Team Prosser: We Will Object To Any Recount

[buddysmellgood]

Source: Talking Points Memo

Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice David Prosser held a press conference at the state Capitol on Monday, in which he declared victory in his reelection race -- and at which his campaign advisers said they would object to any recount that might be requested by Prosser's opponent, Assistant Attorney General JoAnne Kloppenburg.

Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/team-prosser-we-will-object-to-any-recount.php?ref=fpblg

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This is odd. It's like asking for a recount. Why would Prosser say this if they weren't afraid of something?

[Octafish]

1. Prosser was for it until Katherine Harris 2 found 7,000 new votes for him.

Why can't I remember the crooked clerk in Waukesha's name?

[buddysmellgood]

3. Saint Nickolaus: I want to forget her too.

[shanti]

2. and you can bet

that he'd be screaming to bloody hell if it was him wanting the recount! :(

[buddysmellgood]

4. What a stupid position to take. The law says that this race is so

close, that the public will pay for a recount. To argue that a recount shouldn't be considered is just stupid. Once again, he shows his judgement is crap.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

9. You think a justice is interested in the law?

How naive!

/

[Scuba]

14. Nope. Ms. Nickolaus's "found" votes put him just over the threshold for a public recount. JoAnne..

... is on the hook for it.

[Tx4obama]

18. Nope

The Government Accountability Board has released the county canvass results of the state Supreme Court election.

The board says Prosser's current lead in the race is 0.488 percent, which would allow Kloppenburg to request a recount without paying a fee.


http://elections.wispolitics.com/

[Scuba]

21. My bad. Thanks for the correction.

[tblue37]

48. No prob. We could probably raise enough money for it right here on DU,

so I don't doubt that she can raise enough be asking in WI and elsewhere (like here, too).

[robinlynne]

27. no. they stole just enough votes so the public will not pay for a recount.

[drm604]

37. No

The difference is 0.488%. If it's less than half a percent (0.5) she gets a free recount if she requests it. 0.488 is less than 0.5.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

32. Prosser's lawyer also said today any recount request would be "frivolous"

With a .048% (i think) difference?

Also said he’s prepared to object legally if Kloppenburg makes the request.

There have been at least 2 or 3 press statements on this from the Prosser camp today!

Really making themselves look even more suspicious, if possible

[LisaM]

5. This needs to take place simply because of Waukesha

I don't think they want them to go back to 2005 in their records.

[buddysmellgood]

7. They are definitely afraid of something. We must be getting close and only a hand count can prove it

[Bozita]

6. Are they gonna bang on windows and chant loudly?

[eowyn_of_rohan]

33. and send all their aides to "protest" at the election offices?

[Bozita]

46. like this?

[eowyn_of_rohan]

51. that's the one!

ah...memories

[Leftist Agitator]

52. Every single person in that photo should be executed for treason.

[midnight]

8. Very Odd... I say this because, I don't think he get's a say so, does he?

[buddysmellgood]

11. No, I don't think he does. But Kloppenburg has to make a case for a hand count.

I would think the error in Waukesha would be enough to do that. Prosser should want a recount just to erase any cloud over his win.

[murielm99]

13. And she doesn't seem inclined to do so!

I am very disappointed in Kloppenburg. This is about more than just HER. You guys will have ten years of hell if that creep Prosser stays on the court.

[Tx4obama]

20. She has not said anything one way or the other yet.

Kloppenburg for Justice Campaign Manager Melissa Mulliken ... issued the following statement:

"Now that the statewide canvass is complete, our campaign will focus our decision making on whether to request a recount. By statute, we have three business days in which to make that decision. We will review the information available to us and carefully weigh the options. We will make an announcement concerning our decision no later than Wednesday, April 20, 2011."

http://elections.wispolitics.com/

[robinlynne]

30. She will have to pay millions of dollars for a recount. That may be the reason for her doubt.

[Tx4obama]

35. No she will NOT. See comment #18. n/t

[LiberalFighter]

16. I don't believe a case needs to be made.

She can request a recount and since it is within the margin the state pays. If the margin was greater than she would have to pay.

[robinlynne]

31. the margin IS greater. She does have to pay.

[Tx4obama]

36. Wrong. The margin is under .5% therefore there's only a $5 fee per ward.

The taxpayers will pick up the bill for the recount.

[robinlynne]

39. Are you positive? In the first days the info was that they stole exactly enough votes to NOT have

a recount. It would be fantastic if I am wrong. I would love oto be wrong. but why then were the Dems fundraising for a recount? the link to send funds was on Du a while ago.

[Tx4obama]

41. Because

one reason folks were donating money was because when Kloppenburg was ahead Prosser was going to fight in court - so she would have had legal bills to pay.
And after when she was behind then folks thought that maybe she'd have to pay $5 per ward/precinct fee if the margin was too high.
There is still a chance that Kloppenburg will have 'legal bills' because Prosser is threatening to prevent a recount (I don't know how he can do that though).

The Government Accountability Board says Prosser's current lead in the race is 0.488 percent, which would allow Kloppenburg to request a recount without paying a fee.

The margin now is under .5% so she won't have a pay a fee.


Here are the numbers below:

Less than .5% margin there is no fee for the person that requests the recount.
Between one half of 1 percent and 2 percent, the cost to the candidate is $5 per ward.
If the difference is more than 2 percent, the candidate requesting the recount has to pay for all of the costs.

