08:26 AM
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14. I want to strangle these fuckers!
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 08:35 AM
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15. Obviously, not enough people in America are malnourished or starving.
Fortunately, the GOP is on the job to correct that!

bitterly,
Bright
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bergie321 Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 08:52 AM
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16. If you are unprofitable
To the corporate masters, die quickly.
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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 09:32 AM
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17. SNAP Is Already Contingent On Work Or Job Training
So this has nothing to do with such issues. It is just another attempt to gut the social safety net so the uber wealthy can get another tax cut.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 10:54 AM
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20. The food stamp program should have increased spending, not the other way around.
The program already doesn't pay enough and usually the benefits don't last for the whole month and people are going hungry toward the end of the months because the benefits are too low. This proposal by the GOP will only make things worse. Food banks are already stretched to the limits as well.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 10:55 PM
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29. exactly. in addition, I think the entire stimulus package could just be food stamps
for everyone. Local stores and farms would get business, stimulating local economies. Everyone except the rich would use the food stamps. Food stamps would be a BOON in any poor, working, or middle class home, and the money we saved would getwould get spent immediately on something else we need. I always thought every citizen could receive food stamps. The rich wouldn't use theirs. the rest of us would. a great way to stimulate economies locally. and help everyone.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 01:28 PM
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21. Golly, who could have seen this coming?
:sarcasm:

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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 06:53 PM
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25.  Hello out there you poor suckers
that voted for those Republicans that love you so damn much,I see they are taking real good care of you jerks especially the over weight ones,they plan to starve all that fat off.Fools never learn.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 07:23 PM
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26. Even at it's highest levels, Welfare accounted only for a half of 1% of Federal Budget -- !!
What could it possibly be now after so many cuts -- and such huge increases in

Pentagon spending?
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 07:55 PM
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27. '... contingent on work or job training.' I guess we disabled people are screwed. n/t
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 03:16 AM
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33. Disabled people are not supposed to be disabled. Failing that, they are not supposed to be, period.
Thanks Ayn Rand! The stench of your rotting corpse fills the air.
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999998th word Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 03:24 AM
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36. Hypocrite Rand was OK w-collecting SS and medicare...but
that must have been OK since she did it under an other name.That name was Ann O'Connor,

.Source Evva Pryror -social worker also a consultant with her law firm

Ernst, Cane,Gitlin,and Winnik.Thanks to whoever originally found this.

Yeah Rand was pretty much a :puke:
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-11 10:51 PM
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28. of course!
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 03:05 PM
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34. Real death panels: cuts to food stamps, OASDI, Medicare, Medicaid and fuel subsidies--and BOTH
Edited on Tue Apr-19-11 03:07 PM by No Elephants
Parties are proposing several of these things.
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