[robinlynne]

44. FIrst I've heard of this. Then of course she will request a recount!

current lead in the race, meaning we have to wait for all the provisional ballots to be counted and the canvas completed?

[Tx4obama]

47. The canvass is finished

GAB: County canvass reports completed for Supreme Court
4/15/2011

MADISON, WI – With the submission of the Milwaukee County canvass report, the Government Accountability Board has received the results of the Supreme Court election as certified by all 72 Wisconsin counties.

The results as certified by each county indicate that David T. Prosser received 752,323 votes and Joanne F. Kloppenburg received 745,007 votes.

Pursuant to law, the Board may not certify the official statewide results at this time. By law the Board may not certify statewide results until either the passage of the deadline for filing a recount or the completion of a recount.

The deadline for filing a recount request is Wednesday, April 20 at 5:00 p.m.

Rest of article here: http://wispolitics.com/index.Iml?Article=233642

[robinlynne]

49. ooh. I like this. This makes a recount very probable. Thank-you!

[Tx4obama]

42. I meant to say on comment #36 above the margin is under 0.5% therefore there's NOT a $5 fee per ward

[Blue Owl]

10. Nothing funny at all about his former employee

who can't seem to count or operate simple spreadsheet software, and who had 20,000 more votes than voters in her precinct a few years ago.

Nothing funny at all.

[sasquuatch55]

12. What are the afraid of? n/t

n/t

[think]

15. Supreme fraud is a more apt description ......

Bunch of vote juggling malarkey......

[Iliyah]

17. Ya'll think

the jerks would welcome it being it would prove without a doubt the jackass won. I hope JoAnn goes for it. What was the numbers anyway?

[moondust]

19. Talk about raising suspicion...

"I will not open the trunk for you, officer, because I have nothing to hide." :eyes:

[mountainlion55]

22. amazing

Voter fraud or?

[buddysmellgood]

40. I doubt it's voters. If there is fraud it's election fraud.

[damntexdem]

23. Move those goal posts.

Object to what is Koppenburg's right in the election law.

Yeah, GOP all over again.

[humbled_opinion]

24. Get used to it....

They Cheat We lose....

[Plucketeer]

25. He can object

Doesn't say much for his IQ , but he can object all he wants! :rofl: Dolt!

[plumbob]

26. Quelle surprise.

But it's a little weird, since he's collecting money for a recount.

http://www.justiceprosser.com/index.php/about-justice-prosser


I noticed he graduated from DePauw. I used to think that was a decent school, but apparently, there are some flaws in the system there.

[bongbong]

28. pigs

Here is the position of repigs on crime: "If you're not guilty, you have nothing to worry about. If you're a repig, you don't have anything to worry about even if you're guilty, since laws are for Democrats."

[robinlynne]

29. That strategy worked out really well for Bush in 2000.....

[iwishiwas]

34. Earlier he said he would say yes to a Waukesha Cty recount.

[robinlynne]

50. DONT do it Judge! Gore did that. Do a FULL STATE RECOUNT.

[drm604]

38. I'm trying to figure out what grounds he thinks he has for preventing it.

His attorney says that there are "a number of legal issues", but refuses to say what the grounds would be for their objection. It sounds like they've got nothing and they're desperately trying to find something.

Prosser is showing quite blatantly that he doesn't give a damn about the rights of the voters of Wisconsin. This man is a Supreme Court Justice!

The law says that a difference of less than half a percent qualifies for a recount and a Supreme Court Justice says that such a recount is "frivolous". So he disagrees with the legislature that passed this law? That's not up to a judge. A judge is supposed to uphold any constitutional law.

[Nossida]

43. I just wonder........

Which Consortium of Christian Ayatollahs and
Corporatist purchased that Election?

Republicanism\Conservatives brought Dictatorship and Tyranny to Rome.
The Ultra Rightwing Union Busting NSDAP brought the Deutsche Arbeitsfront to Germany.
This current Lot will bring Theocracy, with Privatized Police Forces to America.

This entire AntiUnion Campaign is in process of destroying the Unions,
and then Privatizing all Police, Fire Department, and Teachers. Think
of the Utopia in the Cities. If you need a Policeman, if your credit
score is acceptable.......Think on it Americans.

[robinlynne]

45. there is something we ALL need to be aware of. A recount may not be enough.

unless there is a way to KNOW that the ballots counted are the originals. We found out here in Los Angeles, that there is not a lot of accountability for the ballots themselves. It's pretty much based on "trust". that no-one would commit fraud and "we are all honest people working here"....
there is not a foolproof system, unless you have groups of at least 3 people hand counting directly at the precincts, not in a centralized place, then making each result public. that is the only way we can possibly KNOW. without guessing. There are many more election tricks available than just computer counting, although that one makes it so very fast and easy, who could resist?

[shawn703]

53. I don't think Prosser would have anything to fear from a recount

Isn't a recount just that - a recount of the same votes that were already counted? If there is election fraud and the same fraudulent votes are counted in the recount that were counted in the original count, it doesn't really help anyone.

Or will a recount be able to detect which votes are fraudulent and shouldn't be counted this time around? Seems to me what they really need is an investigation and a revote if fraud is found.